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Cannon Shell 12-09-2008 06:14 PM

K Rod to the Metropolitans
 
3 years $37 million

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...2008&fext=.jsp

Cannon Shell 12-09-2008 06:16 PM

Wood maybe to Cleveland. 2 years with option. Good deal for indians. Lewis and Wood give them a pretty salty 8th and 9th innings.

Cannon Shell 12-09-2008 06:19 PM

Ramon hernandez to Reds.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...2008&fext=.jsp

Maybe Weinters gets a chance to make O's team in spring training? Hate to see Freel go as he was a fun player to watch but his game is all legs and hamstring tears are scary. I dont think either of the prospects to the O's are highly rated.

declansharbor 12-09-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Whats the deal with Wagner? Dunzo or relegated to another role?

BTW, great move by the Metsies. Obviously.

MaTH716 12-09-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Whats the deal with Wagner? Dunzo or relegated to another role?

BTW, great move by the Metsies. Obviously.

Done for at least this year, and his days as a Met are probably over.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2008 07:28 PM

Game 4 wasn't enough pain for the Dodgers to get a closer huh? Dumb fkn pasta-eating moron.

MaTH716 12-09-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Game 4 wasn't enough pain for the Dodgers to get a closer huh? Dumb fkn pasta-eating moron.

There's still a few available. K-Rod was unbelievable last year, but I just get the feeling that the Mets bought the top here. He is a huge upgrade, but they still have some other holes to fill.

Stickhorse 12-09-2008 08:02 PM

KRod made $10M last year and Billy Wags $10.5M

Now $37M for three years .

Let's see if the bad economy continues to impact baseball salaries so severely:rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
There's still a few available. K-Rod was unbelievable last year, but I just get the feeling that the Mets bought the top here. He is a huge upgrade, but they still have some other holes to fill.

I can't think of many worse things for a baseball team than losing leads late. People sure overthink stuff a lot in this game. You know what? Anybody got the damn video of the playoffs. Take a look n' you will see this fat boy on an underdog team blowing the Cubs away to take the 1st round. Then(when expected to have a decent chance,) when not such a big longshot, watch the same fatboy get tight against the Phils. That's not an aberration. Mentally he is zero, nothing (oh so hollow.) Same as Billingsley. It's like they have the same retarded mother. He really gunna go into the new season with that to close games with? I mean really. You gunna really have 56k people at Dodger stadium waiting to see which fat boy shows up? You have not seen the last of the fat boy who loses his command, and then throws slowly down the middle of the plate. If he gets tight, he can't blow people away. He can't throw it fast,then. If he does, then it will be way outside. They know what they've got. If they have that to close games with, then it's gunna be a real long painful year.

declansharbor 12-09-2008 09:08 PM

I'm going to flip wig if the Phils trade young arm J.A. Happ to the Cubs for Derosa like whats been rumored.:mad:

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 08:49 AM

K-Rod is on the decline but even declining he should still be pretty good for the next three years. I'd like to see them package Heilman to Colorado to get Street. If something happened to K-Rod then I'd feel a lot better about Street stepping in. Plus while both are healthy it is a nice 1-2 punch at the end of games.

I'm completely and totally underwhelmed by the starters out there. Lowe seems the best bet but it sounds like he's looking for more money and years than he is worth. Sabathia is getting way too much money, Sheets and Burnett are too injury prone, Perez is too inconsistent. Would love to see them go after Sonnanstine in a trade if the price isn't too high.

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
K-Rod is on the decline but even declining he should still be pretty good for the next three years. I'd like to see them package Heilman to Colorado to get Street. If something happened to K-Rod then I'd feel a lot better about Street stepping in. Plus while both are healthy it is a nice 1-2 punch at the end of games.

I'm completely and totally underwhelmed by the starters out there. Lowe seems the best bet but it sounds like he's looking for more money and years than he is worth. Sabathia is getting way too much money, Sheets and Burnett are too injury prone, Perez is too inconsistent. Would love to see them go after Sonnanstine in a trade if the price isn't too high.

Street for Heilman aint gonna happen. I agree that the starters are really shaky. I would take a flyer with Brad Penny if he checks out healthwise and is willing to take a short term deal. He can be a solid number 2 if he is right. I dont think that Sonnanstine will ever be much more than a number 5 starter.

ateamstupid 12-10-2008 10:08 AM

Mets need way more than just a closer in that bullpen.

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Mets need way more than just a closer in that bullpen.

That is true

Brandon Lyon would be a good pickup if he doesnt want stupid money

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 10:19 AM

Juan Cruz and Trever miller would also be upgrades to the Mets. Saito may be released by the Dodgers and would be another possibility though he is an injury risk. there are lots of servicable RP's out there and with the economy being what it is these are the types of guys who are going to have to be realistic about what they ask for. There are also several japanese vet's that have made themselves eligible for bids.

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Street for Heilman aint gonna happen. I agree that the starters are really shaky. I would take a flyer with Brad Penny if he checks out healthwise and is willing to take a short term deal. He can be a solid number 2 if he is right. I dont think that Sonnanstine will ever be much more than a number 5 starter.

Street for Heilman won't happen straight up but there are talks ongoing for a deal involving them.

Sonnanstine is still young, doesn't allow a lot of baserunners and should benefit moving to the National League. I think he can be a very effective #4 and potentially develop into more which is all they need right now. I'd even take a flyer on Edwin Jackson if Tampa decides the price for Sonnanstine is too high. I think Penny is probably done but would be a nice guy to bring in on a minor league deal if there is no other interest in him. Any time you are on the 60 day DL with "right shoulder soreness" it is never a good sign.

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Juan Cruz and Trever miller would also be upgrades to the Mets. Saito may be released by the Dodgers and would be another possibility though he is an injury risk. there are lots of servicable RP's out there and with the economy being what it is these are the types of guys who are going to have to be realistic about what they ask for. There are also several japanese vet's that have made themselves eligible for bids.

Like Cruz but he's Type A which means giving up a first rounder to sign him. Whether or not he is worth that I'm not sure of, depends what else they need to give with Heilman to get Street.

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Street for Heilman won't happen straight up but there are talks ongoing for a deal involving them.

Sonnanstine is still young, doesn't allow a lot of baserunners and should benefit moving to the National League. I think he can be a very effective #4 and potentially develop into more which is all they need right now. I'd even take a flyer on Edwin Jackson if Tampa decides the price for Sonnanstine is too high. I think Penny is probably done but would be a nice guy to bring in on a minor league deal if there is no other interest in him. Any time you are on the 60 day DL with "right shoulder soreness" it is never a good sign.

I just dont see Colorado trading Street now. It makes no sense for them unless they are getting a top prospect. I think it is bs. Sonnanstine is far too hittable to ever be much more than a number 5.

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Like Cruz but he's Type A which means giving up a first rounder to sign him. Whether or not he is worth that I'm not sure of, depends what else they need to give with Heilman to get Street.

I would love to know how Cruz is a type A.

MaTH716 12-10-2008 10:41 AM

The good thing about Cruz is that he strikes people out. Really besides Wagner they have/had no one who can get outs like that.

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I just dont see Colorado trading Street now. It makes no sense for them unless they are getting a top prospect. I think it is bs. Sonnanstine is far too hittable to ever be much more than a number 5.

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/teams/players/...mlb-devil_rays

Sonnanstine wasn't as hittable in the minors and I think the hits will drop as he goes into his third season and with a move to the NL. In Citifield or whatever it is going to be called he'll be a 4.00 ERA guy with a 1.19 WHIP which should do quite well as a #4. Interesting sidenote, he's 4 for 10 batting lifetime which is more reason to get to the NL.

No clue how Cruz is Type A either. Interestingly Lyon is only a Type B so wouldn't cost the Mets a first round pick.

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 11:02 AM

Rumor is the offer on the table was Heilman and Feliciano for Street and the Mets have pulled it. Don't know why Omar got cold feet on that one with how bad those two were last year.

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Rumor is the offer on the table was Heilman and Feliciano for Street and the Mets have pulled it. Don't know why Omar got cold feet on that one with how bad those two were last year.

I dont believe that the Rockies would do it. I think it is a ploy by Minaya to try to force someone they are interested in to do something

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/teams/players/...mlb-devil_rays

Sonnanstine wasn't as hittable in the minors and I think the hits will drop as he goes into his third season and with a move to the NL. In Citifield or whatever it is going to be called he'll be a 4.00 ERA guy with a 1.19 WHIP which should do quite well as a #4. Interesting sidenote, he's 4 for 10 batting lifetime which is more reason to get to the NL.

No clue how Cruz is Type A either. Interestingly Lyon is only a Type B so wouldn't cost the Mets a first round pick.

Russ Springer is a type A too. the rule is a bad one for RP's because a non closer is rarely ever worth a number 1 pick.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-10-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I would take a flyer with Brad Penny if he checks out healthwise and is willing to take a short term deal.

Wow, I can't see the 1st part happening. He's been half throwing/half shot putting for a while. He's pretty f'd up. I guess his shoulder must be pretty damn toasted. Watch him pitch. He's pushing the ball to the plate. It's like some weird new game from the other side of the world. Some whammo-designed game. Push it, and aim it (and follow through a long time.)

SniperSB23 12-10-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont believe that the Rockies would do it. I think it is a ploy by Minaya to try to force someone they are interested in to do something

My guess is the Rockies were desperate for a lefty in the bullpen so were considering the deal to get Feliciano but then news broke they signed Embree and Minaya pulled the offer off the table to save face knowing they would no longer consider the deal.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-10-2008 11:31 AM

baseball sucks

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Wow, I can't see the 1st part happening. He's been half throwing/half shot putting for a while. He's pretty f'd up. I guess his shoulder must be pretty damn toasted. Watch him pitch. He's pushing the ball to the plate. It's like some weird new game from the other side of the world. Some whammo-designed game. Push it, and aim it (and follow through a long time.)

Juice him up!

Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
baseball sucks


Cannon Shell 12-10-2008 05:53 PM

5:05 p.m. — Mets' trade offer shot down
The Mets, seeking a setup man for new closer Francisco Rodriguez, were rebuffed in their attempt to trade right Aaron Heilman to the Rockies for righty Huston Street.

Heilman has drawn interest from more than a dozen clubs. The Mets turned down the Cubs' offer of righty Jason Marquis. It seems inevitable, however, that the Mets will find a match.

Street, too, has drawn interest from numerous clubs. The Rockies have yet to receive a tempting offer.


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8...-meetings-blog

SCUDSBROTHER 04-18-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Wow, I can't see the 1st part happening. He's been half throwing/half shot putting for a while. He's pretty f'd up. I guess his shoulder must be pretty damn toasted. Watch him pitch. He's pushing the ball to the plate. It's like some weird new game from the other side of the world. Some whammo-designed game. Push it, and aim it (and follow through a long time.)


E.R.A. =11.0

Don't you think we'd of signed him if he had any shot?


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