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blackthroatedwind 09-17-2008 05:32 PM

Trips and Traps
 
Starting tomorrow, with a new segment weekly, we will be doing a roughly twenty minute segment for the NYRA Youtube site called " Trips and Traps. " The show will cover roughly six races from the previous week at whichever NYRA track is running with trip comments and some horses to watch. There will be a link on nyra.com.

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.

Indian Charlie 09-17-2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Starting tomorrow, with a new segment weekly, we will be doing a roughly twenty minute segment for the NYRA Youtube site called " Trips and Traps. " The show will cover roughly six races from the previous week at whichever NYRA track is running with trip comments and some horses to watch. There will be a link on nyra.com.

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.

get the fat man and hrfan on your show at the same time to explain trips.

i like contrast.

declansharbor 09-17-2008 05:34 PM

Brilliant idea BTW. Looking forward to watching it and learning more about what to look for within a race.

ateamstupid 09-17-2008 05:48 PM

Sounds like a terrific idea and something that more tracks should be trying. I'll be watching for sure.

infield_line 09-17-2008 06:01 PM

NYRA Youtube Site????
 
do you have a linky?

Thanks, really looking forward to more BTW gems..

I/L

blackthroatedwind 09-17-2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infield_line
do you have a linky?

Thanks, really looking forward to more BTW gems..

I/L

We're not filming until tomorrow morning. Check www.nyra.com during the day tomorrow.

hockey2315 09-17-2008 06:38 PM

Very cool idea. . .

magic_idol 09-17-2008 06:40 PM

Great idea looking forward to it :tro:

blackthroatedwind 09-18-2008 06:17 PM

We filmed the show this morning but there must be some delay in getting it on the site. It should be up tomorrow.

the_fat_man 09-18-2008 06:37 PM

Will Desormeaux's ride in today's 8th make next week's segment?

blackthroatedwind 09-18-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Will Desormeaux's ride in today's 8th make next week's segment?


Without a doubt!

blackthroatedwind 09-19-2008 04:31 AM

Here's the link to the Youtube page. The show is on the bottom of the page.


http://www.youtube.com/NYRAvideo

hrfan 09-19-2008 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Will Desormeaux's ride in today's 8th make next week's segment?

WHAT ABOUT HIS RIDE IN THE 9TH ?

GPK 09-19-2008 04:47 AM

Good stuff Andy. Just watched Part I. Thanks for the link.

golfer 09-19-2008 05:57 AM

Andy, do you have the technology to insert arrows or highlight the key horse?

The picture quality on my computer is lacking a bit, and that combined with my color blindness makes it difficult for me to follow the key horse.
I would assume others may have the same problem (computer monitor, not color blindness).

blackthroatedwind 09-19-2008 05:59 AM

Hopefully we will highlight in the future. It's not always easy but we'll figure something out.

TheSpyder 09-19-2008 07:17 AM

Very interesting. I would suggest giving more detail of the horses in question as on some computers (speed) it's very hard to distinguish cap color and location in the race. Slow motion is excellent used on first race. Arrows would be good.

Also, listing horses on screen at the end with name, trainer, and jock that day would make it easier to keep track and record info for future.

Otherwise very useful horse racing information.

Thanks Andy

magic_idol 09-19-2008 08:04 AM

........And could you get the horse & jockey that is going to win @ it's next start to raise his riding crop or if thats too obvious maybe get the horse to wink so i can bet on it & make Lotsa:$: ;) :rolleyes: Just J/king

Indian Charlie 09-20-2008 11:25 AM

Adding text and graphics (arrows and such) to video is pretty easy, once you have some familiarity with it.

There are tons of programs out there that will do this.

www.videohelp.com for everything you conceivably want to know how to do with any form of video.

the_fat_man 09-20-2008 11:35 AM

A lot of LAZY mofo's here. How about actually firing up a BETTER replay and watching the race again with the comments of the experts in mind?

Last thing these guys need is to be editing video. Should be enough that they're sharing some INVALUABLE information (and techniques).

my miss storm cat 09-20-2008 11:36 AM

I just watched part 1 and maybe I'm in the minority but I don't think it needs arrows, highlights, etc. Either way. The people who are watching this know where to look..... like I said though either way.

You looked suave. Good interaction, very natural, open and honest hand gestures. Sorry for being the visual type but if I'm distracted by something I find annoying, I'll tune out.

Well done, Mr. Serling. You have the official seal of approval from the pretty horsie squad.

Your dream come true, I'm sure... :p

GPK 09-20-2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I just watched part 1 and maybe I'm in the minority but I don't think it needs arrows, highlights, etc. Either way. The people who are watching this know where to look..... like I said though either way.

You looked suave. Good interaction, very natural, open and honest hand gestures. Sorry for being the visual type but if I'm distracted by something I find annoying, I'll tune out.

Well done, Mr. Serling. You have the official seal of approval from the pretty horsie squad.

Your dream come true, I'm sure... :p


:rolleyes:

Bigsmc 09-20-2008 12:31 PM

MMSC, Andy is the one on the right.

hockey2315 09-20-2008 12:48 PM

well I wouldn't exactly describe Eric as "suave" either. . .

RolloTomasi 09-20-2008 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
A lot of LAZY mofo's here. How about actually firing up a BETTER replay and watching the race again with the comments of the experts in mind?

Brilliant. So we should watch the show, memorize (or hire a personal stenographer) the transcript, then find or pay for replays of the same, RANDOM, races, and watch them all over again at a later time? Just so they don't have to go to the trouble to add in a John Maddenesque graphic scrawl? Sounds efficient and productive...

...like taking a dump at a public restroom, then waiting to wipe one's azz til they get home where there's better toilet paper...

Of course, I guess we can cut out the down time somewhat if we got our trusty trikes fired up...

Good idea.

RolloTomasi 09-20-2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I just watched part 1 and maybe I'm in the minority but I don't think it needs arrows, highlights, etc. Either way. The people who are watching this know where to look..... like I said though either way.

So when the TV guy tells you to follow the number 1 horse, your instinct isn't to watch the horse that breaks from the rail, but rather whatever random post it drew(cuz number 1 was part of a coupling)? If you have those powers of foresight, you shouldn't even need to watch the finish.

Simply put, it needs highlights. Or a simple rundown of the field prior to the actual replay (which might be better because it could give the conditions of the race as well).

stonegossard 09-20-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Brilliant. So we should watch the show, memorize (or hire a personal stenographer) the transcript, then find or pay for replays of the same, RANDOM, races, and watch them all over again at a later time? Just so they don't have to go to the trouble to add in a John Maddenesque graphic scrawl? Sounds efficient and productive...

...like taking a dump at a public restroom, then waiting to wipe one's azz til they get home where there's better toilet paper...

Of course, I guess we can cut out the down time somewhat if we got our trusty trikes fired up...

Good idea.

Hall of fame post here Rollo.

my miss storm cat 09-20-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
So when the TV guy tells you to follow the number 1 horse, your instinct isn't to watch the horse that breaks from the rail, but rather whatever random post it drew(cuz number 1 was part of a coupling)? If you have those powers of foresight, you shouldn't even need to watch the finish.

Simply put, it needs highlights. Or a simple rundown of the field prior to the actual replay (which might be better because it could give the conditions of the race as well).

No dear one, I'm not saying I have these powers of foresight of which you speak. What I meant was that horseplayers in general are not idiots..... if someone is talking about a race none of us need dumbing down. I appreciated the simplicity of just showing the race(s).

Arrows / highlights are fine, they work. My point is only that it works either way. Just my opinion... you can tell me to stick it wherever you see fit.

GPK Sir? Damned right he looked suave.

You know, and I'm sure others here do too, that I was the one to nail Andy to a cross and rip him to shreds when I thought he wasn't visually as natural, well-dressed, well-spoken, etc as he is here.

Andy looked mahvalas. Deal with it.

Coach Pants 09-20-2008 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Brilliant. So we should watch the show, memorize (or hire a personal stenographer) the transcript, then find or pay for replays of the same, RANDOM, races, and watch them all over again at a later time? Just so they don't have to go to the trouble to add in a John Maddenesque graphic scrawl? Sounds efficient and productive...

...like taking a dump at a public restroom, then waiting to wipe one's azz til they get home where there's better toilet paper...

Of course, I guess we can cut out the down time somewhat if we got our trusty trikes fired up...

Good idea.

!!OOOOOOOOOO!!

:tro: :tro:

Hickory Hill Hoff 09-21-2008 09:16 AM

Shout out for Andy!
 
Tom & Nick from Trackfacts (Capital OTB) gave props & kudos to Andy's new show on the NYRA video feed this morning.

PSH 09-22-2008 10:07 AM

Thanks for a Great Weekend
 
Thanks Andy S. for a great weekend of selections at Belmont Friday-Sunday. Looks like you had about a 80% hit ratio including some nice top selection prices (Billy Turner's horse on Saturday in the turf sprint at 10-1, etc.)

I suspect you are glad to be back at Belmont......

PSH

Dunbar 09-22-2008 02:45 PM

Good stuff, BTW. Looking forward to future segments.

--Dunbar

blackthroatedwind 09-24-2008 06:24 PM

The second installment of Trips & Traps has been posted. The first segment was just put up and the second should be following shortly.

GPK 09-24-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
No dear one, I'm not saying I have these powers of foresight of which you speak. What I meant was that horseplayers in general are not idiots..... if someone is talking about a race none of us need dumbing down. I appreciated the simplicity of just showing the race(s).

Arrows / highlights are fine, they work. My point is only that it works either way. Just my opinion... you can tell me to stick it wherever you see fit.

GPK Sir? Damned right he looked suave.

You know, and I'm sure others here do too, that I was the one to nail Andy to a cross and rip him to shreds when I thought he wasn't visually as natural, well-dressed, well-spoken, etc as he is here.

Andy looked mahvalas. Deal with it.


Touchy...wow
:wf

pgardn 09-24-2008 10:07 PM

Lance Armstrong is riding again.
I want to see the segment on chain lubrication
and titanium ball-bearings...

-Drafting in the Velodrome

golfer 09-25-2008 06:11 AM

Stopping the video and circling the focus horse works great! Thanks for the changes, very easy to follow now, I can pay close attention to what you guys are saying, as opposed to trying to figure out where the focus horse is.
Well done.

All that's left is to make some $$ when these horses return to the track.

GBBob 09-25-2008 08:29 AM

You guys did a good job slowing the show and the races down, which helps us non-pace experts.

blackthroatedwind 10-31-2008 08:32 PM

I thought I would shamelessly bring this thread back up. Not sure if people are still watching but I'm pretty happy with how things have gone and would still like to hear any thoughts and suggestions.

the_fat_man 10-31-2008 08:46 PM

I suggest taking a look at the last race of Yodelady O. (OSA-10-12-08_R6).

How much does she win by IF:

the doofus jock is able to get the whip out, BUST her lefty, and keep her from going between horses and from lugging in the length of the stretch?

Not surprisingly, Quinonez gets up again on her tomorrow.

On a more related note: I've been watching the show and think it's progressing nicely. Good job.

blackthroatedwind 10-31-2008 08:59 PM

Thanks.

I'll take a look at that replay when I get a chance.


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