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Monarchos1 12-09-2009 02:18 PM

Gulfstream Simulcast Host
 
Anyone know who is going to be hosting the simulcast show from GP this winter? I heard Roly Hoyt is out and figure Ron Niccoletti must be too. I heard Caton Bredar's name mentioned but have seen nothing confirming that. I wish they would bring Jan Rushton out of semi-retirement as I believe her brother's situation is improving.

NTamm1215 12-09-2009 02:26 PM

I think it's going to be Coach Pants and myself before the day starts and between races and our third analyst will be RockHardTen1985 with all of DrugS statistics in tow.

NT

Bigsmc 12-09-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I think it's going to be Coach Pants and myself before the day starts and between races and our third analyst will be RockHardTen1985 with all of DrugS statistics in tow.

NT

:tro: :tro:

I'd watch.

Duvalier 12-09-2009 02:30 PM

Caton Bredar would be a good addition.

freddymo 12-09-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
Anyone know who is going to be hosting the simulcast show from GP this winter? I heard Roly Hoyt is out and figure Ron Niccoletti must be too. I heard Caton Bredar's name mentioned but have seen nothing confirming that. I wish they would bring Jan Rushton out of semi-retirement as I believe her brother's situation is improving.


I thought it was her Mother who was ill?

Monarchos1 12-09-2009 04:53 PM

My understanding is that the problem was with Rushton's brother and she is his primary caregiver. Regardless, she should be back in the game.

Kasept 12-09-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
My understanding is that the problem was with Rushton's brother and she is his primary caregiver. Regardless, she should be back in the game.

She 'should' be back... Why? To reiterate information that was apparant to any reader of the PP's? Or to tell players that a trainer told her they liked their chances? Jan Rushton is a wonderful person who had a nice career around racing. And she is selfless doing what she is for her brother who has ALS. But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider. If that's what you want in your handicapping/paddock hosts, fine, but I think the players are demanding more.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I think it's going to be Coach Pants and myself before the day starts and between races and our third analyst will be RockHardTen1985 with all of DrugS statistics in tow.

In a few years ... we might have the first of many sired by DrugS out of a full sister to RHT '85.

I am moving in rapidly on his sis.

NTamm1215 12-09-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
In a few years ... we might have the first of many sired by DrugS out of a full sister to RHT '85.

I am moving in rapidly on his sis.

Does RHT know your stud fee yet?

NT

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I think it's going to be Coach Pants and myself before the day starts and between races and our third analyst will be RockHardTen1985 with all of DrugS statistics in tow.

NT

Me, you and Drugs could take that thing over, I would be over 50%

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
In a few years ... we might have the first of many sired by DrugS out of a full sister to RHT '85.

I am moving in rapidly on his sis.

WOW, this is getting out of hand.

Monarchos1 12-09-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
She 'should' be back... Why? To reiterate information that was apparant to any reader of the PP's? Or to tell players that a trainer told her they liked their chances? Jan Rushton is a wonderful person who had a nice career around racing. And she is selfless doing what she is for her brother who has ALS. But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider. If that's what you want in your handicapping/paddock hosts, fine, but I think the players are demanding more.

I'd rather have her commentary and some insight than talking heads just rattling off their useless picks. I'd rather just have the track announcer feed than the vast majority of simulcasts hosts out there. Actually, I must say that Jill Byrne and Mark Johnson do a nice job together.

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I'd rather have her commentary and some insight than talking heads just rattling off their useless picks. I'd rather just have the track announcer feed than the vast majority of simulcasts hosts out there. Actually, I must say that Jill Byrne and Mark Johnson do a nice job together.

Whos useless picks are you talking about? Andy is really good if not the best, dont get me wrong I dont really listen and handicap for myself, but he is still the goods.

NTamm1215 12-09-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I'd rather have her commentary and some insight than talking heads just rattling off their useless picks. I'd rather just have the track announcer feed than the vast majority of simulcasts hosts out there. Actually, I must say that Jill Byrne and Mark Johnson do a nice job together.

What do Jill Byrne and Mark Johnson do that isn't rattle off picks?

I guess each person is looking for a different thing in these feeds but when I listen I'd like insight on that race by the person talking and that's EXACTLY what you get on the new NYRA feed.

NT

pweizer 12-09-2009 07:06 PM

NYRA is far and away the best, hands down. Nothing else is close.

Paul

RockHardTen1985 12-09-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer
NYRA is far and away the best, hands down. Nothing else is close.

Paul

I agree, not only Andy... Jason and Eric have both improved IMO, they have stepped there game up in Andys presence.

Kasept 12-09-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I'd rather have her commentary and some insight than talking heads just rattling off their useless picks. I'd rather just have the track announcer feed than the vast majority of simulcasts hosts out there. Actually, I must say that Jill Byrne and Mark Johnson do a nice job together.

Oh good... My first reaction was right. The thread-start was indeed simply a smokescreen to insult Serling/Donovan/Blewitt.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 07:38 PM

Jan Rushton?

I think this thread was started to insult the Beulah twins.

Left Bank 12-09-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Jan Rushton?

I think this thread was started to insult the Beulah twins.

Say,whatever happened to the Beulah twins,I never see them anymore.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 11:21 PM

I don't know ... but I think they might have become the first and second people in history who ever ate their way out of an on-air handicapping job.

I think they went on the Chris Lincoln and Tom Durkin diet.

chucklestheclown 12-10-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Oh good... My first reaction was right. The thread-start was indeed simply a smokescreen to insult Serling/Donovan/Blewitt.

:eek: Rushton was one of the best racing interviewers ever:{>:

chucklestheclown 12-10-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
She 'should' be back... Why? To reiterate information that was apparant to any reader of the PP's? Or to tell players that a trainer told her they liked their chances? Jan Rushton is a wonderful person who had a nice career around racing. And she is selfless doing what she is for her brother who has ALS. But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider. If that's what you want in your handicapping/paddock hosts, fine, but I think the players are demanding more.

What would you want her to do? If Bailey and everybody else "can't deliver" off their experience what standard are you holding her to?

Monarchos1 12-10-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Oh good... My first reaction was right. The thread-start was indeed simply a smokescreen to insult Serling/Donovan/Blewitt.

The thread was started to see if anyone knows who will be doing the GP show. Evidently no one on the forum has anything to contribute in that regard. I guess we'll find out January 3rd.

Coach Pants 12-10-2009 08:59 AM

Who is hosting the Daytime Emmy's?

Kasept 12-10-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
The thread was started to see if anyone knows who will be doing the GP show..

I doubt that, but I put a call in to get the answer just for you.

Travis Stone 12-10-2009 09:37 AM

The simulcast host concept is a wild frontier in many respects. There are a lot of things racetracks could be doing beyond two peeps sitting and talking about the race. Unfortunately, budgets and contracts with the video company are often limiting factors.

I agree with anyone who says the hosts have to provide insight... give me a potential pace scenario over reading the PPs all day long.

Monarchos1 12-10-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
I doubt that, but I put a call in to get the answer just for you.

Your post was the first in this thread that started with the hating (on Rushton), so you can blame yourself for the direction it took.

Immanuel Kant 12-10-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Jan Rushton?

I think this thread was started to insult the Beulah twins.


Ahem......My avatar USED to resemble that remark!

Kasept 12-10-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
Your post was the first in this thread that started with the hating (on Rushton), so you can blame yourself for the direction it took.

Got it... Factual presentations are 'hating on Rushton'.

Monarchos1 12-10-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Got it... Factual presentations are 'hating on Rushton'.

What's factual about this?

"But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider."

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-10-2009 02:31 PM

:tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I don't know ... but I think they might have become the first and second people in history who ever ate their way out of an on-air handicapping job.

I think they went on the Chris Lincoln and Tom Durkin diet.

:tro: :tro:

Kasept 12-10-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarchos1
What's factual about this?

"But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider."

It's a fact in its' entirety. All she did was regurgitate stats or minutia about what level a horse last raced, etc. She was supposed to be offering insight about physical appearance of runners based on whatever horsemanship knowledge she had. But she didn't do so nearly enough.

She never went out to observe workouts personally to be able to say with authority how a horse was coming into a race. It was all cosmetic. She was a pleasant, pretty face. A powder puff that added a softness to telecasts. Don't misunderstand me. I like Jan Rushton as much as anyone. She became an institution in New York. But she only was being tolerated in terms of her contributions to the raceday information.

Look, you think that Jan Rushton 'should' be on a racing telecast, and you're entitled to that opinion. But no one that seeks valuable information from raceday productions which will help them make money would get that from her.

Horseplayers say they want real customer service and tools delivered to them by the tracks that will enhance their wagering experience and MAKE THEM MONEY. Hard, cold facts regarding race shapes/pace, track trends, bad trips/good rides, declining/improving form, odds anomalies, trainer pattern/intent, et al, delivered authoritatively by people whose opinion has gravitas and WHO REALLY BET, is what paddock show telecasts demand now.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-10-2009 03:05 PM

her 'hats' made me a ton of cash..:rolleyes:

v j stauffer 12-10-2009 08:19 PM

A few years before I was named the announcer I got to work as the intertrack host just once at Gulfstream. Just happened to be a day that Cigar was running. Big fun!

freddymo 12-10-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
A few years before I was named the announcer I got to work as the intertrack host just once at Gulfstream. Just happened to be a day that Cigar was running. Big fun!

Should be BIG FUN calling races Saturday with 4 and 5 horses in them.. Vic you and your talented jock most be thrilled racing for 50% of the purses that Philly Park offer?

DaTruth 12-10-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
It's a fact in its' entirety. All she did was regurgitate stats or minutia about what level a horse last raced, etc. She was supposed to be offering insight about physical appearance of runners based on whatever horsemanship knowledge she had. But she didn't do so nearly enough.

She never went out to observe workouts personally to be able to say with authority how a horse was coming into a race. It was all cosmetic. She was a pleasant, pretty face. A powder puff that added a softness to telecasts. Don't misunderstand me. I like Jan Rushton as much as anyone. She became an institution in New York. But she only was being tolerated in terms of her contributions to the raceday information.

Look, you think that Jan Rushton 'should' be on a racing telecast, and you're entitled to that opinion. But no one that seeks valuable information from raceday productions which will help them make money would get that from her.

Horseplayers say they want real customer service and tools delivered to them by the tracks that will enhance their wagering experience and MAKE THEM MONEY. Hard, cold facts regarding race shapes/pace, track trends, bad trips/good rides, declining/improving form, odds anomalies, trainer pattern/intent, et al, delivered authoritatively by people whose opinion has gravitas and WHO REALLY BET, is what paddock show telecasts demand now.

Her "Closer Look" segments on Inside Racing weren't too great either.

v j stauffer 12-10-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Should be BIG FUN calling races Saturday with 4 and 5 horses in them.. Vic you and your talented jock most be thrilled racing for 50% of the purses that Philly Park offer?


Huh?

Monarchos1 12-11-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
It's a fact in its' entirety. All she did was regurgitate stats or minutia about what level a horse last raced, etc. She was supposed to be offering insight about physical appearance of runners based on whatever horsemanship knowledge she had. But she didn't do so nearly enough.

She never went out to observe workouts personally to be able to say with authority how a horse was coming into a race. It was all cosmetic. She was a pleasant, pretty face. A powder puff that added a softness to telecasts. Don't misunderstand me. I like Jan Rushton as much as anyone. She became an institution in New York. But she only was being tolerated in terms of her contributions to the raceday information.

Look, you think that Jan Rushton 'should' be on a racing telecast, and you're entitled to that opinion. But no one that seeks valuable information from raceday productions which will help them make money would get that from her.

Horseplayers say they want real customer service and tools delivered to them by the tracks that will enhance their wagering experience and MAKE THEM MONEY. Hard, cold facts regarding race shapes/pace, track trends, bad trips/good rides, declining/improving form, odds anomalies, trainer pattern/intent, et al, delivered authoritatively by people whose opinion has gravitas and WHO REALLY BET, is what paddock show telecasts demand now.


Fact: Jan Rushton worked for NYRA.

Opinion: "But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider."

Here's a link so you can understand the difference between facts and opinions: www.dictionary.com.

If you don't like Rushton's work, fine. But don't try to pass off your personal opinions as facts.

Coach Pants 12-11-2009 07:59 AM

Look...

if you miss her big hats you can always rent I'm Gonna Git You Sucka.


hoovesupsideyourhead 12-11-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarchos1
Fact: Jan Rushton worked for NYRA.

Opinion: "But she was a mannequin on broadcasts and even failed to truly deliver off her experience as a gallop rider."

Here's a link so you can understand the difference between facts and opinions: www.dictionary.com.

If you don't like Rushton's work, fine. But don't try to pass off your personal opinions as facts.

she never broke down a race in the way the new crew has done..she may have worked for nyra but as i stated she did not put the time into the handicapping aspects of her segment, the reason she was there.nyra has made a huge leap forward in this pre -race segment imo


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