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miraja2 02-24-2009 09:30 PM

Bobby Jindal's response
 
Oh my god

pdrift1 02-24-2009 09:40 PM

jindal=:zz:

miraja2 02-24-2009 09:44 PM

He sounded like a bad animatronic tour guide at a museum or theme park that was giving a tour to a bunch of 1st graders.

timmgirvan 02-24-2009 09:46 PM

Jindals response was that Obamas plans would grow govt(32 new agencies in stimulus package) raise taxes(well, what do YOU thinks is gonna happen?)
and keep future generations in debt(DUH!!)
...Splain it to me,fellas?:rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 02-24-2009 09:48 PM

"Kool with ma, kool with pa, but don't agree with this here negro."-Opie from Baton Rouge

pdrift1 02-24-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
He sounded like a bad animatronic tour guide at a museum or theme park that was giving a tour to a bunch of 1st graders.

without a doubt !!!! he should talk about dem spending. at least he admitted his party has been guilty of the same :rolleyes:

ArlJim78 02-24-2009 11:34 PM

:eek: wasn't Gomer Pyle available? thats what his speaking style reminded me of.

nice guy, competent govenor, no chance in hell of becoming president.

joeydb 02-25-2009 08:21 AM

Well at least Governor Jindal's response was better than an endless stream of platitudes.

gales0678 02-25-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
:eek: wasn't Gomer Pyle available? thats what his speaking style reminded me of.

nice guy, competent govenor, no chance in hell of becoming president.

if this economy stalls he will be live in '12

remember a lot of people didn't think obama had much chance in the summer of '07 going up against hillary

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
remember a lot of people didn't think obama had much chance in the summer of '07 going up against hillary

But Obama also never sounded like Kenneth from 30 Rock....even back then.

So hilarious. They may as well just have let Sarah Palin do it for crying out loud. At least her terrible performance could have been passed off as Sarah Palin just being Sarah Palin.

In uber right-wing circles, folks like Palin and the Exorcist Jindal are legit, promising, presidential candidates. In reality, they are both absolute non-starters with no chance because they're mostly useless on a national level (and both well in over their heads on that level, a thought which has been born out dozens of times in the last few months) and they completely scare the crap out of the average American.

It was amateur hour.

joeydb 02-25-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It was amateur hour.

Funny, that's exactly how I'd describe a senator who held office for 2 years before running for president, never had to finish a term and voted present more often than voting yea or nay.

A fairy tale comes to mind: "The Emperor's New Clothes" Everyone declares Obama brilliant for fear of seeming obtuse. No one can cite a single brilliant thought of any substance -- for platitudes and generalities do not qualify.

You don't need a genius to sign a bill he hasn't read, even if it is worth almost $1 trillion dollars of the yet to be born grandchildrens' money.

Coach Pants 02-25-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
But Obama also never sounded like Kenneth from 30 Rock....even back then.

So hilarious. They may as well just have let Sarah Palin do it for crying out loud. At least her terrible performance could have been passed off as Sarah Palin just being Sarah Palin.

In uber right-wing circles, folks like Palin and the Exorcist Jindal are legit, promising, presidential candidates. In reality, they are both absolute non-starters with no chance because they're mostly useless on a national level (and both well in over their heads on that level, a thought which has been born out dozens of times in the last few months) and they completely scare the crap out of the average American.

It was amateur hour.

Amateur hour like the congressmen who were getting Obama's autograph?

The democrats pulled the no experience card. The republicans, like the true lemmings they are, simply followed suit.

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
You don't need a genius to sign a bill he hasn't read, even if it is worth almost $1 trillion dollars of the yet to be born grandchildrens' money.

It's okay, my kids will already be paying for a war they would have known better than to start, so what's a little stimulus cherry on top, right?

It's the government. They're spending money when the economy is in the tank to try to help. Color me shocked.

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Amateur hour like the congressmen who were getting Obama's autograph?

The democrats pulled the no experience card. The republicans, like the true lemmings they are, simply followed suit.

Certainly on the autographs.

The only problem with your latter point is it's that their amateurs can't hold their own on the national stage. The Dems' is the President. The Repubs' have been deservedly laughed off at every turn. Whether Obama had appropriate experience or not, at least he didn't come off like a high school debate team captain when trying to convince the country that he did. So maybe everyone got fooled...but at least he's not a glaringly obvious moron...he's just hiding it better if that turns out to be the case.

joeydb 02-25-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
It's okay, my kids will already be paying for a war they would have known better than to start, so what's a little stimulus cherry on top, right?

It's the government. They're spending money when the economy is in the tank to try to help. Color me shocked.

OK, so let the Congress tell the truth then:

We have no idea if it will work at all.
We also know we can't ever pay it back since we didn't have any money to pay back the lesser sum we had before this year.
If we can't pay it back the dollar will fail.
To put together this bill we asked every idiot Democrat congressman what he or she wants, we didn't call it an earmark, but we just added it up and produced over a thousand pages no one read.
We got three idiot Republicans in the Senate to go along, so now we can call it bipartisan.
Oh, and even though all we did was add up everyone's pipe dream into one bill, we can feign moral superiority and our condescension toward the average American citizen is well justified.

Coach Pants 02-25-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Certainly on the autographs.

The only problem with your latter point is it's that their amateurs can't hold their own on the national stage. The Dems' is the President. The Repubs' have been deservedly laughed off at every turn. Whether Obama had appropriate experience or not, at least he didn't come off like a high school debate team captain when trying to convince the country that he did. So maybe everyone got fooled...but at least he's not a glaringly obvious moron...he's just hiding it better if that turns out to be the case.

His former association with the Rev certainly debunks that point.

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
OK, so let the Congress tell the truth then:

We have no idea if it will work at all.
We also know we can't ever pay it back since we didn't have any money to pay back the lesser sum we had before this year.
If we can't pay it back the dollar will fail.
To put together this bill we asked every idiot Democrat congressman what he or she wants, we didn't call it an earmark, but we just added it up and produced over a thousand pages no one read.
We got three idiot Republicans in the Senate to go along, so now we can call it bipartisan.
Oh, and even though all we did was add up everyone's pipe dream into one bill, we can feign moral superiority and our condescension toward the average American citizen is well justified.

That about sums it up. There are lots of things the government does that are questions marks at the start...we don't know if they'll work. War. Science programs. Anything. You name it. But we try because someone elected thinks it will work and thinks it's the best idea. That's sort of how these things work. You got me Iraq. I got you this bill.

We'll see how it plays out.

joeydb 02-25-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
So maybe everyone got fooled...but at least he's not a glaringly obvious moron...he's just hiding it better if that turns out to be the case.

He didn't fool me Brian. I wasn't dumb enough to vote for him. I'm not following the pied piper.

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
His former association with the Rev certainly debunks that point.

People not named Michelle Malkin obviously didn't care very much about that. In retrospect, it was barely a blip on his radar.

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
He didn't fool me Brian. I wasn't dumb enough to vote for him. I'm not following the pied piper.

Well I personally don't think he fooled anyone. I don't think he's a moron.

My point was that even if he does turn out to be one...then he'll get some credit for hiding it behind a facade of intelligence...a luxury that neither Palin nor Jindal seem to have. And that's why they are incessantly mocked, because it's obvious that they're both in way over their heads at this level. Obama, if he turns out to be in over his head (and time will tell), fooled the country into thinking he wouldn't be. Again, we'll see how it plays out. It's been a month.

gales0678 02-25-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
His former association with the Rev certainly debunks that point.


and tony rezko

gales0678 02-25-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Well I personally don't think he fooled anyone. I don't think he's a moron.

My point was that even if he does turn out to be one...then he'll get some credit for hiding it behind a facade of intelligence...a luxury that neither Palin nor Jindal seem to have. And that's why they are incessantly mocked, because it's obvious that they're both in way over their heads at this level. Obama, if he turns out to be in over his head (and time will tell), fooled the country into thinking he wouldn't be. Again, we'll see how it plays out. It's been a month.


again he didn't fool anyone - he won the primary for 1 simple reason , the dems didn't want to put out a candidate for presdient that had voted to give bush authorization to go to iraq

anyone the dems put up this year was going to win anyway , you know that , the whole country knows that , the whole world knows that, why d oyou thin obama was 1/10 and mccain was about 20/1 in vegas in oct?

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
again he didn't fool anyone - he won the primary for 1 simple reason , the dems didn't want to put out a candidate for presdient that had voted to give bush authorization to go to iraq

anyone the dems put up this year was going to win anyway , you know that , the whole country knows that , the whole world knows that, why d oyou thin obama was 1/10 and mccain was about 20/1 in vegas in oct?

Well I'll agree that he didn't fool anyone because I still stand by the opinion that he didn't need to fool anyone because he's not legitimately a raving moron like some of his opponents. I believe he is what he says he is. And time will prove that.

miraja2 02-25-2009 11:34 AM

I'm a little surprised to see anybody here attempting to defend Jindal's performance last night. It was simply dreadful: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...litico/19283_1
I think that if I was a conservative, I would be a little bit pissed that they trotted out a guy like that to articulate the things that I believed in rather than somebody that could construct an intelligent argument.
It would be like if the conservatives on this board got together and decided to select a spokesperson, and then they passed over Chuck & ArlJim and decided just to let GRITS speak for them.

Smooth Operator 02-25-2009 11:50 AM

Pubs continue to search for some leadership after Captain Bush and Officers Cheney and Cox steered the Titanic into the iceberg.


Just hilarious to watch




Think my I.Q. fell 50 points as I listened to this guy and his Mister-Rogers-like delivery on the car radio last night...

The Indomitable DrugS 02-25-2009 01:36 PM

Jindal is OK with me.

I caught one of his politcal rallys on C-Span a year and a half ago or so ... it was really late and I couldn't find the remote ...

He played Lousianna Saturday Night at the end of it. Very underrated country song I'd say.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-25-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
People not named Michelle Malkin obviously didn't care very much about that. In retrospect, it was barely a blip on his radar.

It probably helped him.

The more they heard about the Rev. Wright guy .. the less they got to think of him as a muslim.

dellinger63 02-25-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
It probably helped him.

The more they heard about the Rev. Wright guy .. the less they got to think of him as a muslim.

and Blacks no longer considered him an 'Uncle Tom' or worse. Guess a Racist Reverend beats a Joe Six Pack any day. Not sure if Rev. Wright is a 'baby daddy' like the great Rev Jackson though.

Honu 02-25-2009 03:08 PM

What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?

SniperSB23 02-25-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?

Got elected President.

Danzig 02-25-2009 03:13 PM

i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.

SniperSB23 02-25-2009 03:16 PM

Is someone having fun with Wikipedia or did he really choose to go by Bobby because he was inspired by Bobby Brady?

brianwspencer 02-25-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Got elected President.

WIN!!!11!1!!

dellinger63 02-25-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?

Got a great deal on a lot next to his mansion so no one would build. A real estate Messiah. Something to do with a guy in jail now.

Honu 02-25-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.


It has nothing to do with anything just like his qualifications to be president, I was just going along with the part of the thread saying that people were fooled but that he is not a moron , yet . Thats all, please continue.

ArlJim78 02-25-2009 04:51 PM

I think Republicans have only two shots to take down Obama in 2012.
If the ecomomy turns into a genuine depression type catastrophe (I'm frankly seeing this as more and more likely), or if they find someone amongst them with real gravitas, real charisma. Its not that hard to come up with a winning message, frankly there was not that much wrong with what Jindal said, its just that he does not inspire and doesn't appear presidential. If Republicans nominate someone like him, which would not be surprising at all, they're doomed again in my view. Maybe he would be a step up from Bush because he is genuinely smart, but its going to take more than that.

since Reagan, Republicans only nominate people that don't communicate that well in speeches or interviews. Bush 41, Dole, Bush43, McCain, none of them what you would call natural speakers, not glib or charismatic.
Bush41 won because he took the handoff from Reagan and I think had only Dukakis to beat, Bush43 won because the Dem's also nominated a similar stiff in Kerry.
now Dem's have a real star with a cult following. forget that there is no substance and that he lies continuously and has accelerated us on the path to economic ruin, those things may or may not matter by the time the next election rolls around. They'll get trounced again if they don't go with someone sharp and dynamic. They need to call up a rookie phenom from the farm team because I don't see anyone that fits the bill out there now.

Danzig 02-25-2009 05:50 PM

i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...

timmgirvan 02-25-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...

For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.

Danzig 02-25-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

timmgirvan 02-25-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

So...you're are onboard with the new 410Bil package(with 8957 earmarks)? The Dems are convinced Americans are stupid and need to be governed. Just another step on the slippery slope...


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