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Kasept 06-10-2009 02:17 PM

$96 play took down $970k Belmont Day P6
 
ELMONT, N.Y. – There was only one person who correctly selected the winners of all six graded stakes races for the Pick 6 on Belmont Stakes Day, Saturday, June 6, resulting in a payout of $969,345.

The lone winning ticket was put together by a Youbet.com, Inc. (Youbet) customer who spent $96 to construct the Pick 6 wager. The winning ticket:
  • one horse in the first leg (Fabulous Strike)
  • two horses in the second leg (Diamondrella, Raw Silk)
  • two horses in the third leg (Munnings, Hull)
  • two horses in the fourth leg (Gabby’s Golden Gal, Livin Lovin)
  • three horses in the fifth leg (Gio Ponti, Cosmonaut, Wesley)
  • two horses in the sixth leg (Summer Bird, Charitable Man)

The New York Racing Association, Inc.’s (NYRA) mutuel department utilizes progressive scan technology, which generates a report after each leg of any multi-race wager so that all dollars can be tracked throughout the wager, ensuring no one has tampered with any ticket after the first leg of the wager. In addition, NYRA verified with Youbet the structure and cost of this wager, and the time that it was made, before authorizing its payment. The winning Pick 6 wager was placed via Youbet at 1:56 p.m. on Saturday, and the pool closed at 2:34 p.m.

The individual winners of the six races that made up the Pick 6, along with their win payouts, are listed below:
  • True North Handicap (G2) – Fabulous Strike ($3.80)
  • Just A Game (G1) – Diamondrella ($21.20)
  • Woody Stephens (G2) – Munnings ($9.00)
  • Acorn (G1) – Gabby’s Golden Gal ($28.40)
  • Manhattan Handicap (G1) – Gio Ponti ($9.20)
  • Belmont Stakes (G1) – Summer Bird ($25.80)

South Beach Luv 06-10-2009 02:20 PM

Props to them for leaving Justwhistledixie off

GPK 06-10-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv
Props to them for leaving Justwhistledixie off


and Forever Together.

gales0678 06-10-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
and Forever Together.

and MTB

SniperSB23 06-10-2009 02:46 PM

Is there anyway to know if that was the only ticket they played? That would seem a reasonable ticket if it was their AAACAA ticket.

smuthg 06-10-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
and MTB

and This Ones for Phil...

-BT- 06-10-2009 03:42 PM

throws out the chalks in 5 of 6 legs...............and this is why i am where i am, and they're 970K to the good. I wouldn't have given you a nickel for that ticket before the first leg, go figure

-bt-

golfer 06-10-2009 04:28 PM

That is an absolutely BIZARRE ticket.

Riot 06-10-2009 04:39 PM

Hey - those of use who think that is bizarre, are not winning :p

Maybe we are the ones that should re-examine our idea of what isn't bizarre when it comes to Pick 6 ticket construction! :$:

golfer 06-10-2009 04:46 PM

I realize that this ticket took the money, and I only write this as someone who handicapped the card. It's just my opinion, but the bizarre thing about the play was the non-winning horses that were used, and those that were left off. I wonder if this was the only ticket the winner played.

Riot 06-10-2009 04:53 PM

Hey - Steve is talking about this ticket on ATR right now, but why is he assuming a man constructed this ticket?

Steve is saying, "he used" - not "she used" Just sayin' .... :D

hockey2315 06-10-2009 04:53 PM

I actually don't find the structure that bizarre if the person was structuring his/her ticket around prices in the second and fourth legs.

Kasept 06-10-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Hey - Steve is talking about this ticket on ATR right now, but why is he assuming a man constructed this ticket?

Steve is saying, "he used" - not "she used" Just sayin' .... :D

I said 'he'... and added 'or she'.

Riot 06-10-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
I said 'he'... and added 'or she'.

:tro: :tro: ;)

golfer 06-10-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I actually don't find the structure that bizarre if the person was structuring his/her ticket around prices in the second and fourth legs.

It wasn't the structure, just the horses used/not used. Raw Silk the 2nd most likely winner behind Diamondrella? Livin Lovin the next best after Gabby? Cosmonaut and Wesly just in case Gio Ponti didn't win? Once again, it's just my opinion after handicapping the races, but it seems bizarre to me.

Antitrust32 06-10-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
It wasn't the structure, just the horses used/not used. Raw Silk the 2nd most likely winner behind Diamondrella? Livin Lovin the next best after Gabby? Cosmonaut and Wesly just in case Gio Ponti didn't win? Once again, it's just my opinion after handicapping the races, but it seems bizarre to me.


it really seems like he/she used multiple tickets.. but I guess you never know!

docicu3 06-10-2009 05:24 PM

Some of this is big score mentality. Throw out chalk to make payout a worthwhile endeavor. If he loses on a chalky payout (s)he doesn't mind as much by playing second and third choices in most races things are very different as this ticket was alone in it's enormous reward. Very interesting idea. This was no birthday number player.

hockey2315 06-10-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
It wasn't the structure, just the horses used/not used. Raw Silk the 2nd most likely winner behind Diamondrella? Livin Lovin the next best after Gabby? Cosmonaut and Wesly just in case Gio Ponti didn't win? Once again, it's just my opinion after handicapping the races, but it seems bizarre to me.

It seems to me like if this was the only ticket that he/she played, s/he was going for a big pay-off or prices in a few legs rather than merely using the most likely winners in each race.

Riot 06-10-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
it really seems like he/she used multiple tickets.. but I guess you never know!

Consider they may have constructed multiple tickets, but only played one, going for the big payoff, and bowing out of any chance at less. After watching how the early races were unfolding.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-10-2009 06:31 PM

Gabby's Golden Gal and Dimanondrella were impossible uses for me. I singled both JWD and FT in those two races.

And I didn't include Gio Ponti because of distance, wet turf, and layoff even though I believed he might have been the best horse going in.

blackthroatedwind 06-10-2009 07:15 PM

I suppose it may have been part of a much larger play. Otherwise, it was a very randomly lucky win.

SniperSB23 06-10-2009 11:15 PM

I really think if you look at it as an AAACAA ticket it isn't that illogical. Fab Strike was reasonable as a single. I wanted nothing to do with Diamondrella on the stretchout but with Penna as hot as he was I can understand the play. Raw Silk was my top choice there and I played against Forever Together in everything. The third leg pretty much comes down to that he thought Munnings ran a huge race last out and so did Hull. Certainly not my opinion on the race but still a possible conclusion. In the fourth leg there is no reasonable explanation except that it was a backup ticket and I think people are getting too caught up on that leg and not recognizing that it could have been a backup. The fifth leg was a wide open race that he got lucky on and picked reasonable horses. The sixth race was a calculated move to use the two most obvious horses aside from Mine that Bird. It looks like a clear cut AAACAA ticket to me that he nailed which was hardly some schmuck like myself lucking into a huge P6 on $96.

chucklestheclown 06-10-2009 11:56 PM

Nice score. The question is, if you do it at home on YouBet does it count?

VOL JACK 06-11-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Nice score. The question is, if you do it at home on YouBet does it count?

Why would it not count?

Not like the guy/gal was on Bodog.

chucklestheclown 06-11-2009 12:16 AM

If a tree falls in the forest does it still make a sound? That's what I meant.:wf

Indian Charlie 06-11-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I really think if you look at it as an AAACAA ticket it isn't that illogical. Fab Strike was reasonable as a single. I wanted nothing to do with Diamondrella on the stretchout but with Penna as hot as he was I can understand the play. Raw Silk was my top choice there and I played against Forever Together in everything. The third leg pretty much comes down to that he thought Munnings ran a huge race last out and so did Hull. Certainly not my opinion on the race but still a possible conclusion. In the fourth leg there is no reasonable explanation except that it was a backup ticket and I think people are getting too caught up on that leg and not recognizing that it could have been a backup. The fifth leg was a wide open race that he got lucky on and picked reasonable horses. The sixth race was a calculated move to use the two most obvious horses aside from Mine that Bird. It looks like a clear cut AAACAA ticket to me that he nailed which was hardly some schmuck like myself lucking into a huge P6 on $96.

I thought Dixie was the easiest favorite in the sequence to toss. At least of the heavily bet ones anyways. Tossing Forever Together was nuts. The only way I see someone tossing her is the hope her wet turf form holds.

SniperSB23 06-11-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I thought Dixie was the easiest favorite in the sequence to toss. At least of the heavily bet ones anyways. Tossing Forever Together was nuts. The only way I see someone tossing her is the hope her wet turf form holds.

I thought she was very beatable on the wet turf. I played Caribbean Sunset, Captain's Lover, Modern Look, and Raw Silk and it backfired. But to play her at even money on the wet turf was nuts to me.

Indian Charlie 06-11-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I thought she was very beatable on the wet turf. I played Caribbean Sunset, Captain's Lover, Modern Look, and Raw Silk and it backfired. But to play her at even money on the wet turf was nuts to me.

I agree playing her to win was stupid (both turf races were unplayable), but to toss her from your p6? I'd have been far more surprised by a win from either JWD or This Ones For Phil than I would have from FT.

SniperSB23 06-11-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I agree playing her to win was stupid (both turf races were unplayable), but to toss her from your p6? I'd have been far more surprised by a win from either JWD or This Ones For Phil than I would have from FT.

Who knows what his other tickets were? He could have had her as a B or C or just chose to completely play against her.

Split Rock 06-11-2009 05:13 AM

No offense to anyone, but it appears to me that this person just chose the horses he or she liked in each leg, irrespective of the morning line.

Too many people try to drill this game down to DNA like analysis.

If you are finding yourself unable to ever play a ticket like that, you should never play the pick 6 unless you have very deep pockets. You have to be willing to get beat by low priced horses in the pick 6. Otherwise, you'll just be chasing small payouts without any chance of really winning, which, in and of itself, defeats the reason for playing a pick 6.

blackthroatedwind 06-11-2009 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
If a tree falls in the forest does it still make a sound? That's what I meant.:wf


The cash makes a huge noise.

Slewbopper 06-11-2009 05:59 PM

Sounds like the Drexel boys are back

ninetoone 06-12-2009 10:17 AM

Congrats to the winner. Unbelievable score on such a small ticket.


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