Churchill deal steals 2010 BC from Belmont
 

As revealed on ATR tonight. BC reneges on handshake deal with NYRA.

Alright!

Hayward: 2010 Cup to Churchill
 

The Breeders Cup Ltd. is based in Kentucky, and loses state tax breaks in 2009 if the BC isn't held again at Churchill. CD was holding them hostage for a larger cut of profit. Probably some deal.

the bc's version of how to make friends and influence people.

F the BC. They think they are racing now. I would love to see NYRA go to war with them and make NY the place where the champs are decided. Like it used to be.

They should have a turf sprint festival. That'll show 'em.

Linda Rice agrees

The Breeder's Cup sucks!

If some think it will be better to get two straight years on "poly" & thumb thier nose to NYRA, well...............:rolleyes:

I'll sure miss his f-ball picks (or plays) here. ;)

who cares about the watered down 21st century BC? Its a nothing event as far as I am concererned, the BC ended in 2006.

The fatman hardens like cold butter.

So what happened to the...

"We....(Churchill).....can't make enough of a profit hosting the BC to make it worth our while!!)


.......supposedly in response to previous announcements that SA would be the site of the next 2 BS.....I mean BC "festivals"......what happened did they squeeze a few more bucks out of the event by adding 1/4 horse events??

Such a joke to screw NYRA yet again.....I hope the horsemen boycott the thing and turn it into a "Replacement BC".....ala the NFL strike season!!

Why on earth would they have any desire to do that?

I could care less about the BC with its back-to-back all-weather races for '08 & '09.

NYRA should bill its 9/27 date as the "real dirt" championships with the JCGC (Classic), Beldame (Distaff.. oops, I mean Ladies Classic :rolleyes: ) , and Vosburgh (Sprint) as the real championship races. Heck, with the Flower Bowl (F & M Turf) and Joe Hirsch (Turf Classic), it's basically the same thing (without the turf mile and Juvy races) as the 'old' BC Day.
Either way, it's the best remaining day on the calender for dirt racing in '08.

At least they didn't decide to stay in California for a 3rd straight year.

i don't know what happened. perhaps the bc made a different deal with churchill than in the past? but a shame they couldn't just wait and host in '11, since '10 was already supposedly spoken for.

they should have left 10 alone, and given next year to churchill. there's no compelling arguement for having it at santa anita two years running.

The Breeders Cup at Churchill is much better than the BC at Belmont. Churchill fills up and has a great atmosphere. Belmont could easily be 40 degrees and freezing with the winds. Throw in a home Giants or Jets game on the Sunday and the Yankees or Mets in the World Series and the BC doesn't even get any coverage.

Um, were you there for the 2006 Breeders Cup? Coldest day ever.

I was there and it was like 50 degrees. Invasor won too. :)

I have been to the Breeders Cup at Belmont in 1995 and it was the most pathetic day ever. There was nobody there and it was terrible weather.

Sure, NYRA got screwed. We can argue all day about recourse, ramifications, and what should and shouldn't be done. In the end, it's just more cannibalization.

The BC is looking out for the BC and is not working with the industry. What else is new.

Eric

All I know is the 2006 Breeders Cup at Churchill was the worst run horse racing event I've ever attended in terms of organization, teller lines, and concessions. And it was butt cold that entire week in Kentucky.

Isnt that problematic though, if you are trying to attract fans to your "super bowl" and that is their first exposure its a tough sell for the sport?

Actually, the weather the day of the 1995 Breeders Cup wasn't bad at all. The temperatures was in the 60s; however, there were torrential rains the day and night before, leaving the track a sea of slop and the turf courses a bog.

The Breeders Cup at Churchill in 1991 was one of the coldest days that I have ever been to the track - and that includes trips to Aqueduct in the winter. And the site lines at Churchill for the typical fan are downright horrible.

IMO, the "best" Breeders Cup site, for fans and horsemen, had been Gulfstream Park, but unfortunately Magna's changes to that facility prevent it from hosting the event any more.

Move the Champagne and the Frizette from the following week to cover the Juvy races and contemplate moving the NYRA mile from Aqueduct's Holiday fest and you've got all of the bases covered.

LMAO.

Chrurchill steals deal from NYRA.

What exactly do you expect and how can you be surprised?

Evans, Hamilton, Santulli, Phipps. All on non-profit NYRA's bloated board. Funny, they are also on the boards or are trustees of for-profit entities Churchill and Breeders Cup, Ltd..

Maybe if NYRA had another couple dozen board members, this might not have happened.

just how many tracks meet the requirements to host a BC?

3?

I'm against the B.C. being held at Churchill. They simply are unable to avoid having a biased track. Belmont is a more fair track. Street Sense looked like he jumped on a motorbike and took a ride. He never did that before, or after. Yea, he won the Derby on the track, but was giving up ground at the end. Did he ever win by 10 lengths again? The Calbred WHO ROMPED in the sprint was all out to win his next race, and hasn't done anything since. They get way too much weather there. They can't get the track fair after that.

It's still better than possibly 95 degrees and ashes falling on you like in '04. IMO

I couldn't disagree more. Maybe I got lucky but had NO PROBLEMS either at the teller lines or concessions including Carolina BB-que. Weather was brisk but certainly better than Arlington's BC and well above freezing.

Did you go to Lone Star for BC? THAT, was bad

I did not, but I have been to Churchill numerous other times for other big racing days.

Scab horses?

Anything beats the BC in Hong Kong as was discussed last year. I thought Churchill in '06 was better than both Monmouth last year and Belmont in '05.

Disagree completely, other than the weather (which was cold, but not brutal... what do you expect in the first week of November though?) Other than that, and the horrific job of Denman's first attempt at calling the BC, it was a fantastic experience. Churchill handles crowds better than anyone else. I personally am looking forward to 2010.

If that was handling crowds, that I experienced this year at the Derby, COUNT ME OUT!!!

I'm with you Phil and I loved that weather...sweatshirts and good for racing. Lines brutal, but it's always that way on BC day. Better than the sauna at Lone Star

BC crowd is HALF the Derby, and generally more knowledgeable fans. I know what you mean about that though, there's a reason I've only been to two Derbies and it's not because I don't like it. It's just too much. Of the Triple Crown events, I happen to enjoy the Preakness the most.

and WAYYYYY better than the baths we took at Monmouth, which was a real shame because Mth is great on a nice day. Cold and dry is fine by me!!!

I don't know where y'all sat at the 06 Breeders Cup, but for those of us down in the 1st floor grandstand, they had about 1/3 of the tellers available for the same number of 1st floor grandstand seats that are generally filled at the Derby. It was one of the more tedious sporting events I've ever attended. This year's Belmont - you know, the Belmont where the bathrooms busticated half way through the card in 98 degree heat - was by comparison a much more enjoyable experience than was the 2006 Breeders Cup.

I guess it's just a matter of perspective.

1st floor grandstand for me... this year's Belmont I was in the comparative Taj Mahal (the Garden Terrace Dining Room)... and I'd rate the '06 BC higher.