Nice touch by Gulfstream
 

Updating how many live Pick 6 tickets there are after each race. Takes a little bit of the guesswork out of figuring out if there'll be a carryover.

agreed :tro:

No reason all tracks can't do that. The wager is closed, so disclose what is happening throughout.

Kudos to GP.

How long before NYRA has this technology?

Ideally I'd like to see them be able to handle $.50 Pick 4s first.

Maybe by 2015.

You can tell after the eighth race by watching the will pays.

Right, and Gulfstream gives you an idea after every race as to what probability there is of a carryover. Can you see why that's not the same thing?

Its potentially a 2 hour difference.

I see no reason they cant give you the live tickets in pk3s and pk4s too. Just a little more trouble to keep the bettors informed and you know they are really concerned about the patrons that pay the bills. I know that this service want change the potential payout but it could help me structuring my other rolling pk3s.

Knowing how many people were alive after leg one of a pick 3 would be pretty useless.

useless in terms of customer convenience.

Far more valuable in terms of research.

Whether or not you may think its useless, NYRA and all other tracks too have no reason not to extend this sort of service to its customer. Its 2010, we have this technology available to us. Its not rocket science, its the age we now live in. I would find this information a lot more valuable and interesting than what I see coming from NYRA on Twitter.

Let's see...

The whole concept materialized approximately 17 hours ago and every track should have adopted it by now? Got it.

And the number of people alive in the P6 is more valuable information than Andy Serling delivering winners into your hand wherever you are with plenty of time to get bets in? Got it.

Do you really think NYRA doesn't want to make the existing customers experience better? Don't you think they want their product as good as it can possibly be? Seriously, IF they had money they would improve a lot of things. The issue is money, they don't have any! and are still playing Ping Pong with OTB, The State etc etc. IF things ever get sorted out and IF they get the model to work. I would bet on the current NYRA team to make it's racing the best in the sport.. I am sure they would love Trakus, HD, better betting Tech, I figure they would love to make the grounds (Belmont/Aqueduct) more fan friendly. It's just a simple matter of finding a financial platform that isnt on such crappy ground and all your wishes will come true. IMO

Not even the point..The point is if it costs money NYRA can't do it. The shame is the people are finally in place that care enough to make the racing great. NYRA has decent purses and fairly good racing especially considering trouble they are in.

I'm pretty sure Andy would be embarrassed by that comment.

this is kind of a branch off of the original post, but am i the only one who purposefully doesn't look at will pays?? i always felt like they would be a jinx to know what i would have won.

Jason

Wow, if you read my post I said NYRA on Twitter, not Serling on Twitter.

Go to the NYRA web site. The two are entirely different sites. I was speaking about the Twitter-NYRANews, not the Twitter-Serling.

And I was expressing an opinion that I would find it far more valuable to know up to the minute pick 6 information rather than news that you can easily get on the website that most bettors already know anyways.

I also think you guys are overestimating how much software like this would cost.

Sorry for having an opinion.

It wouldn't cost NYRA a nickel to allow .50 pic-4s on its own races or to allow NYRA Rewards players to make fractional wagers on simulcast tracks (such as Gulfstream, Keeneland, FG, etc.) where such denominations are permitted.

Opinions in sheep's clothing.

Isn't that a Racing and Wagering board issue?

Yes.

When NYRA did really suck I never remember them getting Sh.t ..Now that they have made great strides the get dogged ..I dont get it

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

I'm not anti-NYRA; I just don't understand their thinking on this issue.

Maybe since it wouldnt cost them a nickel they should allow nickel pick 4's?

Still need to have changes like that rubber-stamped by RWB. Though it seems it would be less of an issue now than it used to be...

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

Is that NYRA has made such a request of NYSWRB that has not been acted upon? Or is it that NYRA has made a business decision to not allow their patrons to make fractional wagers (except for the dime supers)?

good idea! i love that bet. i only go as far as pick 3's in ny. i've already hit a couple at gulfstream...and for 50 cents you can't beat the return. i'm starting to think its the best bet on the card!

Come on, that's a false argument. The issue for the typical player on these types of wagers is more about how much spread they can get from his or her bankroll. And by refusing to allow fractional wagers on simulcasts, NYRA is only driving that play elsewhere.

That's stupid. Why do they have dime supers then?

I think it's been discussed. I know they had to push for a while to get the dime supers through, as well as field size minimums in supers.

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

That's not the point, we'll cross that bridge if we come to it, but with damn near every track offering $.50 Pick 4s and their popularity increasing every day, NYRA looks like a dinosaur for not even handling them on simulcast tracks. I'm a big NYRA fan but on this issue it's silly how late they are.

i agree. i did not even like pick 4's, i do now. same with pick 6's, you might as well be playing the lotto, if you don't have partners. the 50 cent bet will raise the pools and handle. i think nyra is crazy to say, "we are hurting for money but a new product thats popular, well, we don't have time for it". those bets are bang for the buck, during tough times ...it will help them. during saratoga that 50 cent pick 4 would be a great bet.!!!!! look at what these things are paying at gulfstream!

I have my own personal axe to grind with the current NYRA regime and I'd love to blame them for any and all flaws in their product, but so many of their current flaws have to do with government involvement. . . I'm sure that's why they haven't offered $0.50 Pk4s. . . every little thing has to get past the wagering board.

The information regarding live tickets in P6 play is currently available on the tote system.

The New York State Racing & Wagering Board prohibits the dissemination of this information.

i know you are right, every good idea they have gets stonewalled...its kind of pathetic. anyone thats against term limits is nuts. alot of the states problems originate from albany...unfortunatly they have their crooked greedy hands tying up horse racing, constanly. people won't vote the clown out in their own district, so they stay forever and tighten the grip. alot of times i feel they WANT NYRA to fail! face it, the country is run by alot of senile, not so bright people that could not make it in the business world..thats why they are politicians and they stay as long as they can get away with it. my cat could probably make better decisions!