here is what the bcs has given us
 

5 games
3 with 10 point spreads
1 that noone cares about
and a championship game with a 71 point total

yeah this works

where you seeing lines?

blocked at work, can you post?

251 penn state 46 45 off off off
252 usc -10.5 -01 -10 -05
01/01/2009 8:15 PM EST
253 virginia tech 41 41 off off off
254 cincinnati u -2 -05 -2 +02
01/02/2009 2:00 PM EST
255 mississippi off off off
256 texas tech
01/02/2009 5:00 PM EST
257 east carolina off off off
258 kentucky
01/02/2009 8:15 PM EST
259 utah 45 45 off off off
260 alabama -11 -05 -11 +16
01/03/2009 12:00 PM EST
261 buffalo u off off off
262 connecticut
01/05/2009 8:15 PM EST
263 ohio state 54 54u12 off off off
264 texas -10.5 -05 -10 -05
01/06/2009 8:00 PM EST
265 ball state off off off
266 tulsa
01/08/2009 8:15 PM EST
267 florida -3 -05 -3 -3 -12 off off off
268 oklahoma 71.5 72 72.5

Thank you

Yeah, there's something seriously wrong with a system that has the best team in the country (USC) sitting at home on Jan 8.

What is this women's gymnastics ... or college football???


Until these nitwits get a playoff system is in place, the whole thing is an absolute joke...

Just think, they SPEND time & :$: coming up with this BCS,,, Be glad they dont throw darts @ a dartboard !

I think the BCS games are good.

Thinking about it I would have rather seen the following:

Texas v. Alabama
Oklahoma v. Florida (no change)
USC v. Texas Tech
Utah v. Penn. St.

rest dont care.

And yes I realize it we would not be allowed to see 3 Big 12 teams.

Whats the over/under on amount of years it takes for the people in charge to wake the phuck up and implement a playoff scenario??

6yrs

Something like that or longer.
I think they got some rule in it remains till 2013
You were probably referring to that...

They have a contract with Espn through 2013 and ABC does 2014. I think a playoff could be worked out in conjunction with BCS but it will take some tinkering.

Im not holding my breathe.

Trying to remember what it was like before the BCS, just thinking of the major bowls and how it may have looked this year:

Rose: USC vs. Penn St.
Sugar: Florida vs. Texas
Orange: Oklahoma vs. Alabama
Fiesta: Utah vs. Ohio St.

I have to say the BCS comes out a little better this year.

I don't think anyone would say the BCS is not an improvement over the old system. However, it is just a tiny baby step in the right direction.

before the Bcs and the B12. the cotton bowl was the fifth major bowl. that would have taken a SWC team (texas, tt). OU would have been the B8 winner and off to the orange bowl. fla-sugar, rose p10-b10, fiesta got it's choice of second place teams usually b8 (okst) and ? Bama would have had it's choice orange, cotton, fiesta. fiesta not tied to a conference always ended up with the best game. utah and boise had NO shot at a NY day's game.

probably longer. college ball has never been so popular. unless they saw a serious drop off in fan interest, i doubt they change.

I would love to see Texas vs Alabama also (Bama would crush em')

USC would kill tech also...

The Big 12 would finally have to play teams with a......... DEFENSE!!

Tech & USC would be a blowout... much better with USC and Penn State.

They need to place the Big 12 teams against schools with no D so they can look good..

Poor matchups
 

THe odds say it all. Just too many double digit favorites.

BUT

Taking the big underdog in the big bowls has often been profitable because the favs get overconfident. There will be upsets.

I'm a Trojan fan and I see a real danger in one too many trips to Pasadena for USC and possibly not being as razor sharp for this edition of the Rose Bowl as they should be.

I'm not a Trojan fan, but based on what they did to Ohio State and what PSU didn't do to OSU, I don't know how you can't lay the 10.

hopefully an unfounded fear....
 

Pete Carroll has been a fantastic coach. His squad is always ready to play. The evidence of that is that after year one I don't think his team has ever lost by more than a TD.

My concern is that usually in the past the Trojans knew a win in their bowl would give them some sort of claim as #1. This year there is no way that can happen. I see them defeating the Nittany Lions but it could be a closer game than I would hope, simply because Penn St. will play their best game and USC might not.

Joe Pa is an excellent at getting his teams ready for bowls.

don't forget that usc is losing their OC and that offense has struggled at times. this can't help.

I'm thinking that line floats upwards though come kickoff. Could see it from 13-15 IMO, but what do I know?

It's always a mistake to compare games like that. Look at what Texas Tech did to Texas and what Texas did to Oklahoma...how'd that work out for T Tech against Oklahoma?? Remember, OSU's best player did not play a snap at USC (Beanie Wells) and it was Pryor's first game playing major minutes and they had the brilliant idea of alternating plays every play with Pryor and Boeckman. OSU was a much better team when they played PSU. I don't put a whole lot of stock into USC beating OSU worse than PSU did, nor put much stock into PSU beating Oregon State much worse than USC did...actually USC didn't even beat Oregon State did they!!! So based on the OSU game, USC is 25 points better than PSU and based on the Oregon State game PSU is 37 points better than USC.

It's a waste of time to compare scores of common opponents when one plays at home and one on the road and certain players play or don't play etc...it's meaningless.

I think the line is probably about right and there would be sense in picking either team.

Well, not long now till the nation's premier college football team is back in action.



Looking forward to another comfortable bowl victory over a very fine, albeit overmatched, PSU Nittany Lions squad... :cool:

You're right. January 8 is going to be awesome.

you're right Bigs (swallowing hard) the gators are very impressive.

Your cleverness can't hide the TRUTH, Bigmac...



Southern Cal Trojans RULE! :cool:

Havili is out for academic reasons! WTF?? Please tell me why a guy with that much on the line can't hit the books for a bit to stay out of trouble??
He really did a fine job running and catching the ball out of the backfield

bcs has given us.......
 

......teams that had NO business getting bowl bids @ 7-5 or 6-6 and/or teams that haven't shown up. GT practiced for 3 weeks and didn't bother to show up for the game last night.:wf

my father in law complained the other day (he's an arkansas fan) about lsu getting a bowl, that there are 'too many of the damned things'...funny, i don't recall him bitching when arkansas got that vegas bowl a few years back....he didn't seem to appreciate me saying so either.
whether they should have gotten a bid, i enjoyed watching the tigers play-and look forward to next year, with a more mature jordan jefferson at the helm. so....whether they deserved it or not, i was happy to catch them in action one more time before next fall. sue me. :)

is it me or is this group of New Years day bowl games the most uninteresting you have ever seen? Outside of the Rose Bowl I have very little interest in any of them.

cincy/v tech seems like a yawner....i'm also very interested in the psu/usc game...that's about it.

No way Beanie not playing mattered.
Ohio St. was crushed. Beanie would have been stuffed
just like their other running backs. The game was a blowout.

And making a 3 way comparison is not valid except your assessment of the Texas, TT, Oklahoma games are way off. If anyone really believes TT is a better team than Texas, the head needs to be examined. Texas played their worst game of the season and lost because a freshman DB dropped a lob interception. TT scored on the last play of the game to win at home. They dont win big games away in the Big 12. Oklahoma and Texas played a close game that got away at the end. TT is just not that good.

That was a grim performance.

Jefferson had a great game....will be fun to watch next year!

And we have to remember that the bowls help make cash for the conferences
and keep the majority of college football junkies like me happy:D

I was just going to post the same and think the ratings will bear this out perhaps this apathy on new years day is the first of the necessary set backs for the bucks of college football that will finally move a limited tourney toward reality

I'll 2nd it too. Rose only one worth watching (although the MSU-GA game's tied at end of 1st quarter).

south carolina just put on an embarrassing display too.:wf

ratings will be better than you think based on the last week.colin cowherd was readin the tv rating for bowl week so far. 5 of the top 8 have been bowl games. one game got a 5 which was higher than the world series and the nba any night.

i agree most of the match-up are uninteresting. i'm a college football junkie and i'm more disgusted by the piss-poor play! lsu has been the best looking team i've seen so far.