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dalakhani 06-13-2009 06:54 AM

The Great Republican Hope
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iYOTVWnl4

Sarah Palin is better than any commercial the democrats could come up with not to mention its free. Did any of you see this interview?

This is the problem with the Republican party. Right here. Not Sarah Palin herself...she is just a symptom.

My republican friends on here-Are you really serious about having this human be the face of your party?

dellinger63 06-13-2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iYOTVWnl4

Sarah Palin is better than any commercial the democrats could come up with not to mention its free. Did any of you see this interview?

This is the problem with the Republican party. Right here. Not Sarah Palin herself...she is just a symptom.

My republican friends on here-Are you really serious about having this human be the face of your party?

she is your, the media and most Democrats face of the Republican Party much in the same way Al Sharpton is the face of the Democrat party as I and other pacaderms see it.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
she is your, the media and most Democrats face of the Republican Party much in the same way Al Sharpton is the face of the Democrat party as I and other pacaderms see it.

LOL Al Sharpton wasnt on the presidential ticket.:D

dellinger63 06-13-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL Al Sharpton wasnt on the presidential ticket.:D


OK sub the Rev. Baby 'King of Budweiser' Daddy. They're pretty much interchangable :p

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iYOTVWnl4

Sarah Palin is better than any commercial the democrats could come up with not to mention its free. Did any of you see this interview?

This is the problem with the Republican party. Right here. Not Sarah Palin herself...she is just a symptom.

My republican friends on here-Are you really serious about having this human be the face of your party?


Just keep giving that nut a mic. She's so concerned about these girls she named after trees n' planes? Really? How did these kids find out that brother Trig's face had special needs?.....They looked at him. That's how they had to find out.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 08:21 AM

At least the republicans on this site have long given up the futile efforts to rally around Sarah and promote her as viable.

The sad part is that their is not a single person that Republicans CAN promote.

Right now it is a steel cage match between Newt, dick, rush and sarah.

dellinger63 06-13-2009 08:29 AM

3 yrs ago no one outside of IL knew who Obama was. Maybe some remember a convention speech.

Trouble is here in IL we knew who he was and the people he surrounded himself with. Of course those guys now are either being quiet, are spewing anti semetic nonsense or are locked up in Federal Custody.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 08:41 AM

But Dellinger, your post here and every other post you make does nothing but cast a big shining light on my original point. Your only answer these days is to talk about reverends and witch doctors, etc. That is the problem with the republican party.

If Pepsi wants to sell drinks, it has to show why it is the best drink and make people feel like drinking it is better than drinking any other drink on the planet and we will like what are drinking. Right now, The republican message is simply that coke tastes bad and we shoud drink pepsi or we are doomed.

What is the republican message? Who is delivering it?

You can't answer that question and none of your brethren can either. And until you can, the party will remain dysfunctional.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
3 yrs ago no one outside of IL knew who Obama was. Maybe some remember a convention speech.

Trouble is here in IL we knew who he was and the people he surrounded himself with. Of course those guys now are either being quiet, are spewing anti semetic nonsense or are locked up in Federal Custody.

ummm...it was over 4 years ago that Obama spoke at the DNC. LOL

dellinger63 06-13-2009 08:51 AM

c'mon who was the speaker for the Dems prior to Obama? The Clintons? The guy ran against a lame duck candidate with his biggest premise Oh I mean promise being HOPE whatever that is. When we dance again I think 'it's the economy stupid' saying may come out again only it will be coming from us. But until then I'll live as a socialist.

Just wish we could make our checks to the IRS in the amount of HOPE.

dellinger63 06-13-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
ummm...it was over 4 years ago that Obama spoke at the DNC. LOL

most people on the street couldn't identify a picture of Biden or Chaney so how many remember the speech? And I meant most people as in 'some people' remember the DNC speech, which I know was more than 3 yrs ago. That's why I said it.......

dalakhani 06-13-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
most people on the street couldn't identify a picture of Biden or Chaney so how many remember the speech? And I meant most people as in 'some people' remember the DNC speech, which I know was more than 3 yrs ago. That's why I said it.......

That speech energized the democrats and gave a huge boost going into the next election. He was their star in the making and if it wasnt going to be 2008, it was obvious that somewhere along the way Obama would be a big voice in the party.

Where is that Republican voice?

dellinger63 06-13-2009 09:05 AM

In my head

dellinger63 06-13-2009 09:06 AM

and why are you so concerned about the Rep. voice?

dalakhani 06-13-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
In my head

:) Dell, we are the polar opposite on views but i really like you and your dog is adorable!

Cheers!

dellinger63 06-13-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
:) Dell, we are the polar opposite on views but i really like you and your dog is adorable!

Cheers!

Thanks and Good Luck if you're playing today. By the way the dog has a great name, Puddinhead.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Thanks and Good Luck if you're playing today. By the way the dog has a great name, Puddinhead.

Jack Russell?

dellinger63 06-13-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Jack Russell?

No Corgi love showing him off

and he can swim


but mostly




Riot 06-13-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
At least the republicans on this site have long given up the futile efforts to rally around Sarah and promote her as viable.

The sad part is that their is not a single person that Republicans CAN promote.

Right now it is a steel cage match between Newt, dick, rush and sarah.

Here's an interesting, hopeful article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...d=bs:archive15

I agree, the GOP needs to start looking for leaders among strong, respected intellectuals and people with deep policy strengths.

Sarah Palin and her ilk are only useful for firing up and creating ignorant but angry mobs. Not what's needed in politics. Her ridiculous "rise up!" call to people over David Letterman has sealed her fate as never-ready-for-prime-time-voice in the GOP.

The GOP can reinvent itself by adhering, not to guns and religion, but to ideas.

Riot 06-13-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
c'mon who was the speaker for the Dems prior to Obama? The Clintons? The guy ran against a lame duck candidate with his biggest premise Oh I mean promise being HOPE whatever that is. When we dance again I think 'it's the economy stupid' saying may come out again only it will be coming from us. But until then I'll live as a socialist.

Just wish we could make our checks to the IRS in the amount of HOPE.

Bush ran the first time on "change and hope"

Danzig 06-13-2009 11:43 AM

if sarah palin is the future of the rep party, it should dismantle today. hell, they may as well trot out dan quayle while they're at it. :rolleyes:

it seems right now that the face of the party is a whacky triumvirate of old men, ultra-right religious zealots, and the female equivalent of george bush. that's what palin is, really-the intelligence of george bush in an attractive package.

Riot 06-13-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
if sarah palin is the future of the rep party, it should dismantle today. hell, they may as well trot out dan quayle while they're at it. :rolleyes:

it seems right now that the face of the party is a whacky triumvirate of old men, ultra-right religious zealots, and the female equivalent of george bush. that's what palin is, really-the intelligence of george bush in an attractive package.

Sarah Palin isn't as smart as George Bush :eek:

I like McKinnon's political blog, I think he has good ideas. Here's another, "The Next Republican President"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...sa:moreauthor1

Danzig 06-13-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Sarah Palin isn't as smart as George Bush :eek:

I like McKinnon's political blog, I think he has good ideas. Here's another, "The Next Republican President"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...sa:moreauthor1


i'm not impressed with the thought processes of either one of them, hence my comparison.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 12:42 PM

I think the majority of Americans back OBAMA's ideas on the big issues we face. That's not the same as being willing to pay for those ideas to be put into action. Realistically, I think people want to share the risk to make sure they aren't the ones who are financially devastated by a one-time health care nightmare. A lot of people who think they have health care insurance do go on to get financially devastated when their insurance has capped limits, or whatever. People want something done about that. I don't think most want all Americans to have access to good health care. I think they want all Americans to have access to emergency health care. Americans like to have people below themselves. There is no "look out for other members of the race" thinking that is present in the countries that are mainly made up of one ethnic group. So, I do see the country going back the other way. I think he will serve 2 terms(if he isn't shot or crippled by white trash,) but I think he will have lost control of both the Senate n' House when he leaves.

Coach Pants 06-13-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I think the majority of Americans back OBAMA's ideas on the big issues we face. That's not the same as being willing to pay for those ideas to be put into action. Realistically, I think people want to share the risk to make sure they aren't the ones who are financially devastated by a one-time health care nightmare. A lot of people who think they have health care insurance do go on to get financially devastated when their insurance has capped limits, or whatever. People want something done about that. I don't think most want all Americans to have access to good health care. I think they want all Americans to have access to emergency health care. Americans like to have people below themselves. There is no "look out for other members of the race" thinking that is present in the countries that are mainly made up of one ethnic group. So, I do see the country going back the other way. I think he will serve 2 terms(if he isn't shot or crippled by white trash,) but I think he will have lost control of both the Senate n' House when he leaves.

Emergency health care? Oh you mean the kind where hypochondriacs abuse on an epic scale? Yeah lets expand health care to all hypochondriacs...not just the ones on medicaid.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 01:17 PM

I love the part of that interview where she says "....The candidate who must be obeyed......"

Smooth Operator 06-13-2009 01:34 PM

Cons soooooooooo deserve to be in this predicament after giving us eight years of that village idiot from TX...

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Emergency health care? Oh you mean the kind where hypochondriacs abuse on an epic scale? Yeah lets expand health care to all hypochondriacs...not just the ones on medicaid.

Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

NTamm1215 06-13-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

Cannon Shell 06-13-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

Hell bankers make a whole lot more money than Doctors and arent nearly as smart or dedicated. Of course under the Obama plan neither of them will make any money.

docicu3 06-13-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

For years now on here I have seen this offensive tirade of yours demean my profession because you are not getting what you are convinced you deserve.

As you continue to blame ever physician that has had the misfortune of treating you for the imperfections of how you feel, you continue to insult every caregivers motivations, compensation and morals because you don't feel like you have enough energy, are happy enough, sleep soundly to your satisfaction or carry the physical strength you are convinced you are guaranteed in this life.

Well......

After growing up in a ghetto that promised and gave nothing but heartache as the product of public education that allowed me the opportunity after high school to borrow and pay back over 20 years 250K at 18% (Regan) for the purpose of paying for my own medical education. This allowed me to donate 6 more years of my life to acquire the experience and training to see my first patient 10 years after college if I could pass the rigorous testing for board certification. So after making the largest wager I will ever make on my own education I am able to finally charge for my services.

And yes, over the next 20 years I have given away tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in services I have never tried to collect for patients who needed my services but couldn't afford to pay any bill no matter how small. But at no time in 20 years, during a patient contact have I experienced such a disgusting, never ending display of greed and lack of gratitude for the efforts of the physicians who have tried to help you with your every vague subjective complaint.

Nothing will ever solve your internal discomfort, no amount of refills, office visits, free health insurance or physician time will make you feel any better than you don't today. You will always blame others for your own lot in life because anything else would focus attention where it belongs and you could never handle that.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hell bankers make a whole lot more money than Doctors and arent nearly as smart or dedicated. Of course under the Obama plan neither of them will make any money.

Au contraire...Obama is doing just fine for bankers. Actually, we LOVE him. Are you joking?

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

NTamm1215 06-13-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

Generalize much?

When I saw you replied I was hoping it'd be to the actual doctor who posted in the thread.

NT

dalakhani 06-13-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

I dont know Scuds...is that fair? How can you definitively say what one's motivations are for choosing a particular career? Isnt that a personal thing? Wouldnt that vary from individual to individual?

i can think of lot easier ways to achieve power, money, prestige and exclusivity. Remember-undergrad, med school, residency, blah, blah blah...thats a lot of school and a lot of work.

Why wouldnt they just go trade bonds?

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
For years now on here I have seen this offensive tirade of yours demean my profession because you are not getting what you are convinced you deserve.

As you continue to blame ever physician that has had the misfortune of treating you for the imperfections of how you feel, you continue to insult every caregivers motivations, compensation and morals because you don't feel like you have enough energy, are happy enough, sleep soundly to your satisfaction or carry the physical strength you are convinced you are guaranteed in this life.

That is why I don't meet people from this board. You write something that somebody doesn't like, and they're gunna get as personal as they can.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont know Scuds...is that fair? How can you definitively say what one's motivations are for choosing a particular career? Isnt that a personal thing? Wouldnt that vary from individual to individual?

i can think of lot easier ways to achieve power, money, prestige and exclusivity. Remember-undergrad, med school, residency, blah, blah blah...thats a lot of school and a lot of work.

Why wouldnt they just go trade bonds?

I just don't think very many are doing it for the satisfaction of helping sick people. As far as banking goes, I don't remember that as one of the main professions that kids are told "the brightest" go into.

dalakhani 06-13-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I just don't think very many are doing it for the satisfaction of helping sick people. As far as banking goes, I don't remember that as one of the main professions that kids are told "the brightest" go into.

you didnt say anything about bright. You said "power, money, prestige, exclusivity".

If a person were looking for those things and didnt care about helping people, why would they want to be a doctor? All that school and all that work.

I can think of a bunch of careers off the top of my head where they could get all of the things you are talking about (power, money, prestige, exclusivity) and it wouldnt cost them 12 years and a quarter million dollars in student loans.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-13-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
you didnt say anything about bright. You said "power, money, prestige, exclusivity".

I said "etc." To me, it's the same as prestige. A lot of smart people go into this profession because it's considered a smart people's profession.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-14-2009 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Generalize much?

When I saw you replied I was hoping it'd be to the actual doctor who posted in the thread.

NT

http://www.artinthepicture.com/paint...te-aux-Bocaux/

Well, as far as that lil rant(you're talking about) goes, I think if this guy was his patient, then he'd of said the same thing to him. He suffered from 1)exhaustion, 2)insomnia and 3)depression. None of that would of showed up on Doc's trusted blood tests. On March 16, 1955 he committed suicide. He leapt to his death from his eleventh story studio terrace. He was 41 years old. If it ain't easy to fix, or it's "vague," then blame it on the patients disgusting character. It's too damn much trouble.


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