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Cannon Shell 11-16-2009 02:27 PM

Get out says this guy
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/2009102...obamaresignnow

SOREHOOF 11-16-2009 02:37 PM

If Bush tried that the sh!t would really hit the fan. What happened to all the watchdogs on the left? Will you give up your Liberty to the Democrats, but not to the Republicans? Terrorists tried in civilian court while excuses are made for that poor soul who murdered 13 in Texas? I'm surprised the left hasn't gotten around to blaming the gun for the TERRORIST attack at Fort Hood.

Cannon Shell 11-16-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
If Bush tried that the sh!t would really hit the fan. What happened to all the watchdogs on the left? Will you give up your Liberty to the Democrats, but not to the Republicans? Terrorists tried in civilian court while excuses are made for that poor soul who murdered 13 in Texas? I'm surprised the left hasn't gotten around to blaming the gun for the TERRORIST attack at Fort Hood.

The guy who wrote it is a lefty.

I find it amusing when people try to say that the terror act at Ft Hood has anything to do with gun control laws. Last time I looked guns were kind of required at military bases.

SOREHOOF 11-16-2009 03:07 PM

I realize he's a lefty. Some liberals actually care about the Economy and National Security. I don't find it amusing shifting blame away from a cold blooded killer to a gun. Chuckie Schumer is complaining that the FBI was investigating this radical Islamist and he was still able to purchase a gun in August. Obama doesn't want a congressional investigation into this matter. His new national security policies might be questioned. Political correctness will get us all killed eventually.

brianwspencer 11-16-2009 03:31 PM

Seriously though, the majority of this argument is that he cannot support Obama because terror suspects, with or without evidence, can be held indefinitely without trial.

This is not news....at least not recent news.

randallscott35 11-16-2009 03:33 PM

My WW2 vet grandfather who is sharp as can be at 86 says if he was younger he would leave the U.S.

SOREHOOF 11-16-2009 03:37 PM

Threat of jail for not buying into the Govt. health plan and not carrying health insurance doesn't rile up the left. We must protect the rights of terror suspects though.

SOREHOOF 11-16-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
My WW2 vet grandfather who is sharp as can be at 86 says if he was younger he would leave the U.S.

Go where? Cuba? There is no place left to go. Freedom and Liberty must be defended here and now. From threats both foreign and DOMESTIC. Including, but not limited to, our Govt.

Riot 11-16-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Go where? Cuba? There is no place left to go. Freedom and Liberty must be defended here and now. From threats both foreign and DOMESTIC. Including, but not limited to, our Govt.

So the creation of the Department of Homeland Security must have really scared you?

Nascar1966 11-16-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
My WW2 vet grandfather who is sharp as can be at 86 says if he was younger he would leave the U.S.


Its getting to the point where it is embarassing to say your from America.

Riot 11-16-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Threat of jail for not buying into the Govt. health plan and not carrying health insurance doesn't rile up the left. We must protect the rights of terror suspects though.

That's because it only exists in some folks imagination.

Meanwhile, the threat of us going to jail for not carrying car insurance is, alas, very real.

I'm sure Hasan in Texas will suitably fry in the electric chair of the most aggressive death-penalty state of the union. Whoops, no, he'll be tried in military court. Firing squad? What does our military use?

I am reminded of the brilliant mathematician John Nash, the paranoid schizophrenic made generally famous by the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". His fear of government plot, top-secret activity, and Russian threat; his imagining he was working for the CIA, etc. If Nash was experiencing that today, instead of his converting his office and a garage into a demonstration of his paranoid schizophenrenia (his cutouts, charts, etc) - he'd have an internet webpage and a few thousands "followers".

Riot 11-16-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Its getting to the point where it is embarassing to say your from America.

Not for we Americans.

You don't like it, leave.

timmgirvan 11-16-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Not for we Americans.

You don't like it, leave.

I'm impressed,Riot!

SOREHOOF 11-17-2009 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
That's because it only exists in some folks imagination.

Meanwhile, the threat of us going to jail for not carrying car insurance is, alas, very real.

I'm sure Hasan in Texas will suitably fry in the electric chair of the most aggressive death-penalty state of the union. Whoops, no, he'll be tried in military court. Firing squad? What does our military use?

I am reminded of the brilliant mathematician John Nash, the paranoid schizophrenic made generally famous by the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". His fear of government plot, top-secret activity, and Russian threat; his imagining he was working for the CIA, etc. If Nash was experiencing that today, instead of his converting his office and a garage into a demonstration of his paranoid schizophenrenia (his cutouts, charts, etc) - he'd have an internet webpage and a few thousands "followers".

Pelosi admitted it. Her Imagination too? Car Insurance? please , You are not required by the govt. to drive a car so you don't HAVE to have car insurance

SOREHOOF 11-17-2009 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
So the creation of the Department of Homeland Security must have really scared you?

Nope. Eric Holder as AG does a little though.

Danzig 11-17-2009 06:48 AM

a somali child??

yeah, i know there are other things he put in there that could use some serious examination, but he makes that criminal sound like he's six years old.

Danzig 11-17-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
That's because it only exists in some folks imagination.

Meanwhile, the threat of us going to jail for not carrying car insurance is, alas, very real.

I'm sure Hasan in Texas will suitably fry in the electric chair of the most aggressive death-penalty state of the union. Whoops, no, he'll be tried in military court. Firing squad? What does our military use?

I am reminded of the brilliant mathematician John Nash, the paranoid schizophrenic made generally famous by the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". His fear of government plot, top-secret activity, and Russian threat; his imagining he was working for the CIA, etc. If Nash was experiencing that today, instead of his converting his office and a garage into a demonstration of his paranoid schizophenrenia (his cutouts, charts, etc) - he'd have an internet webpage and a few thousands "followers".



the death penalty is one that can be issued by the military. it's still on the books.

Danzig 11-17-2009 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Not for we Americans.

You don't like it, leave.


that response always makes me shake my head. i criticize the govt at times, but would never want to leave. just like my husband i don't alway see eye to eye, but divorce is absolutely not on the table. i criticize things at work, but i remain there as well.

brianwspencer 11-17-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Its getting to the point where it is embarassing to say your from America.

If we didn't get there after a President being an idiot got caught having sex in the Oval Office and still didn't get there after having the most embarrassing, pompous gasbag in office for eight years after that, I'm pretty sure we'll never get there.

Says significantly more about you than it does about America.

dellinger63 11-17-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I'm sure Hasan in Texas will suitably fry in the electric chair of the most aggressive death-penalty state of the union. Whoops, no, he'll be tried in military court. Firing squad? What does our military use?

Hasan will be tried in military court, found guilty and his paralyzed a$$ will be 'allowed' to lay for hours on end in his own crap because the military will be his guards, caretakers etc. More importantly his fellow prisoners will be military so he won't be allowed the privilege or refuge of being protected and nurtured like a 'pet' with the muslim population found in any State prison. I imagine eventually someone on the left will fight the death penalty w/some off-the-wall argument like he can't stand up to face the firing squad. :zz:

Nascar1966 11-17-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Not for we Americans.

You don't like it, leave.


If I could I would think about and come back when O'Dumbass is out of office.

Nascar1966 11-17-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
That's because it only exists in some folks imagination.

Meanwhile, the threat of us going to jail for not carrying car insurance is, alas, very real.

I'm sure Hasan in Texas will suitably fry in the electric chair of the most aggressive death-penalty state of the union. Whoops, no, he'll be tried in military court. Firing squad? What does our military use?

I am reminded of the brilliant mathematician John Nash, the paranoid schizophrenic made generally famous by the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". His fear of government plot, top-secret activity, and Russian threat; his imagining he was working for the CIA, etc. If Nash was experiencing that today, instead of his converting his office and a garage into a demonstration of his paranoid schizophenrenia (his cutouts, charts, etc) - he'd have an internet webpage and a few thousands "followers".


Giving the bastard Hasan the chair would be too good for him. Let one the relatives of the innocent victims that he killed shot him to death.

brianwspencer 11-17-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I imagine eventually someone on the left will fight the death penalty w/some off-the-wall argument like he can't stand up to face the firing squad. :zz:

I'll just stick the the off the wall argument that it's just wrong to do and that's why we shouldn't do it :D

dellinger63 11-17-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I'll just stick the the off the wall argument that it's just wrong to do and that's why we shouldn't do it :D

I knew I could count on you!

Truthfully in this particular case I'm on your side but for the reason death would be a lesser punishment than facing life as a paraplegic with lets just say less than perfect care.

brianwspencer 11-17-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I knew I could count on you!

Truthfully in this particular case I'm on your side but for the reason death would be a lesser punishment than facing life as a paraplegic with lets just say less than perfect care.

Ha.

That's one issue where for me there is no black and white, no ifs or maybes - no condition under which I think it's okay.

Antitrust32 11-17-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Ha.

That's one issue where for me there is no black and white, no ifs or maybes - no condition under which I think it's okay.


lol

I'm the complete opposite. I'm barbaric and feel that rapist and child molesters should be executed (in almost all circumstances). That mormon guy who just got convicted of child rape should be hanged. Also anyone convicted of 1st degree murder should be executed. And it should happen fairly quickly.

Methinks if that was the way of the law there would be much less violent crime.

brianwspencer 11-17-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I'm barbaric

Lol.

Nascar1966 11-17-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
lol

I'm the complete opposite. I'm barbaric and feel that rapist and child molesters should be executed (in almost all circumstances). That mormon guy who just got convicted of child rape should be hanged. Also anyone convicted of 1st degree murder should be executed. And it should happen fairly quickly.

Methinks if that was the way of the law there would be much less violent crime.


I agree with you %1000 on this. Why should us taxpayers support thugs like that who have no regard for thier fellow human beings.

Riot 11-17-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that response always makes me shake my head. i criticize the govt at times, but would never want to leave. just like my husband i don't alway see eye to eye, but divorce is absolutely not on the table. i criticize things at work, but i remain there as well.

The "embarassed to be an American" part makes me shake my head. You're embarassed by this country, yeah, go elsewhere.

Coach Pants 11-17-2009 02:14 PM

I'm embarrassed of America because Riot is an American.

Riot 11-17-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Pelosi admitted it. Her Imagination too? Car Insurance? please , You are not required by the govt. to drive a car so you don't HAVE to have car insurance

Quote for us the section in any of the healthcare reform bills from the House or in the Senate where there exists, "the threat of jail for not buying into the government health plan and not carrying health insurance"?

Riot 11-17-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm embarrassed of America because Riot is an American.

LOL - believe me, that's not what causes an association between you and embarassment on this website.

Riot 11-17-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
the death penalty is one that can be issued by the military. it's still on the books.

Yes, I'm aware - but what are the ways the military can put someone to death?

dellinger63 11-17-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, I'm aware - but what are the ways the military can put someone to death?

Lethal Injection. 8 on death row at Leavenworth last execution in the early 1960's. This guy will have plenty of time to sit in his stool

Riot 11-17-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Lethal Injection. 8 on death row at Leavenworth last execution in the early 1960's. This guy will have plenty of time to sit in his stool

I can kill things gently and painlessly by lethal injection easily and cheaply. I'm amazed humans can't seem to manage it.

Frankly, I think Hasan deserves the firing squad. You get what you give.

alysheba4 11-17-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
If I could I would think about and come back when O'Dumbass is out of office.

......dont worry, he is one and done. bringing the masterminds behind 9/11 into new york city for a NON military trial........wow, just when you thought this dipshit couldnt be anymore fuc&ed up. SURPISE.

SOREHOOF 11-17-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Quote for us the section in any of the healthcare reform bills from the House or in the Senate where there exists, "the threat of jail for not buying into the government health plan and not carrying health insurance"?

Since I don't have... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32ck...eature=related I'll let the smartest woman in California answer that for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUkzV8h3Wp0 I'll just take that as a yes. Is this what you are asking for?http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...ry=pelosi+jail It's there, you wont hear about it on the Hufffnpufffington Post.

SOREHOOF 11-17-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, I'm aware - but what are the ways the military can put someone to death?

He should be choked almost to death with a pork chop. Then set on fire.

Riot 11-17-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Since I don't have... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32ck...eature=related I'll let the smartest woman in California answer that for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUkzV8h3Wp0 I'll just take that as a yes.

You can't do it, huh?

Riot 11-17-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
......dont worry, he is one and done. bringing the masterminds behind 9/11 into new york city for a NON military trial........wow, just when you thought this dipshit couldnt be anymore fuc&ed up. SURPISE.


You mean as fuc&ed up as Bush was, when Bush did the same thing?


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