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Sightseek 05-07-2009 11:47 AM

Godolphin Buys West Side Bernie
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...st-side-bernie

Being pointed to Carnival next year.

hockey2315 05-07-2009 11:50 AM

How much could that horse possibly be worth?

randallscott35 05-07-2009 11:50 AM

I would rather own Atomic Rain. But that's just me

-BT- 05-07-2009 11:54 AM

why not, we're in a recession right? buy them on the cheap

-bt-

philcski 05-07-2009 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
How much could that horse possibly be worth?

I'd guess half a million range.

MaTH716 05-07-2009 01:01 PM

Man, there are a bunch of attention starved people/groups in this world.

GoIrish 05-07-2009 01:36 PM

Too bad. I was hoping to see him in the Haskell this year.

slotdirt 05-07-2009 01:45 PM

Noooooo!!!!

ateamstupid 05-07-2009 01:50 PM

Funny that a bunch of Arabic guys bought such a Jewish sounding horse. Was Rabbi Bagelstein's asking price too high?

slotdirt 05-07-2009 01:59 PM

At some point, Godolphin is just going to buy the entire Derby field.

philcski 05-07-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Funny that a bunch of Arabic guys bought such a Jewish sounding horse. Was Rabbi Bagelstein's asking price too high?

:D
West Side Elbraaf sound a little better?

VOL JACK 05-07-2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
:D
West Side Elbraaf sound a little better?

West Side Sheik Bin Al Rashid Hamdin Mouktum.

ArlJim78 05-07-2009 04:47 PM

maybe he was purchased by Sheik Mordecai

2 Dollar Bill 05-07-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
At some point, Godolphin is just going to buy the entire Derby field.

What would that Exacta pay ?

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:08 PM

Why is this an "oh my god" moment? I don't get it. Godolphin has NO interest in buying up every horse out there. They don't desire having half the Derby field (or the full Derby field). Privately purchasing horses in the midst of their 2YO season DOES NOT buy you a Derby. They'll tell you that...it takes a bunch to get a horse to the Derby, let alone win - they do not buy these horses solely to win the Derby.

Half the people on this board love to hit-n-run Godolphin and I think you fundamentally misinterpret them. I can't help your interest in doing so.

The purse structure in Dubai, for the International Racing Carnival, is the most lucrative in the world. If anything, it's absurd that more American horsemen don't ship over. They'll pay a bunch, if not all, of your costs for shipping, your personal travel expenses (assuming you make a certain number of starts - reasonable), feed costs, etc. Of the 80 or so races at the Carnival this year, only three or four races DID NOT have a purse in excess of $110,000.

Mock if (or them) if you will, but those who aren't participating are simply missing out.

Scav 05-07-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Why is this an "oh my god" moment? I don't get it. Godolphin has NO interest in buying up every horse out there. They don't desire having half the Derby field (or the full Derby field). Privately purchasing horses in the midst of their 2YO season DOES NOT buy you a Derby. They'll tell you that...it takes a bunch to get a horse to the Derby, let alone win - they do not buy these horses solely to win the Derby.

Half the people on this board love to hit-n-run Godolphin and I think you fundamentally misinterpret them. I can't help your interest in doing so.

The purse structure in Dubai, for the International Racing Carnival, is the most lucrative in the world. If anything, it's absurd that more American horsemen don't ship over. They'll pay a bunch, if not all, of your costs for shipping, your personal travel expenses (assuming you make a certain number of starts - reasonable), feed costs, etc. Of the 80 or so races at the Carnival this year, only three or four races DID NOT have a purse in excess of $110,000.

Mock if (or them) if you will, but those who aren't participating are simply missing out.

Maybe I am wrong but isn't the guy winning his own money?

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree. The oh my god part was a joke. Thanks for the lecture though.

Surely.

NTamm1215 05-07-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
[b][i]

To the nearest zero, how many people believe or buy into the highlighted part?

Everything that's written there about the International Racing Carnival is true.

NT

pgardn 05-07-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
The purse structure in Dubai, for the International Racing Carnival, is the most lucrative in the world. If anything, it's absurd that more American horsemen don't ship over. They'll pay a bunch, if not all, of your costs for shipping, your personal travel expenses (assuming you make a certain number of starts - reasonable), feed costs, etc. Of the 80 or so races at the Carnival this year, only three or four races DID NOT have a purse in excess of $110,000.

I wonder if they have a race in honor of Brass Hat.

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:41 PM

I wish success for all of those who race horses in Dubai and ship out and attempt to carry on their successes following those runs, Godolphin included.

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Maybe I am wrong but isn't the guy winning his own money?

The minute you think Sheikh Mohammed cares about winning purse money of races anywhere, you've misunderstood his intentions.

The point in my earlier post is this...Godolphin is spearheading the campaign to create a racing paradise. It isn't just about winning some races - sure, that matters (not the money, but the sport of it) and creating a mammoth breeding organization. There will be a day and time when Godolphin dramatically slows their auction purchasing. It's coming.

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I wonder if they have a race in honor of Brass Hat.

No. They choose to not name races after horses who finished second in their only start over the track.

PatCummings 05-07-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
You make this sound like Armaggedon.

There are MANY in Kentucky who hope that day never comes.

pgardn 05-07-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
No. They choose to not name races after horses who finished second in their only start over the track.

So his 1.2 million went back into purses.
Thats cool.

pgardn 05-07-2009 09:13 PM

Oh yes.
Wilko got it.

Fair enough...
Yes indeed.

HaloWishingwell 05-07-2009 09:29 PM

How about a race called 'The SILVER CHARM". Purse of $2,000.000 restricted to privately purchased horses that didn't win the Derby.

Danzig 05-07-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
How much could that horse possibly be worth?


$3.50

pgardn 05-07-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
You make this sound like Armaggedon.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
There are MANY in Kentucky who hope that day never comes.

Star Wars Evil Empire music
or the theme from Jaws.

Both work.

pgardn 05-07-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell
How about a race called 'The SILVER CHARM". Purse of $2,000.000 restricted to privately purchased horses that didn't win the Derby.

Like State Bred stakes race.
Small potater stuff.

pgardn 05-07-2009 10:03 PM

Is Simon Crisford allowed to drink...

Heavily?

Coach Pants 05-07-2009 11:23 PM

Rah rah rah go Sheikh Mo go!

my miss storm cat 05-08-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Why is this an "oh my god" moment? I don't get it. Godolphin has NO interest in buying up every horse out there. They don't desire having half the Derby field (or the full Derby field). Privately purchasing horses in the midst of their 2YO season DOES NOT buy you a Derby. They'll tell you that...it takes a bunch to get a horse to the Derby, let alone win - they do not buy these horses solely to win the Derby.

Half the people on this board love to hit-n-run Godolphin and I think you fundamentally misinterpret them. I can't help your interest in doing so.

The purse structure in Dubai, for the International Racing Carnival, is the most lucrative in the world. If anything, it's absurd that more American horsemen don't ship over. They'll pay a bunch, if not all, of your costs for shipping, your personal travel expenses (assuming you make a certain number of starts - reasonable), feed costs, etc. Of the 80 or so races at the Carnival this year, only three or four races DID NOT have a purse in excess of $110,000.

Mock if (or them) if you will, but those who aren't participating are simply missing out.

Nice post. :)

my miss storm cat 05-08-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Rah rah rah go Sheikh Mo go!

Hey, I was just about to say that! :p


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