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Riot 07-03-2009 02:43 PM

Sarah Palin resigns
 
Happy Fourth of July, Alaska! Palin resigns!

Will she pursue Presidency 100%? Who knows, after all the nasty "what McCain campaign workers said" stuff this week.

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 02:49 PM

I don't get it. I can understand not seeking a second term but why not finish this one out? I think that will be used against her in the primaries.

So she's going to try and run for President on 2.5 years as Governor of Alaska and time as Mayor of Wasila? Isn't she going to get killed by the whole lack of experience argument? Obama was besieged by it and he had 8 years as a state legislator and 4 years in the Senate.

pgardn 07-03-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I don't get it. I can understand not seeking a second term but why not finish this one out? I think that will be used against her in the primaries.

So she's going to try and run for President on 2.5 years as Governor of Alaska and time as Mayor of Wasila? Isn't she going to get killed by the whole lack of experience argument? Obama was besieged by it and he had 8 years as a state legislator and 4 years in the Senate.

Exactly.
Something else is up.
She may just be tired of all the crap.

“We know we can effect positive change outside of government,” she said in making the announcement.

gales0678 07-03-2009 03:24 PM

it ain't going to happen

Jeb Bush is the only one who can win the presidency in '12 on the republican side right now

He is the only proven republican that can get the key swing votes and hispanic votes .

What other Republican starts with Florida in their pocket as an automatic - none that i can think of. The 2 southern states that went for Obama can eaisly go back to Bush in '12 - ask gpk

That leaves a Obama / Bush fight over the usual suspects - ohio , pa , indiana , michigan , wisc , neveda , new mexico and possible NH

Scott - tell me why bush can't win if he can win back fl , nc and va and then grab back a few of the other states i mentioned.

What state did mccain take that jeb bush wouldn't win ---- i don't see any

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
it ain't going to happen

Jeb Bush is the only one who can win the presidency in '12 on the republican side right now

He is the only proven republican that can get the key swing votes and hispanic votes .

What other Republican starts with Florida in their pocket as an automatic - none that i can think of. The 2 southern states that went for Obama can eaisly go back to Bush in '12 - ask gpk

That leaves a Obama / Bush fight over the usual suspects - ohio , pa , indiana , michigan , wisc , neveda , new mexico and possible NH

Scott - tell me why bush can't win if he can win back fl , nc and va and then grab back a few of the other states i mentioned.

What state did mccain take that jeb bush wouldn't win ---- i don't see any

There is zero chance of Jeb Bush in 2012. He would get crushed in every state you mentioned as the usual suspects and would probably lose Missouri as well. It is very questionable whether he would take back Virginia and questionable as to taking back North Carolina. Even states like Montana, Arizona, and the Dakotas would become tossup states.

It would also have the residual effect of costing the Republicans seats in the house and senate by reassociating the party with the name Bush.

Riot 07-03-2009 03:28 PM

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Todd Palin told FOX News that his wife will concentrate on "doing the things for Alaska and the country" that she is passionate about and can not do as governor with the limitation and constant opposition she deals with within the state.
LOL. Poor thing. She makes a great victim.

Guess if she can't handle the "limitation and constant opposition" of Alaska, she'd be eaten alive in Washington D.C.

Edit: I was thinking she might try and become a Washington lobbiest, but probably she'll just try and incite crowds to riot over issues close to her heart.

We need to make an odds line on how quickly the rest of the GOP distances themselves from her.

gales0678 07-03-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
There is zero chance of Jeb Bush in 2012. He would get crushed in every state you mentioned as the usual suspects and would probably lose Missouri as well. It is very questionable whether he would take back Virginia and questionable as to taking back North Carolina. Even states like Montana, Arizona, and the Dakotas would become tossup states.


why , why can't he win those states there is a growing hispanic population there , what other republican has shown he can get a majority hispanic vote in a state like florida

certainly no one in NY ever has

Obama is far from a lock in va and nc - bush can beat him ther , he is going to beat him in Florida , if he locks up the south and people in the mid-west continue not to get any jobs , ohio and indiana and even mich and wis can go back to the red color

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
LOL. Poor thing. She makes a great victim.

Guess if she can't handle the "limitation and constant opposition" of Alaska, she'd be eaten alive in Washington D.C.

Yeah, this is political suicide. A shame too cause neither her nor Huckabee have any chance in the general election but could win the Republican primary. Now the GOP might actually have a candidate with a chance come through.

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
why , why can't he win those states there is a growing hispanic population there , what other republican has shown he can get a majority hispanic vote in a state like florida

certainly no one in NY ever has

Obama is far from a lock in va and nc - bush can beat him ther , he is going to beat him in Florida , if he locks up the south and people in the mid-west continue not to get any jobs , ohio and indiana and even mich and wis can go back to the red color

You are living in a fantasy world. Just being named Bush is the equivalent of disappearing from your job to disappear to Argentina where you cheat on your wife by taking part in a giant homosexual orgy while all four of your teenage daughters get knocked up at home and have late term abortions.

gales0678 07-03-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You are living in a fantasy world. Just being named Bush is the equivalent of disappearing from your job to disappear to Argentina where you cheat on your wife by taking part in a giant homosexual orgy while all four of your teenage daughters get knocked up at home and have late term abortions.


that maybe today , but, in 4 yrs time the we could be in a worse situation than when bush left office , things could actually be a lot worse


things turn in politics very quickly .... obama is no mortal lock in '12


he's got a long road ahead of him and if people don't have jobs , and can't pay their bills and taxes go up on all fronts he is very very beatable...you are living in a fantasy world if you think he is not beatable in '12

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
that maybe today , but, in 4 yrs time the we could be in a worse situation than when bush left office , things could actually be a lot worse


things turn in politics very quickly .... obama is no mortal lock in '12


he's got a long road ahead of him and if people don't have jobs , and can't pay their bills and taxes go up on all fronts he is very very beatable...you are living in a fantasy world if you think he is not beatable in '12

He's not beatable by Jeb Bush, he's not beatable by Sarah Palin, and he's not beatable by Mike Huckabee. If the economy is still bad then he is beatable by Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.

gales0678 07-03-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
He's not beatable by Jeb Bush, he's not beatable by Sarah Palin, and he's not beatable by Mike Huckabee. If the economy is still bad then he is beatable by Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.


bush can beat him under the right circumstance

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
bush can beat him under the right circumstance

Congratulations on being the only person in America (including Jeb Bush) that believes this.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-03-2009 03:45 PM

She's breathing quite heavily. Could be normal for her(don't care enough to check.) For all I care, the btch can go fetch.

Riot 07-03-2009 03:46 PM

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"We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that," said John Weaver, a longtime friend and confidant of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the party's presidential nominee in 2008 whose of selection of Palin catapulted the first-term Alaska governor to national prominence.
And the GOP starts to eat it's own young.

gales0678 07-03-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Congratulations on being the only person in America (including Jeb Bush) that believes this.


listen, not many people gave obama a chance in the begining , hillary was a mortal lock in the summer of '07 ... what happened to her? s**t happens people go down

if obama is a train wreck it's over on '12 , heck GH Bush could come back at 86 and beat him

SniperSB23 07-03-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
listen, not many people gave obama a chance in the begining , hillary was a mortal lock in the summer of '07 ... what happened to her? s**t happens people go down

if obama is a train wreck it's over on '12 , heck GH Bush could come back at 86 and beat him

An unknown Republican that people aren't giving much credibility to right now might have a shot. That person is not Jeb Bush.

Most recent poll:
Huckabee - 22%
Palin - 21%
Romney - 21%
Gingrich - 13%
Bush - 6%

pgardn 07-03-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
if obama is a train wreck it's over on '12 , heck GH Bush could come back at 86 and beat him

I agree.
Those working states that Obama got will not vote for
him again with 10% unemployment. A Republican could
easily take Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and on...

If the economy had not cratered, John McCain would
be our president imo. Iraq had definitely gotten
better. The surge worked.

Coach Pants 07-03-2009 04:18 PM


dalakhani 07-03-2009 05:09 PM

Awfully hasty.

Maybe there is something to Letterman's joke.

pgardn 07-03-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Awfully hasty.

Maybe there is something to Letterman's joke.

The way Republicans have already
beat up on Powell I dont think they
would want him even if he could win.


I got the impression Republicans do not
consider him a Republican, the great party
of inclusion that it is.

Riot 07-03-2009 06:17 PM

Palin is deep in debt, alot from the ethics violation charges. I wouldn't doubt she quit just so she could go on tour and promote the book she has coming out.

hi_im_god 07-03-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
And the GOP starts to eat it's own young.

devouring this deep thinker might actually raise the overall i.q. of the party.

for the life of me i could never figure out her appeal to conservatives. if you're a republican, imagine how you'd feel about democrats getting all giddy over paula abdul as a serious spokesperson for their idea's.

it's been a weird delight. and i'll miss her for the easy comedy. but it'll be nice to see those folks taking it seriously at last.

dellinger63 07-04-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Palin is deep in debt, alot from the ethics violation charges. I wouldn't doubt she quit just so she could go on tour and promote the book she has coming out.

tell me, just how much she was fined? Link please? Also I find it facinating that only dems seem interested in keeping Palin in the spotligt while zero percent of repubs consider her any type of spokeswoman as demonstrated by recent polls.

geeker2 07-04-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
tell me, just how much she was fined? Link please? Also I find it facinating that only dems seem interested in keeping Palin in the spotligt while zero percent of repubs consider her any type of spokeswoman as demonstrated by recent polls.


Instead of resigning without a real reason she should have had an affair with one of the Ice Road Truckers.

That is the politically correct way to exit office these days.


But Del I think you have it right - majority of REP's don't really support her, but the DEM's seem to want to keep the discussion alive....

dalakhani 07-04-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Instead of resigning without a real reason she should have had an affair with one of the Ice Road Truckers.

That is the politically correct way to exit office these days.


But Del I think you have it right - majority of REP's don't really support her, but the DEM's seem to want to keep the discussion alive....

Do you mean republicans in office or do you mean republican voters?

geeker2 07-04-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Do you mean republicans in office or do you mean republican voters?


I was think of party support...

dalakhani 07-04-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
I was think of party support...

It certainly seems divided to me. She definitely has her share of supporters within the party.

geeker2 07-04-2009 09:47 AM

It's a long road to 2012....by then the country might realize we need BYK in 2012!

SniperSB23 07-04-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
tell me, just how much she was fined? Link please? Also I find it facinating that only dems seem interested in keeping Palin in the spotligt while zero percent of repubs consider her any type of spokeswoman as demonstrated by recent polls.

Of course Dems want to keep her in the spotlight. You are wrong though that Dems are the only ones. Look at the poll I posted earlier, it is a three way dead heat right now for the Republican nomination and she's right in the thick of things. Yes, only 1% or less consider her the spokeswoman of the party but that is meaningless in terms of getting elected since 52% identified nobody as the speaker of the Republican party and of the top five (Rush, Cheney, McCain, Gingrich, and Bush) only one may be running for the Presidency. And Bush was at 3% so that means anyone else that will be running for the Presidency (aside from Newt) isn't viewed as the spokesperson for the party either.

SniperSB23 07-04-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
tell me, just how much she was fined? Link please?

At the end of this article it says she's racked up over $500,000 in legal fees.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090704/...alin_resigning

Riot 07-04-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
tell me, just how much she was fined? Link please? Also I find it facinating that only dems seem interested in keeping Palin in the spotligt while zero percent of repubs consider her any type of spokeswoman as demonstrated by recent polls.

Link? Palin talking in her resignation speech. She's half a million in personal debt - not from fines - from fighting the charges.

This woman is not very bright, has little to no understanding of national issues, hasn't done diddley in Alaska or Wasilla, plays politics like a jealous junior-high school girl, and quits when she's unhappy. And can't string a coherent sentence together.

Her perfect fit: financially, mentally, capability, ego-wise - is a show on Fox News, rousing up the rabble. And promoting her book <g>

timmgirvan 07-04-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
It's a long road to 2012....by then the country might realize we need BYK in 2012!

I've maintained this position from the start!:D

pgardn 07-04-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
for the life of me i could never figure out her appeal to conservatives. if you're a republican, imagine how you'd feel about democrats getting all giddy over paula abdul as a serious spokesperson for their idea's.

She has unlimited ability in making
weighty decisions on complex issues?

OK, would ya believe to balance out the Loch Nessy
that is Nancy Pelosi...

SCUDSBROTHER 07-04-2009 05:03 PM

".....the world needs more Trigs, not fewer." http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/archive...Cricket/205888


What a gem dandy.

dellinger63 07-05-2009 08:14 AM

we've gone through this before but I missed seeing Palin in this poll for spokesman of the Republican party.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120806/li...aking-gop.aspx

dellinger63 07-05-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Link? Palin talking in her resignation speech. She's half a million in personal debt - not from fines - from fighting the charges.

This woman is not very bright, has little to no understanding of national issues, hasn't done diddley in Alaska or Wasilla, plays politics like a jealous junior-high school girl, and quits when she's unhappy. And can't string a coherent sentence together.

Her perfect fit: financially, mentally, capability, ego-wise - is a show on Fox News, rousing up the rabble. And promoting her book <g>

You're right she is no Jimmy Carter and doesn't have that deep understanding of the mid east like he does that leads to the conclusion Israel is 'the worse perpetrator of human right violations on the planet worse even than Rwanda. Guess I missed the Palestinians running around with lit gasoline tires around their necks and families being killed w/machetes

GBBob 07-05-2009 08:39 AM

Asked if he was referring to Al Franken as the clown from Minnesota, Inhofe confirmed he was.

“I didn’t mean to be disrespectful. I don’t know the guy, but … for a living he is a clown,’’ the senator said.


Man Dell..now you are using Inhofe in your sig line? What...Jesse Helms wasn't available...

dellinger63 07-05-2009 09:28 AM

it was between Inhofe and Riot but after seeing Timmy Thorton's g/f react the way she did to those jock midgets yesterday I went w/the clown theme. How was Francesca's?

Smooth Operator 07-05-2009 05:48 PM

LOL


What a twit




Cons "Gone Wild"





What's gunna happen this week ... Newt getting busted in an Amsterdam red-light district? lol


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