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I love seeing all the protest about Notre Dame letting Obama speak at this years graduation ceremony. He has absolutely no place at ND, it makes no sense letting someone speak who goes against everything your University stands for and believes in. Good to see bishops and priest along with many others getting all over them for it. If they go through with it and let Obama be the speaker, I will lose a lot of respect that I have for them.

http://notredamescandal.com/

yes, it's always best to only have people who agree with you on everything to come around. much easier that way.

It's too bad 75% of the students want him to speak there...and I hope all your football players on scholarship are as "Catholic" as those Bishops and Priests

75% of the students want him to speak or 75% of the ones they ask want zerO to speak?

For God's sake Obama is for infanticide. The murdering of a child after it is born if the intent of the "mother" was to kill her baby.

Norte Dame is supposed to be a catholic school. Catholics are supposed to pro-life. I know there are plenty of them that aren't and they are worthless.

Ironically, I kind of agree with ND here...I mean, if I was on a team that was invited to the Bush White House I would have not showed up..so it would be hypocritical to make ND people do the same. Why they invited him in the first place is beyond me...Wasn't Ann Coulter available?

97% of the Seniors want him to speak...guess they are all worthless too
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps...3290336/-1/XML

It brings me back to my early days on DT when you and I were on it with Irish and his crazy ND loyalty...even though he goes to Michigan State..

and I've met Austin and he's a good dude...but obviously there are some differences of opinion

the link refuses to load and you know how internet polls work. Click Click Click...

I just saw a poll that had 110% of the students want him to speak (without a teleprompter)

ummmm uh ummmm

i think ND is being ridiculous.. who wouldnt want the POTUS to speak at your school? They should have Michael Jackson... he fits in with the Priest mentality.

Dumb asses. At least they suck at football.

You say ridiculous because you obviously are not Catholic and don't understand how important pro life is to the church. Let me know an issue or belief that is important to you, I'll name someone who pretty much says F-that, and we'll see how you feel about him speaking at a place where this belief is suppose to be held high.

What sense does it make to hold the sanctity of life so high at your University yet let someone who could give a **** less about it speak? It's like letting a KKK member speak at MLK's funeral.

But Austin...97% of the Seniors want him to speak...How do you explain that? Either they are open minded enough to welcome differing opinions or ALL OF THEM don't belong at ND?

I don't think that should matter, 97% of high school kids probably want the drinking age lowered, does that mean we should allow it?? The Catholic faith was built on certain principles, and those should be followed no matter what the situation. Popularity should not be chosen over morality, which is the case with letting Obama speak.

The Catholic Church also opposes the Death Penalty.
Just out of curiosity, would you "lose a lot of respect" for the school if they allowed someone who was in favor of the Death Penalty to speak at the school?

I think in the bible it does read "an eye for an eye"

Then why does the Cathoic Church officially oppose the Death Penalty?

It would be pretty hypocritical of them not to...but I guess that has never stopped them before

Can you buy condoms on campus at ND? Is there a REALLY bad STD problem there?

just wondering


and by the way Irish, I really disagree with a lot of the liberal ideas Obama is implementing, but I would jump on a chance to see him speak... Also, I didnt agree with tons of things Bush did, but I'd love to see him speak as long as he brought a translator.

abortion is a touchy subject.. but I know a few women who have had them (as does everybody), and I would never judge them for making that hard decision.

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

well said

the term anti-choice is so Orwellian

Someone explained to me that Norte Dame is no longer a Catholic School that many of the students aren't catholic and many of the professors are pretty much Ward Churchill.

Another fine institution taken over by parasites. I guess it is true that 97% of the seniors do want him to speak.

:wf

Well, because it seems that people who vehemently disagree with me want to use townhall, WND, and newsmax as news sources...I figured this has as good a shot as anything:

http://townhall.com/columnists/Allen..._or_notre_dame

There are anti-choicers out there who disagree with your position, Austin.

it also says turn the other cheek.

but then, i've always found that you can back up your position, whatever it may be, with something found somewhere in that book.

i asked the same type thing a few weeks back in a thread that followed similar lines.
notre dame isn't a strictly catholic institution, so i don't see that a school who has a divergent student body can suddenly cry foul and use their supposed 'school religion' as a reason to bar a speaker.

and as a former catholic, a lot of what the church does, what it stands for, is odd to me.

i think it is unbelievable how many people believe that thing word for word. Simply unbelievable.

Or more importantly, how many claim to, but really only believe it's literal when it fits what they want to hear.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

2nd :tro: :tro: :tro:


...And Notre Dame still sucks.

Wonder how many are taking this one literally:

"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

its okay as long as you dont get caught!


and another :tro: to b-dub.

I find it more ironic/ sad that people that are against the death penalty have zero problem with the murder of the innocent

Touche. Is it not the de facto anti-choice position to be pretty seriously thrilled with the death penalty? Good lord, I honestly can't remember the last time someone was anti-choice AND anti-death penalty. Ie, Killing real humans is totally good, it's just the murdering of blatocysts that's wrong.

10-4.

i feel the same way about "pro-life".

why aren't these people blocking funeral's instead of medical clinics?

"you can't go in!"

"but my mother...she died..."

"there are other options."

but congrats to notre dame for being unafraid to hear another voice. this is the flip side of the inauguration controversy over who gave the invocation.

Yeah that's totally what it's like.

I'm still trying to figure out how someone who goes to Michigan State has such a strong pulse on what's going on at Notre Dame.

I think in the bible it does read "an eye for an eye"

Knights of Colombus that was a horrible retort.

Im sure you are well-intentioned, but this is just
an awful response. The Pope would seriously
have to slap you. Eye for an eye...

Im sorry for my lack of sensitivity.
You gotta have a better answer than this.

Quick thoughts:
He is the President of the US. Though I disagree with the vast majority of his agenda, I doubt his commencement speech will be about controversial topics like abortion. if we only dealt with those we agreed with we would be an extremely disenlightened society. Protesting because of his stance on issues is not only disrespectful of the Office but is wrong.

Who the hell isnt so hung over or still drunk at the commencement that they can actually remember who spoke or what they said anyway?

Will he bring the telepromter?

you have to go way outside the context of the argument to get where you are going.

Apparently zerO isn't providing another voice it's the same voice. The school has lost it's way. 97% of the graduates want to hear the teleprompter.

since we are talking about school... if someone is against school choice does that make them anti-choice?