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hoovesupsideyourhead 09-30-2008 07:20 AM

nfl injurys
 
man running backs are dropping like torn tickets at suffolk downs..

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 08:58 AM

The Rashard Mendenhall fractured shoulder had to be the most predictable of the weekend. Don't text your buddy with the Ravens how you are going to run all over them and then expect to come out alive.

Danzig 09-30-2008 09:22 AM

steelers down, literally, to the last man. mendenhall has a fractured shoulder, done for the year.

jwkniska 09-30-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
steelers down, literally, to the last man. mendenhall has a fractured shoulder, done for the year.

there's your solution as to who St Louis can trade Jackson to..... Pittsburgh needs a RB.

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 09:30 AM

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there's your solution as to who St Louis can trade Jackson to..... Pittsburgh needs a RB.

Would be a hell of a lot easier to just sign Shaun Alexander to fill in for a week or two before Willie Parker is back. I don't see Jackson going anywhere until the offseason when he'll inevitably holdout again.

Danzig 09-30-2008 09:49 AM

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Would be a hell of a lot easier to just sign Shaun Alexander to fill in for a week or two before Willie Parker is back. I don't see Jackson going anywhere until the offseason when he'll inevitably holdout again.

good idea.

ddthetide 09-30-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
steelers down, literally, to the last man. mendenhall has a fractured shoulder, done for the year.

lost an O-linemen too. the line play is bad enough.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Would be a hell of a lot easier to just sign Shaun Alexander to fill in for a week or two before Willie Parker is back. I don't see Jackson going anywhere until the offseason when he'll inevitably holdout again.

Pittsburgh's offense has changed so much. We remember them for what they have been over the years and especially during their recent superbowl run. Its not just line play-its philosophy.

Shawn Alexander is a one dimensional back that lost his step. Pitt would be better off with mewelde moore.

ddthetide 09-30-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
there's your solution as to who St Louis can trade Jackson to..... Pittsburgh needs a RB.

he'd be a great steeler and fit perfectly. would also be a great change from wille but the steelers don't have anything to trade without hurting themselves.

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Pittsburgh's offense has changed so much. We remember them for what they have been over the years and especially during their recent superbowl run. Its not just line play-its philosophy.

Shawn Alexander is a one dimensional back that lost his step. Pitt would be better off with mewelde moore.

Actually, they'd be better off with both.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 10:46 AM

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Actually, they'd be better off with both.

Alexander is done snipe. He was washed up last year.

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Alexander is done snipe. He was washed up last year.

We're talking a waiver wire pickup to help out for two weeks. He's as good as anybody out there. Running back is so overrated anyways. As long as you can hit the hole and not fumble the ball you'll do alright in the NFL.

But of course it makes a ton more sense to mortgage their future by sending all their draft picks for Stephen Jackson when they will have Willie Parker back in two weeks.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
We're talking a waiver wire pickup to help out for two weeks. He's as good as anybody out there. Running back is so overrated anyways. As long as you can hit the hole and not fumble the ball you'll do alright in the NFL.

But of course it makes a ton more sense to mortgage their future by sending all their draft picks for Stephen Jackson when they will have Willie Parker back in two weeks.

Who said that? Look, cows would fly before the steelers would offer what it would take to get jackson and then devote such space to the cap. Its just not realistic.

My point is, Alexander is just not a good fit and on top of that is washed up. He has always been terrible in blitz protection and he can't catch.

I agree- you can find a guy to plug in there for a few weeks. But there are plenty of YOUNGER guys that you nor I have ever heard of that can fill the role much better in my opinion.

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Who said that? Look, cows would fly before the steelers would offer what it would take to get jackson and then devote such space to the cap. Its just not realistic.

My point is, Alexander is just not a good fit and on top of that is washed up. He has always been terrible in blitz protection and he can't catch.

I agree- you can find a guy to plug in there for a few weeks. But there are plenty of YOUNGER guys that you nor I have ever heard of that can fill the role much better in my opinion.

The reason those guys aren't on NFL rosters right now is because they fumble and cause they are even worse at picking up the blitz than Alexander. Pittsburgh needs someone with experience they can plug in there. Alexander might not be the guy but I'd at least have him in to work out.

ddthetide 09-30-2008 11:10 AM

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Alexander is done snipe. He was washed up last year.

i agree, his heart is not in being hit anymore. he does not now or ever did run tough enough to be a steeler. he's a Bama man and i'll root for him but he's soft.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
The reason those guys aren't on NFL rosters right now is because they fumble and cause they are even worse at picking up the blitz than Alexander. Pittsburgh needs someone with experience they can plug in there. Alexander might not be the guy but I'd at least have him in to work out.

NO ONE is worse than Shawn Alexander at picking up blitzes. There might be some that are just as bad, but it is nearly impossible to be worse. Do you think he was out on third down because he can't catch?

There are only so many roster spots. A lot of times, a decent young running back can't make a team because he won't play special teams. If you arent starting, you have to be able to play special teams on a 52 man roster unless you are a kicker or a QB.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 11:20 AM

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i agree, his heart is not in being hit anymore. he does not now or ever did run tough enough to be a steeler. he's a Bama man and i'll root for him but he's soft.

He could run though couldnt he dd? Very unique style.

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
NO ONE is worse than Shawn Alexander at picking up blitzes. There might be some that are just as bad, but it is nearly impossible to be worse. Do you think he was out on third down because he can't catch?

There are only so many roster spots. A lot of times, a decent young running back can't make a team because he won't play special teams. If you arent starting, you have to be able to play special teams on a 52 man roster unless you are a kicker or a QB.

You think a guy that won't play special teams can make it as a Steeler RB? If we are questioning Alexander's willingness to take a hit what does it say about the young guy that is too afraid to hit anybody that he can't make a roster?

dalakhani 09-30-2008 11:31 AM

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You think a guy that won't play special teams can make it as a Steeler RB? If we are questioning Alexander's willingness to take a hit what does it say about the young guy that is too afraid to hit anybody that he can't make a roster?

I shouldnt say "won't" i should have said "can't" meaning can't play special teams at a good NFL level.

There are plenty of guys like that but can run the ball decently. I would take that over a soft, over the hill guy with an ego like alexander.

GPK 09-30-2008 12:25 PM

Tatum Bell?

SniperSB23 09-30-2008 12:29 PM

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Tatum Bell?

Willie Parker had better protect his dirty undies.

Realistically they'll probably just activate Justin Vincent from the practice squad. If that was the plan though I'd have thought they'd have done it by now with the two players going on IR so that suggests they'll probably workout at least a few outside guys. Najeh Davenport still alive?

MaTH716 09-30-2008 12:31 PM

I am not sure if he is suspended by the NFL for his boating mishap, but what about Cedric Benson?

GPK 09-30-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Willie Parker had better protect his dirty undies.

Realistically they'll probably just activate Justin Vincent from the practice squad. If that was the plan though I'd have thought they'd have done it by now with the two players going on IR so that suggests they'll probably workout at least a few outside guys. Najeh Davenport still alive?

He was gonna be my next suggestion. Like you said...they just need someone for a couple weeks.

declansharbor 09-30-2008 12:38 PM

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He was gonna be my next suggestion. Like you said...they just need someone for a couple weeks.

I'm pretty sure they either signed him or will go on to do so. Seems like the obvious choice until Fast Willie becomes healthy enough to attempt to rush behind that O line.

GPK 09-30-2008 12:40 PM

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I'm pretty sure they either signed him or will go on to do so. Seems like the obvious choice until Fast Willie becomes healthy enough to attempt to rush behind that O line.


Time for your ass to fall to 4-1 next Sunday:tro:

declansharbor 09-30-2008 12:44 PM

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Time for your ass to fall to 4-1 next Sunday:tro:

*Pulls T shirt collar over nose and laughs uncontrollably* :eek:

Should I run the second stringers out on ya?? Just f'in with ya...

Im welcome to the idea. Let's see what you got!!!

GPK 09-30-2008 12:47 PM

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*Pulls T shirt collar over nose and laughs uncontrollably* :eek:

Should I run the second stringers out on ya?? Just f'in with ya...

Im welcome to the idea. Let's see what you got!!!


I ain't got sh*t. A well trained monkey could have played better than Phillip Rivers did this past week:wf

declansharbor 09-30-2008 12:53 PM

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I ain't got sh*t. A well trained monkey could have played better than Phillip Rivers did this past week:wf

That only means a bounce back week is in store for ya.

I like white flags, it makes me feel like the Persian King (Xerxes) from 300. :rolleyes:

I wish I had this team in a money league. :$:

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-30-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I am not sure if he is suspended by the NFL for his boating mishap, but what about Cedric Benson?

dont bother!! trust me bears fan..

Mortimer 09-30-2008 02:02 PM

This is friggin' boring.


Name the only running back in nfl history to have averaged 5.3 yards in his first 500 carries and then switched to wide receiver and caught over 500 passes.

ddthetide 09-30-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
He could run though couldnt he dd? Very unique style.

he was a stop-n-starter and cut back runner. his first 3 steps were very explosive and that allowed his to stop-n- start. he was strong enough to push the pile but he did like to slam it in for short yardage. his most impressive asset was his open field speed. when he'd get loose he was a break away runner. ask LSU game 10; freshman season 20 carries 291yds and 4 TDS and he had barely played all year. he hit vandy the next year for 20 carries and 209yds.
someone on here said he couldn't catch, he Used to be a very good reciever. Bama ran an excellent screen pass with him and used to throw to him in the flat all the time.

Danzig 09-30-2008 05:21 PM

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lost an O-linemen too. the line play is bad enough.

yeah, torn achilles. everyone say OWWW on three.
my sister got her AT cut years ago. she was in a cast for most of a year. i'm sure they've come a long way tho on treatment since then.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
he was a stop-n-starter and cut back runner. his first 3 steps were very explosive and that allowed his to stop-n- start. he was strong enough to push the pile but he did like to slam it in for short yardage. his most impressive assist was his open field speed. when he'd get loose he was a break away runner. ask LSU game 10; freshman season 20 carries 291yds and 4 TDS and he had barely played all year. he hit vandy the next year for 20 carries and 209yds.
someone on here said he couldn't catch, he Used to be a very good reciever. Bama ran an excellent screen pass with him and used to throw to him in the flat all the time.

I said that and if its not true then i stand corrected. I just don't remember him ever being a three down back at Seattle. I know he doesnt block but I assumed it was because he didnt have the best hands either.

ddthetide 09-30-2008 08:34 PM

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I said that and if its not true then i stand corrected. I just don't remember him ever being a three down back at Seattle. I know he doesnt block but I assumed it was because he didnt have the best hands either.

i never saw much of him in seattle. from what i read after he signed that big contract he got comfortable. he didn't like the pass routes they asked him to run. they went from using a fullback or H-back to a 1 back set and he didn't like that. the 1 back set, Made him have to pass block. the FB seattle had at that time was a good receiver so they used him to block and throw too and took SA out of the game in favor of another WR.

MaTH716 09-30-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I am not sure if he is suspended by the NFL for his boating mishap, but what about Cedric Benson?

How ironic, Cedric Benson signs with the Bengals.

dalakhani 09-30-2008 09:36 PM

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i never saw much of him in seattle. from what i read after he signed that big contract he got comfortable. he didn't like the pass routes they asked him to run. they went from using a fullback or H-back to a 1 back set and he didn't like that. the 1 back set, Made him have to pass block. the FB seattle had at that time was a good receiver so they used him to block and throw too and took SA out of the game in favor of another WR.

I dont think what you read is accurate. Holmgren is a west coast guru directly that learned it directly from Walsh. West Coast offense, especially the purist version that holmgren uses, is pretty much two back. I watched him often and don't remember much if any single back.

What happened in 2006, after the big contract, was that Hutchinson left for free agency and his fullback mack strong got injured. That led to him getting dinged around a lot and was really the beginning of the end. They would have cut him before 2007 if it wasnt for the hit they would have taken.

he was with the tide while stallings was still there right?

ddthetide 10-01-2008 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont think what you read is accurate. Holmgren is a west coast guru directly that learned it directly from Walsh. West Coast offense, especially the purist version that holmgren uses, is pretty much two back. I watched him often and don't remember much if any single back.

What happened in 2006, after the big contract, was that Hutchinson left for free agency and his fullback mack strong got injured. That led to him getting dinged around a lot and was really the beginning of the end. They would have cut him before 2007 if it wasnt for the hit they would have taken.

he was with the tide while stallings was still there right?

yes, then his senior ( probably his best) year played for Dubose. chris samuels was LT. that team went on that magic run starting with a 17pt 4qter rally in the Swamp. SA tied it up with a few seconds left. then won it with a 4th down pass catch and run in OT. the week before Bama had lost bad to (i think) LaTech. we figured the gators would kills us in the Swamp.
SA and company ran through the rest of the season and DESTROYED spurrier's gators in the SECC and lost to michigan in the citrus bowl in OT and SA had a big game.

Mortimer 10-01-2008 07:32 AM

Isn't it dangerous to have seats right on the 50?

Mortimer 10-01-2008 08:15 AM

Do you get hungry when they mention hash marks?




Ah do.

Mortimer 10-01-2008 11:37 AM

Where is the start zone?


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