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TheSpyder 01-15-2009 02:56 PM

US Airways plane down in Hudson River
 
Watching now on CNN live. Seems all in one piece and its on the surface. Throwing life jackets in with 4 ferrys all around it.

Flying from NYC to Charlotte. 100 people on board.

ddthetide 01-15-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Watching now on CNN live. Seems all in one piece and its on the surface. Throwing life jackets in with 4 ferrys all around it.

Flying from NYC to Charlotte. 100 people on board.

ALL 148 recused and 6 crew. props to the air-crew!

Danzig 01-15-2009 04:12 PM

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ALL 148 recused and 6 crew. props to the air-crew!

amazing that all on board are ok. great news!

jwkniska 01-15-2009 04:26 PM

pilot did an amazing job keeping the plane in 1 piece and to keep from it flipping when it hit. I'd say they're due a pretty good size bonus for that one.

Never heard of both engines going out on an A320 before. Flown on them dozens and dozens of times and been thru cockpit before... basically whole plane's flown with a joystick from a video game.

SniperSB23 01-15-2009 04:31 PM

Birds are out of control here in Albany, never seen it like this. The trees in the State Campus are all covered in them. They must be all messed up by the extreme cold and trying to get further south.

ddthetide 01-15-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
pilot did an amazing job keeping the plane in 1 piece and to keep from it flipping when it hit. I'd say they're due a pretty good size bonus for that one.

Never heard of both engines going out on an A320 before. Flown on them dozens and dozens of times and been thru cockpit before... basically whole plane's flown with a joystick from a video game.

crews deserves a freaking medal!! presser coming up and MSNBC reporting the pilot is to be there!:tro:

Danzig 01-15-2009 04:45 PM

and now this story will be beaten TO DEATH by the news stations. at least families will be spared the oh so wonderful 'how do you feel' when they find a family member passed...

MaTH716 01-15-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
and now this story will be beaten TO DEATH by the news stations. at least families will be spared the oh so wonderful 'how do you feel' when they find a family member passed...

I am ok with that. This crew, passangers and rescue crews all deserve to be lauded. Think about the death and devestation that is usually linked with plane crashes. It's great that this near tragedy has a happy ending. It's nice to have a positive story with all the negative crap going around. Besides they will only be able to beat it to death for so long. Somebody new is moving into the White House. Remember all the coverage for 2 black coaches in the Super Bowl? This is slightly bigger.

jwkniska 01-15-2009 05:39 PM

just said that the pilot's a former F-4 pilot and that he said it was a multiple bird strike.

not only was he an F-4 pilot, but was a commander at red flag. That would be the equivalent of being the commander from the movie top gun.... best we've got in the air force.

Danzig 01-15-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I am ok with that. This crew, passangers and rescue crews all deserve to be lauded. Think about the death and devestation that is usually linked with plane crashes. It's great that this near tragedy has a happy ending. It's nice to have a positive story with all the negative crap going around. Besides they will only be able to beat it to death for so long. Somebody new is moving into the White House. Remember all the coverage for 2 black coaches in the Super Bowl? This is slightly bigger.

thing is, i don't mind actual news-if they have something to add, fine. it's all the time that they feel they have to fill with speculation while waiting for something concrete to tell us.

SOREHOOF 01-15-2009 06:11 PM

Whatta Ride!!!

SOREHOOF 01-15-2009 06:12 PM

It's reported no one was killed.

ninetoone 01-15-2009 09:20 PM

Anyone interested in hearing some of the FDNY's radio traffic following the crash can check it out here:

http://newyork.ny.scanamerica.us/LibraryArticle136.html

GBBob 01-15-2009 09:37 PM

I guess this qualifies as an air crash Red Board, but my partner ( business you pervs) had a friend on the flight and he spoke with him about an hour after. I had told Patrick about the crash and he knew Pat (Patrick's friend)fom NY and was worried. Called and left a VM saying glad your phone is ringing, but please let me know you are not on this flight. About 45 Min later Pat calls Patrick.."I just got off the wing, all I have is my phone, my wife is crying ( and he was too)...got your message and holy sh.it"..

Said he was up front and heard loud bang and then the pilot came on and said they were making a sharp left turn and that there would be a rapid descend. Then said to brace as he had lost control and would try and make a water landing. Mostly silence but many prayers. A big impact and then people going nuts. It started out orderly but then water was rising and it was crazy. Pat said he climbed over seats to get to the escape hatch but there were many people in the water or on the wing.

He's on Amtrak tomorrow home

herkhorse 01-15-2009 09:40 PM

how many of those people will never fly again?

mclem0822 01-15-2009 10:38 PM

Wild story......
 
Amazing job by the pilot, and he walked the length of the plane like 3 times to make sure everyone got off safe. He's a true hero in my book!

skippy3481 01-15-2009 11:14 PM

It wasn't a just a multiple bird strike, he ingested a whole flock. I've seen serveral engine tests in person when they have tested shooting frozen birds into the engine. It was either some big ass birds or a great number of them. Nice job by the crew.

Cannon Shell 01-15-2009 11:48 PM

PETA to protest US Air for cruelty to birds and demand that LaGuardia be closed to save the surviving members of the flock

TheSpyder 01-16-2009 07:45 AM

Are they planning on dressing up like geese and protest marching at the airport? god, I wish they would! A live feed from that would be fantastic.

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PETA to protest US Air for cruelty to birds and demand that LaGuardia be closed to save the surviving members of the flock


gales0678 01-16-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822
Amazing job by the pilot, and he walked the length of the plane like 3 times to make sure everyone got off safe. He's a true hero in my book!


no question the pilot deserves a medal

it will be interesting to hear the black box and see if the crew thought about trying to land at nearby Tetaboro Airport , they must have thought they were going down fast and weren't going to make it

For those of you not in the tri state area - tetaboro is in NJ just north of the meadowlands

MaTH716 01-16-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
no question the pilot deserves a medal

it will be interesting to hear the black box and see if the crew thought about trying to land at nearby Tetaboro Airport , they must have thought they were going down fast and weren't going to make it

For those of you not in the tri state area - tetaboro is in NJ just north of the meadowlands

I think that was an idea but it was scapped rather quickly. The thing I find amazing is that they only cleared the GW bridge by about 1000 feet. Thank God everything turned out right. Once again a tremendous job by the pilot and crew!

GBBob 01-16-2009 10:21 AM

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I think that was an idea but it was scapped rather quickly. The thing I find amazing is that they only cleared the GW bridge by about 1000 feet. Thank God everything turned out right. Once again a tremendous job by the pilot and crew!

As of a few hours ago, they hadn't found the black box yet. Ironic when a plan lands relatively intact they can't find it, but when the poor SOBs crash into a mountain, they get it right away.

I guess it has a pinging device/tracking..right?

MaTH716 01-16-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
As of a few hours ago, they hadn't found the black box yet. Ironic when a plan lands relatively intact they can't find it, but when the poor SOBs crash into a mountain, they get it right away.

I guess it has a pinging device/tracking..right?

I believe it has some sort of tracking device on it. I'm guessing that there isn't the usually frantic rush on getting the black box based on the available facts. Plus they know where it is, it is just a matter of retrieving it.

jwkniska 01-16-2009 11:03 AM

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I guess it has a pinging device/tracking..right?

it does have a pinging device to track it. if it's still in the plane, then will be in the part of it submerged in the river (as of last pics I saw last night). probably wait until they pull the plane from the water to get it instead of trying to send a diver in to take it out.

ddthetide 01-16-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
it does have a pinging device to track it. if it's still in the plane, then will be in the part of it submerged in the river (as of last pics I saw last night). probably wait until they pull the plane from the water to get it instead of trying to send a diver in to take it out.

who would REALLY want to put divers in the water today if they don't absolutely have too.:zz:

jwkniska 01-16-2009 11:20 AM

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who would REALLY want to put divers in the water today if they don't absolutely have too.:zz:

I wouldn't.

GPK 01-16-2009 02:25 PM

Interesting...left engine is missing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/ny...d.html?_r=1&hp

Bigsmc 01-16-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Interesting...left engine is missing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/ny...d.html?_r=1&hp

Probably ripped off when they hit the water.

GPK 01-16-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Probably ripped off when they hit the water.


Now they are saying both are missing.

timmgirvan 01-16-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Now they are saying both are missing.


was this on the New Jersey side?:eek:

ddthetide 01-16-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Now they are saying both are missing.

i would think they will be easy to find. water temp will make recovery difficult.

TheSpyder 01-16-2009 04:17 PM

The way people go after scrap metal, they may already be recovered and sold in a dark alley in NJ

declansharbor 01-16-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Now they are saying both are missing.

It says that its common for engines that are underneath the wings to detach. They'll find them.


...but they better hurry. A few of the best scrappers (Hentz) in this neighborhood just purchased some scuba gear. :rolleyes:

timmgirvan 01-16-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
The way people go after scrap metal, they may already be recovered and sold in a dark alley in NJ

my thinking exactly

GPK 01-16-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
It says that its common for engines that are underneath the wings to detach. They'll find them.


...but they better hurry. A few of the best scrappers (Hentz) in this neighborhood just purchased some scuba gear. :rolleyes:


This is the idiot coming out in me, but how much of it would be salvagable?

declansharbor 01-16-2009 04:41 PM

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This is the idiot coming out in me, but how much of it would be salvagable?

Not my area of expertise either, but I would have to say the engine itself and the propellers would be the stuff of worth. Or sell it wholesale to some history buff.

To answer your question, I haven't a clue. :D

GBBob 01-16-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Not my area of expertise either, but I would have to say the engine itself and the propellers would be the stuff of worth. Or sell it wholesale to some history buff.

To answer your question, I haven't a clue. :D

Gotta' clean all the goose innards out first

jwkniska 01-16-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
It says that its common for engines that are underneath the wings to detach.

they were also the first parts of the plane to hit the water, so took the brunt of the impact. I know of someone that took off from O'Hare on their way to Narita on a 747 in which 1 engine fell off over Iowa. Had to go back to O'Hare, but made it back easily.

jwkniska 01-16-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Not my area of expertise either, but I would have to say the engine itself and the propellers would be the stuff of worth. Or sell it wholesale to some history buff.

To answer your question, I haven't a clue. :D

propeller blades are custom for each engine (saw a history/science channel documentary on building them), so wouldn't be reusable according to that.

TheSpyder 01-16-2009 05:00 PM

Hey..you get a free frozen dinner with each jet!
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Gotta' clean all the goose innards out first



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