Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

I would'nt hold your breath on cashing any of those tickets unless on perhaps in the 9th race :rolleyes: Good Luck none-the-less :)

Originally Posted by sdjcom

you are probably right however I just need to hit a couple at a good price because I mostly bet wps and occasional exacta, good luck to you,

Originally Posted by Kasept

I erased one ridiculous post from this thread already.

To the point, sdj has several interesting horses on his list that are live. I'll say here that $2 ATB on all his horses will return above the $66 it will cost. The horses below all have various appeal as board hit possibles and/or longshot winners..

If you don't swing with horses like some of these types, you will never have a big Breeders Cup.

race 1 6 zappa
race 2 10 cal flag
race 3 7 albertus max
race 4 1 shakis
race 5 8 azul leon
race 6 12 grand adventure
race 7 8 sing baby sing
race 8 2 red rocks
race 9 9 curlin
race 10 11 kool comic
race 11 6 madeo

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Did your nose grow while you wrote that?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

My favorite swing of his is Curlin. Batting practice I assume....or just a " I need cab fare home " after betting the likes of California Flag, Shakis, Azul Leon, Sing Baby Sing ( snicker ) and Red Rocks?

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I usally don't bet real short price horses however, This is BC and hope curlin wins. I'll stick him top and bottom with a couple of bombs to try and hit decent exacta, and enjoy the race. I don't bet 11 races on any card except BC it's more of an fun day than trying to swing for the fence.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why, if you don't mind, do you like the horses you listed?

Originally Posted by Kasept

;)

Originally Posted by sdjcom

that's the first fair and intelligent question i've received thx
well if you look you see I,ve pick horses who have run well at dmr hol osa, such as zappa cal flag, or at woodbime on syn trk. Now red rocks is a euro however he ran here and beat curlin on grass this summer. also horses who ran well at kee on syn trk. I don't spent time on Euros becuse no pace line for me to evaluate. Now I first eliminate horses on a few factors and if no pace line to compare what's left i throw them out. On any other day of year i would pass races with no pace lines, however this is BC and I will have fun and bet every race.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I agree in your analysis however i don't get to much into the trip and detail handicapping, because I
don't get to watch to many races and have the time. I,m an otr trk driver and stay out 2-3 weeks at a time then come home for 4 days. I do have a lap top with me at alltimes with wi-fi and try to keep up. So i'm lazy and load info into my horse program and take results and try to pick overlays. It's a hobby and labor of love but I do all right for a part timer

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's great. Thanks.

I do wonder, however, given what you just said, how you think it's OK to do the enormous amount of lecturing you have done on this site. I just assumed you were doing it from more of a position of strength.

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Hello, Horseplayers
Why Is It Every, Horse Handicapper,pro Or Just A
Week-end Player,not A Vocation Two Them, Hooked On This Madd-
Ening Trend Towards Pick 4 Pick 6 Hi 5, Exotics? I Remember The
Basic Drf Form From The 1970,s Where What You Had Was Basic In- Fo And You Used Your Art Form Of How A Horse Was Coming Into A
Race, Speed Rate Variant Purse, And And Position. Now We All
Know That If You Play A Horse That Is Outclassed,wrong Distance
Or Carrying To Much Weight For His Ability That Is Your Fault.
However Form Can Be Fickle And Not Your Fault
Somedays The Horse Just Does,nt Feel Giving His Best, Maybe His
Planets Are Out Of Line, Ha! Now The Form Has All Of This Off
Track Stats, Trainers/jockey Stats And A Host Of Others. I Listen
To The Pros And They Now With This Worthless Info They Find
Something Good About Every Horse In The Race. Back To The Ex-
Otics,now They Are Are Picking 4-5 Horses To Spread And When
They Lose The Bet, They Will Say Did,nt I Talk About That 15- 1
Winner? Well They Touted Every Horse In The Race Go Figure.
I,ve Watched Good Art-form Handicappers Who
Were Selective And Money Managers, Go To This Spreading Of
Bets In Exotics, They Now Have No Confidence In Their Single
Overlay Play, Through The Unplayable Races In Exotis They Have Picked Up Bad Habits, But The Saddest Of All They Have Lost The
Art-form. Know What,s Guys Are Asking Me Who I Like In These
Races That Only God Could Pick, They Were Pitch Races In An
Era Long Gone, Who Do I Like In That Maiden Clm, You Got To Be Kidding Me Sdj-ky

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......







Best of luck tomorrow.

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I was posting a general opinion on many of my beliefs not a personal attack toward anyone specific, if anyone took it that way then I was wrong. however I did walk into the room and make an impression, now I don't expect you or any one to like me but I do expect to be talked to like a human being like i talk to most others unless they get smart wth the nam calling. For instance I made the comment on the Euros, well what a mistake that was. Not one person ask me why, instead they started the name calling like idiot and so on.

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Originally Posted by Handicappy

If you put a horse up there that a select group of guys on this blog don't have, you'll be nailed. They won't ask you what your reasoning is for a certain horse, some just assume a position of "I know best" and attempt to discredit you.

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Awesome. That must make handicapping easier. Just draw a line through any horse that has not run in NA. I'll have to try that to streamline my process.

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

This is completely wrong. Putting up a list of horses with no explanation or reasoning and having no history of picking winners will get you nailed. An intelligent post with reasons for your picks will not get you nailed. There are some incredibly great handicappers here. If one of them questions your picks, I would advise having an intelligent conversation with that person and you may learn something. I know I have seen certain people's opinions here and have gone back and reassessed races. They may have seen something in their research that you completely missed. Hanging on to your picks like they are the last morsel of food on earth and snarling like a dog at anybody that disagrees with them, will get you nailed. Posting your locks before the race is drawn will get you nailed.

It is like a locker room but you can earn respect by treating others with respect. Ignore the taunts.

Another piece of advice. If you start a thread posting your picks, starting another thread to taunt others (or pat yourself on the back) because your original thread was correct, is going to open the floodgates.

If you are going to post names or numbers, there is usually a daily thread for the major tracks to post your plays.

Peace
Phils in 5

Originally Posted by sdjcom

This blog has a selection thread, I will post my selections like anyone else. I,m not as well versed, knowledgeble, as many on this blog, if my picks do not interest anyone then they can scroll pass my posts It's more of an intertainment move than trying to say or impress anyone. This is a blog for anyone pro or novice.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is a message board.....not a blog. Why is that so hard?

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I don't know what the difference is can you explain?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Never mistaken for journalism.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

There is great handicapping discussion conducted here daily, so all of this "no one wants to listen to any picks other than their own" is petulant nonsense.