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Kasept 02-26-2009 08:20 AM

12 now likely for Big Cap
 
Blue Exit, Robby Albarado
Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia Jr.
Colonel John, Garrett Gomez
Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez
Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez
Dansant, no rider
Einstein, Julien Leparoux
Magnum, Joel Rosario
Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano
Monba, Edgar Prado
Tiago, Mike Smith
Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza

Red Rocks now possible.. Works tomorrow.

Bigsmc 02-26-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Blue Exit, Robby Albarado
Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia Jr.
Colonel John, Garrett Gomez
Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez
Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez
Dansant, no rider
Einstein, Julien Leparoux
Magnum, Joel Rosario
Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano
Monba, Edgar Prado
Tiago, Mike Smith
Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza

As a horseplayer, any time SA can put 12 horses in the gate, for any race, it is a good thing.

Mike 02-26-2009 09:38 AM

If I was thinking the older division was suspect, I might give a long look at the Euro entrant, Dansant, whose trainer says is the best poly track horse in England

DRF article:http://www.drf.com/news/article/101902.html

Indian Charlie 02-26-2009 11:27 AM

What would the line and odds be for a Tiago vs Colonel John head to head matchup?

King Glorious 02-26-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Blue Exit, Robby Albarado
Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia Jr.
Colonel John, Garrett Gomez
Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez
Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez
Dansant, no rider
Einstein, Julien Leparoux
Magnum, Joel Rosario
Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano
Monba, Edgar Prado
Tiago, Mike Smith
Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza

This is the early nominee for grass race of the year. I doubt we'll see a better field of grass horses in any of the major races this year. Well, except for the BC Classic.

10 pnt move up 02-26-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
What would the line and odds be for a Tiago vs Colonel John head to head matchup?

all I know is Smith ended up on the wrong horse.

Sightseek 02-26-2009 12:32 PM

Zenyatta should have been pointed to this.

asudevil 02-26-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
What would the line and odds be for a Tiago vs Colonel John head to head matchup?

Col John -160
Tiago +140

Indian Charlie 02-26-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil
Col John -160
Tiago +140

I think they'll dead heat for fourth.

mbahadur 02-26-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I think they'll dead heat for fourth.

Tiago will get a little more pace then he did in his last race. I'd take him over Colonel John in a head-to-head bet.

Indian Charlie 02-26-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
Tiago will get a little more pace then he did in his last race. I'd take him over Colonel John in a head-to-head bet.

The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

SniperSB23 02-26-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

The thing with Tiago is that he's a dirt horse that's never allowed to run on the dirt.

letswastemoney 02-26-2009 03:29 PM

It's Tiago vs. a field of turf horses!

I still hope Tiago wins!! :) :)

Scurlogue Champ 02-26-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
If I was thinking the older division was suspect, I might give a long look at the Euro entrant, Dansant, whose trainer says is the best poly track horse in England

DRF article:http://www.drf.com/news/article/101902.html

Medici Code 2, electric boogaloo.

Zambezi Sun will win this one.

mbahadur 02-26-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
The thing with Tiago is, he kinda stinks with or without a pace.

You probably are rooting for him because, I'm guessing, you used him in that TVG game.

I got 4 of the horses slated to run in the Big Cap in my fantasy stable:

Tiago
Colonel John
Cowboy Cal
Court Vision

I probably should have spread out my stable better so that all my horses are not running in the same race.

The one horse I do not have in my stable who I think has a good shot to win is Einstein (Leparoux has been on fire lately).

Pedigree Ann 02-26-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
The one horse I do not have in my stable who I think has a good shot to win is Einstein (Leparoux has been on fire lately).

And he is actually pretty accomplished on RD (real dirt); second to Curlin in a G1 at Churchill, winner of a G2 at Churchill, and a closing third in the recent Donn H, on a day when both big 9f races were fought out by the horses that were 1-2 all the way around the track.

Back in the good ol' days (geezer talk coming) lots of good horses ran on both turf and dirt and were top class on both. Kelso, Ack Ack, Cougar II, Exceller, John Henry, Perrault (won the Hollywood Gold Cup and Arlington Million in the same year), Greinton, ..., Einstein's dad Spend a Buck handled dirt just fine, you know.

Kasept 02-27-2009 05:21 PM

Red Rocks now possible.. Works tomorrow.

King Glorious 02-27-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Red Rocks now possible.. Works tomorrow.

Why not? Where are Conduit and Kip Deville?

2Hot4TV 02-27-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
If I was thinking the older division was suspect, I might give a long look at the Euro entrant, Dansant, whose trainer says is the best poly track horse in England

DRF article:http://www.drf.com/news/article/101902.html

Tyler Baze will ride Dansant.

letswastemoney 02-27-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Red Rocks now possible.. Works tomorrow.

Really? If you only saw the list of horses in this race, minus Tiago, you might think this is a G1 turf race...

Mike 02-27-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Tyler Baze will ride Dansant.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

my miss storm cat 03-01-2009 04:43 PM

Update (cause there are a few more names to add)...

http://www.santaanita.com/news/sn.ph...sundaymarch1st

Probable for the 72nd Big ‘Cap: Blue Exit, Robbie Albarado, 115; Cause, Jon Court, 110; Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia Jr., 118; Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 119; Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez, 119; Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez, 120; Dansant, Tyler Baze, 116; Einstein, Julien Leparoux, 121; Heroi Do Bafra, Martin Garcia, 111; Magnum, Joel Rosario, 116; Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano, 116; Monba, Edgar Prado, 114; Nownownow, Alex Solis, 116; Tiago, Mike Smith, 118; and Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza, 116.

2Hot4TV 03-02-2009 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I'm new to all this, so I will let you know after the race.:)


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