Gulfstream Wednesday
 

Just going to bet the feature today, Sligovich, and I think the ml of 10-1 will hold

Sligovitz
 

I hope you are right about the m/l price holding on this one Mike.

Race 3 at GP
 

another that intrigues me is #5 Forever Gleaming (8-1) in Race 3. Not crazy about betting one first time vs winners, but turf may be this one's calling, price should be right and he's not facing a stellar field of 50 claimers. Also like Prado taking the call to ride.

IMO, Jet won't get an uncontested lead. I'll take a shot against a probably overbet Ruff & Ready off the layoff and the extreme outside post. And as for Mambo Meister, he'll get a class test here...at a m/l of 5-1 I'll pass. As for what I like about Sligovitz, in short...Lynch Lynch Lynch.

I agree w/Mambo. His last he broke as side ways as can be, ran up on other horses and was checked (while enjoying the rail) 1rst turn and came widest to try and close. The Pletch horse is 7 so can't improve IMO. Fingers crossed... And why can't racereplays cover Woodbine?

Who in here can run with Jet Propulsion early?

I just don't understand the playing against the outside post. Even after Sunday's races, the horses from post 8 and out are still winning 1 mile or 7 1/2 furlong turf races at around a 45% clip for the meet.

Gulfstream 1-21
 

leaving at 4a.m. so posting pre-scr's, Steve can put this thread under someone in a.m. good -luck

minus-$271 (2009)

2) $2 ex pw 5-6 / 3-4-8 lost

4) $2 ex box 7-8-9 scr 9 lost
5) $2 exbox 6-8-11 lost
8) $2ex pw 4-9/1-3-10 $10 win # 4 scr 10 lost



total bet $58 with scr's bet 46 lost 46 minus -$ 317 (2009)

imo I don't even think they will be trying with ruff&ready in this oc race. he will be a 2 off of lay-off bet in a stakes. I will be surprised if he wins but we'll see.

I don't see a standout here...I'd go w/Prado at a price on Hyracotherium.

i think the 4-9 are the stand-outs if r&r is just going to stretch his legs. sligovich has 1 second on turf but was can-breds i have him underneath.

I don't doubt he'll be on the lead, though I think Hellvelyn may make him work. Just the same he can fold the tent with an uncontested lead as he's shown in the past, i.e., two back vs Mambo Meister; I question his quality vs this group and he'll have to prove me wrong.

pp 1 ministers joy gets a look from me gets the best jock hes had and the rail/cuts back in dist and is good at gs the other one is 6 fair weather sun hes gonne be around the whole way..had trouble in last but has the backclass and nos to compete..

Fair pt but still too small a sampling to establish any meaningful trend. Not saying R&R can't win, but he'll likely have a wider journey and be forced to run more ground than rest of field; he'll have to be a couple of lengths better than these off the layoff to win IMO.

To each his own, but there have been 20 turf races so far for the meet at those 2 distances and 9 winners from post 8 and out equates to a meaningful enough trend for me.:)

Anyone think I'm koo koo for singling Aster in the 7th? I think his speed can overcome the post, much like the lack of speed will help Delightful Kiss overcome the wide draw.

the 3 archers can and may keep going

I can't quibble with sheer stats. IMO if R&R wins it'll be because he's simply better than the field and JR worked out a trip. There's no doubt in my mind that his job would be made alot easier if he were to have drawn better than post 11 in a mile race vs this caliber on the lawn at GP.

No chance in hell.

I don't think Hellvelyn wants any part of the front end. FWIW, Hurtak said that Jet Propulsion had a serious virus necessitating the nine-month layoff and lost 60 pounds before that start. Plus Mambo Meister just ran huge in there. My main concern with Jet Propulsion is his difficulty with running big races away from CRC.

yeah that 107 he was chasing in the ontario hcp was really turtle like..:zz:

So because he was 2 1/2 lengths off a 1:07 4/5 number in one sprint on a lightning fast Woodbine course, he can run with Jet Propulsion? It doesn't matter that he's only been closer than 4th at first or second call once in the last year despite contesting numerous slow-paced routes? This horse will be nowhere near Jet Propulsion tomorrow.

KMc's charge could well decide to take back off JP's pace (if he can rate) and pounce on him in lane...hard to tell...but to what numerous slow paced routes are you referring? It doesn't look like the horse has ever done anything but sprint 6 panels or less...

I thought he was talking about the 3 horse :zz:

my bad, he was.

I was..

one of the better turf jockeys is on zitos horse
too cool for school watch out

Main Track Only..

I think this race is going to fall apart...

Yes... on paper JetP is clearly the one to catch (and everyone... trainers included) knows this.... they cant let him have his way for a half and expect to pounce... 4 or 5 of them will apply steady pressure and are capable of doing so... The late closers will get their chance at the end... It is all going to depend on the trip...

Tosses for me.....

Ministers Joy... has lost a few steps... don't even think shug and lezcano can get the horse there against these... won't get first jump and too congested at the end to find a hole...

Fearless eagle.... layoff and has not faired well against jet or Ruff and has lost 3 times to FW-Stan

Hellvelyn.... Going farther than ever before will be around until the last 10 seconds...

Ruff ... off layoff???? when coming back from layoff last time... needed one
from the outside will extend too much energy to get in the pocket where best runs have come from... just don't see it...

at this point before scratches.....

playing a big tri box

4-5-6-9-10 $60 for each $1

Hellvelyn
 

they know Jet Propulsion is a little cheap.

Hellvelyn could maybe hassle him if he was pushed early, but that would be self destructive.

They're gonna let Jet Propulsion have his easy lead and wait for him to quit.

Hellvelyn could be anything, he should love a mile over here if they give him a good ride, mambo meister is maybe cheap but he is in good form, archers alyancer is a good longshot hate to see bravo aboard...

Must be a slow week..... for all this discussion on a claiming race on Wednesday....lol... it will be interesting.... but in a few hours... someone will be right and someone will be...... mistaken... note that Steve has the 4 M/L favs on his picks...

I'm playing my tri bet (real money) and hoping the board lights up..

Good luck to all that partake...

scratches knock out archers, cool coal, FW-Stan and sligo... $2 tri box 4,5,9,11

+$877.90 2009

GP Race 1 $1 EX 6,8/1,2,6,8,9 $8

GP Race 2 $1 pic 3 5/1,3,7,9/1,5 5/1,3,7,9/5 $3 win 7


$23 Bet

Late 4...$50 total...GL all!!

.50

5,8,9
8,12
4,8,9,11
2,4,8

$5

8
8,12
4
8

$4

8
12
4
8

OK I'm out

GP Race 8 $20 W/P 4

$63 total Bet

5th Ex 8-/5-10

R6 Ex 6/3-4

8th 2

That was a hell of a lot of pressure on Jet Propulsion. :p