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Hwjb 01-23-2009 12:15 AM

A belated thanks from across the pond...
 
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

Cannon Shell 01-23-2009 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwjb
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

:zz: :wf

Kasept 01-23-2009 06:22 AM

Harry,

We'll do anything here to get you to start posting your punts again!

Hwjb 01-23-2009 07:18 AM

Steve, sorry should have posted this in pol/soc in the first place.

Really enjoyed your 'Newest Column' on the homepage re stewards. You'll be unsurprised to know that the same problems abound over here. From a bettor's viewpoint all you can ask for is consistency, and that's the one thing we lack. Stewards over here appear to be privileged members of the aristocracy who enjoy a free lunch/drink before casting their untrained eyes over proceedings. There is recourse for appeal, but that will happen several weeks after and, if the verdict is overturned, it doesn't change a losing ticket into a winning one. You lose on the day, you've lost. I can think of three instances where I've backed a horse who, weeks later, has been awarded the race yet I've had to mark down as a loser. Stewards are the bane of my flippin' life!


As for my punts, you may know that I'm predominantly a jumps man nowadays, and all I can suggest is that you back Diamond Harry for the Ballymore Properties Hurdle at Cheltenham in March. In my life I've never been so excited about a horse before. On the Flat, the horse to follow in Europe this year very much is Crowded House; the guy who owned Wilko and Red Rocks has him, and he just looks monstrous.

ddthetide 01-23-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwjb
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

can i puke now or do i have to wait for the first 100 days.:wf :wf :wf

Cajungator26 01-23-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
can i puke now or do i have to wait for the first 100 days.:wf :wf :wf

I'm puking now. :wf

hi_im_god 01-23-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwjb
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

since no one else has the manners, i'll say thanks.

most of us feel pretty good about having someone who can string words together into coherent sentences and sentences into coherent thoughts in the white house.

ateamstupid 01-23-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
:zz: :wf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm puking now. :wf


ddthetide 01-23-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm puking now. :wf

i'm sorry but i've had my fill of everyone acting like this guy is the second coming of christ.:wf

Cajungator26 01-23-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm sorry but i've had my fill of everyone acting like this guy is the second coming of christ.:wf

Truth be told, I'm a staunch conservative, but now that Obama is in office, I wish him the best of luck. Just makes me a little weary when everyone and their mother from other countries actually likes America's choice of President. Guess I've grown accustomed to being hated and feel more comfortable that way. :D

ateamstupid 01-23-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm sorry but i've had my fill of everyone acting like this guy is the second coming of christ.:wf

Yeah, that's clearly what Harry said. :rolleyes:

hi_im_god 01-23-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm sorry but i've had my fill of everyone acting like this guy is the second coming of christ.:wf

the only people acting like that are the right winger's trying to stuff the characterization down everyone's throats.

i'm happy we have a thoughtful moderate president. that's good enough for me.

i guess maybe i'd set up straw men to battle if i was out of idea's. but i hope i never find out.

AeWingnut 01-23-2009 04:03 PM

Barakovich
 
yes, Fidel Castro is all giddy as well

ddthetide 01-23-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
the only people acting like that are the right winger's trying to stuff the characterization down everyone's throats.

i'm happy we have a thoughtful moderate president. that's good enough for me.

i guess maybe i'd set up straw men to battle if i was out of idea's. but i hope i never find out.

here's where you are wrong and maybe it's because you are on the west coast and i'm 90 miles away. people here or that have been passing through making him out to be the "greatest" already, how's he's going to save the world.

the disrespectful display that obama supporters put on whistling, booing and cheering President Bush and Mrs Bush's appearance as the left was awful at best! they even chanted and sang "good-bye".
i'll stop before i get myself in trouble.:L: :wf

hi_im_god 01-23-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
here's where you are wrong and maybe it's because you are on the west coast and i'm 90 miles away. people here or that have been passing through making him out to be the "greatest" already, how's he's going to save the world.

the disrespectful display that obama supporters put on whistling, booing and cheering President Bush and Mrs Bush's appearance as the left was awful at best! they even chanted and sang "good-bye".
i'll stop before i get myself in trouble.:L: :wf

i hate rudeness.

that's why i thanked the op for his kind thoughts and didn't post anything about barfing.

ateamstupid 01-23-2009 04:28 PM

Bush was (so glad I can finally use the past tense) a disgrace, so he deserves to be treated disgracefully.

cowgirlintexas 01-23-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
since no one else has the manners, i'll say thanks.

most of us feel pretty good about having someone who can string words together into coherent sentences and sentences into coherent thoughts in the white house.

Ah reckon' I'd have to agree with you there's God :)

TheSpyder 01-23-2009 04:36 PM

Since the President doesn't make laws which is under the direction of Capital Hill, his main function is to set the mood and tone of the country internally and the world. As those that remember JFK and the influence of the modern media (TV), projecting the right image and tone are critical.

Obama does a great job. JFK, Regan, and the President on West Wing also did. Conversely, Bush was a very sad joke.

AeWingnut 01-23-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwjb
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

I would sincerely like to know what is amazing about him. Outside of just running for office I see zero.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-23-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwjb
...I know it's a bit late, but to all of you Yanks, well done on electing someone all of us can get excited about as President. I'm as cynical as they come, and the hopes that have been invested in Obama are unrealistic, but he's still an amazing human being (not just relative to his predecessor), someone who can change the landscape of our troubled world, and a man who deserves our best will. Good luck Barack, good luck America!

'We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist'. Tremendous.


Sorry for sounding a bit soppy!

Thanks, but don't get too used to it. There are a number of different reasons why it happened. He's the smartest we've got, and when things get this fkd up, that's what people look for. The South is the South. They will get back to imposing their religious values on the rest of the country, but right now, everyone pretty much wants a leader(regardless of agreeing with him.) To turn an economy around, you need a leader. Most all the others were trying to be leaders. He's a natural leader. The brother won the state of Indiana. Bush won that by 20 points in 2004. He ain't Jesus, but that lil trick was pretty damn impressive. Cost me 2k (in winnings.) Brother's got skillz.

hi_im_god 01-23-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I would sincerely like to know what is amazing about him. Outside of just running for office I see zero.

the bar was lowered the last 8 years. he's managed to step over it without tripping.

i wonder what he'll do his 4th day.

pgardn 01-23-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Bomb more Muslims in Pakistan, like he did on his 3rd day?

Like this was not already going on...

This guy has inherited an absolute mess.
But just like always, politics transcend patriotism.
Some are just waiting for him to fail and jump.
Some are actually hoping he fails...

Its relatively easy to tell by the posts.
Conservatives are supposed to be patriotic my arse...

hi_im_god 01-23-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
Bomb more Muslims in Pakistan, like he did on his 3rd day?

make up your mind.

you can have socialist liberal tard or warmonger, not both.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-23-2009 06:59 PM

A brother winning Indiana is the equivalent of going to the moon for the 1st time. The difficulty involved was immense (in both cases.) He's done difficult things. We may not value them, but they were difficult tasks. He has done a lot. Many just don't like the fact he did it. So, they refuse to tally(that is a word for the Across-the-Pond person.)

TheSpyder 01-23-2009 08:22 PM

and GW did what?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
A friend sent this to me today via e-mail. Not all of the English are mad:

The Daily Mail (UK) wrote this editorial about Obama on 1/6/2009.
(confirmation, Google
"London Daily Mail Obama's Victory")

Obama's Victory--A British view
A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah
Wright, the US mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who
has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor
with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality. (emphasis added)
A victory for Hollywood , the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros, Moore, and Sarandon. Victory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion. Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of Fox and Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and beaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition. A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers' unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity. A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economic stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.

Congratulations America !


ateamstupid 01-24-2009 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Like this was not already going on...

This guy has inherited an absolute mess.
But just like always, politics transcend patriotism.
Some are just waiting for him to fail and jump.
Some are actually hoping he fails...

Its relatively easy to tell by the posts.
Conservatives are supposed to be patriotic my arse...

Thank ya. Anyone rooting for Obama to fail isn't an American, instead a treasonous loser. I never rooted for Bush to fail. I merely was unsurprised when he did.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-24-2009 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
unsurprised


That's great!!:$: :$:

Cannon Shell 01-24-2009 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Bush was (so glad I can finally use the past tense) a disgrace, so he deserves to be treated disgracefully.

Well I guess Bush wasn't "an amazing human being" like Obama is. I personally hope Obama is a good president and does great things for our country. But he is a politician who has not really done much other than get elected a few times which hardly qualifies you as great or amazing. The fawning is excessive but the mainstream media is not liberal right? Tuesdays coverage which was close to hysteria should end that debate.

Cannon Shell 01-24-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Anyone rooting for Obama to fail isn't an American, instead a treasonous loser.

Did you steal that quote from Dick Cheney? I know the voting thing is new to you but take it easy. Lest you forget Obama is still a politician, at least until he walks on water.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-24-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well I guess Bush wasn't "an amazing human being" like Obama is. I personally hope Obama is a good president and does great things for our country. But he is a politician who has not really done much other than get elected a few times which hardly qualifies you as great or amazing. The fawning is excessive but the mainstream media is not liberal right? Tuesdays coverage which was close to hysteria should end that debate.

Well said

:tro: :tro: :tro:

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-24-2009 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Did you steal that quote from Dick Cheney? I know the voting thing is new to you but take it easy. Lest you forget Obama is still a politician, at least until he walks on water.

And they are ALL the same....party DOESN'T matter!

ddthetide 01-24-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well I guess Bush wasn't "an amazing human being" like Obama is. I personally hope Obama is a good president and does great things for our country. But he is a politician who has not really done much other than get elected a few times which hardly qualifies you as great or amazing. The fawning is excessive but the mainstream media is not liberal right? Tuesdays coverage which was close to hysteria should end that debate.

THANK YOU !:tro:, add his supporters to that statement too.

pgardn 01-24-2009 09:31 AM

The fawning has occurred because people are
in shock that this country could actually elect a
black man.

Now its time to get down to work. The election is
over. So lets see who attempts to make things work,
or gum up a fresh face with a different approach.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-24-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well I guess Bush wasn't "an amazing human being"

Oh, hell yes he was amazing.


He was amazingly stupid.

Told everyone the economy was fine. Last July, he was telling the country the economy is just fine. We are so used to him being stupid that we didn't even get that upset when he told us the opposite (1 month later.) People were upset the economy was puke, but they were immune to the fact he had lied about it all year.

AeWingnut 01-24-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Thank ya. Anyone rooting for Obama to fail isn't an American, instead a treasonous loser. I never rooted for Bush to fail. I merely was unsurprised when he did.



funny... I thought dissent was patriotic

:rolleyes:

ateamstupid 01-24-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
funny... I thought dissent was patriotic

:rolleyes:

It's not "dissent" to root for your country to fail you f.ucking dumbass.

ateamstupid 01-24-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well I guess Bush wasn't "an amazing human being" like Obama is. I personally hope Obama is a good president and does great things for our country. But he is a politician who has not really done much other than get elected a few times which hardly qualifies you as great or amazing. The fawning is excessive but the mainstream media is not liberal right? Tuesdays coverage which was close to hysteria should end that debate.

The whole "mainstream media is liberal," "mainstream media is conservative" line of thinking is lazy, paranoid and moronic. The media is too large and amorphous to lean one way. If they do lean one way, it's toward whatever gets the best ratings/readership/listeners. For a while, the country as a whole leaned more conservative, so the media generally leaned in that direction too (let Bush slide on monumental screwups). Now that the country has shifted more toward the Democrats, the media is going nuts for Obama and MSNBC has become less bashful about its slant, as Fox News did during the early Bush years. I guarantee that as soon as Obama slips up, the right-wing section of the media will be heard from loud and clear once again.

witchdoctor 01-24-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Oh, hell yes he was amazing.


old everyone the economy was fine. Last July, he was telling the country the economy is just fine. We are so used to him being stupid that we didn't even get that upset when he told us the opposite (1 month later.) People were upset the economy was puke, but they were immune to the fact he had lied about it all year.

He was in good company. Barney Frank said the same thing in August.


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