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the_fat_man 07-30-2008 11:28 PM

Sar R3
 
Is there 'enough pace due to presence of DRIFT KING and SIPHON THE KITTY'?

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:09 AM

I dont think anyone will be near Drift King especially if he rips off another 23 second 1/4.:confused:

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah good point. 23 is blazing fast :rolleyes:

I wasn't agreeing with you fool. That was an idiotic statement that you made based on the fact the horse has never run on the turf and has never had the lead at the quarter faster than 22.3. So explain to me why Siphon the Kitty can't run with this horse.

Bigsmc 07-31-2008 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
I wasn't agreeing with you fool. That was an idiotic statement that you made based on the fact the horse has never run on the turf and has never had the lead at the quarter faster than 22.3. So explain to me why Siphon the Kitty can't run with this horse.

A little testy today kgar? Way to jump right into the name calling.

Redefined could probably have the lead if he wanted it, but may end up trapped inside Drift King and StK. For a horse that seems to like making a wide move, this may not be the best trip.

Snowstalker and Hatta Fort for me so far....

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:27 AM

I normally like to either see or hear a race if I have money on it, so wether I put money on a horse is my business. And its funny you make fun of my pool but you would be very surprized which owners, trainers and handicappers are involved in it.
And to know little old idiot me is the leader after 7 days.

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
A little testy today kgar? Way to jump right into the name calling.

Redefined could probably have the lead if he wanted it, but may end up trapped inside Drift King and StK. For a horse that seems to like making a wide move, this may not be the best trip.

Snowstalker and Hatta Fort for me so far....

This is run over from yesterday afternoon, him and Pants started it.

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So no. Another big mouth that doesn't bet, perfect.

Um I bet plenty, I won $800 last night thanks. And believe me I have plenty of money in my account if I would like to place a wager.

kgar311 07-31-2008 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I believe you. You seem like you know your stuff.

And your little statement about Drift King being a speed demon shows how much you know.

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-31-2008 08:40 AM

wow..

miraja2 07-31-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
And your little statement about Drift King being a speed demon shows how much you know.

Speaking of how much people know....remember when you posted this:
"I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby."

To me that says that you don't follow the sport very closely....which is fine. But, if you want to have the reputation as this great handicapper, it might be advisable to post all of these winning plays you are claiming BEFORE the race, or demonstrate some other area of knowledge about the sport, rather than just redboarding everything.
Now if you want to call certain people out on this board, fine. I don't have a problem with that. But you should probably go ahead and call them out rather than just making vague claims against large groups of people that you only identify with terms like "everybody." I don't have anything against you personally man, but this stuff you've been posting the last couple of days seems to be - in my opinion - a bit over the top.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Speaking of how much people know....remember when you posted this:
"I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby."

To me that says that you don't follow the sport very closely....which is fine. But, if you want to have the reputation as this great handicapper, it might be advisable to post all of these winning plays you are claiming BEFORE the race, or demonstrate some other area of knowledge about the sport, rather than just redboarding everything.
Now if you want to call certain people out on this board, fine. I don't have a problem with that. But you should probably go ahead and call them out rather than just making vague claims against large groups of people that you only identify with terms like "everybody." I don't have anything against you personally man, but this stuff you've been posting the last couple of days seems to be - in my opinion - a bit over the top.

Im not taking anyone's "side" here. I am just verifying that i have seen this guy post a couple of winners.

As far as knowing or not knowing who barbaro was before the derby, what does that have to do with his ability to handicap? Do you have to follow racing at the highest levels to be able to handicap a monday card at delaware park?

There are guys I see at the track regularly that dont have a clue that Curlin was pointing toward the arc but knew everything that was going on at the particular track that they were betting...and they win often.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 10:21 AM

QUOTE=DaHoss9698]:rolleyes:[/quote]

;)

kgar311 07-31-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Speaking of how much people know....remember when you posted this:
"I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby."

To me that says that you don't follow the sport very closely....which is fine. But, if you want to have the reputation as this great handicapper, it might be advisable to post all of these winning plays you are claiming BEFORE the race, or demonstrate some other area of knowledge about the sport, rather than just redboarding everything.
Now if you want to call certain people out on this board, fine. I don't have a problem with that. But you should probably go ahead and call them out rather than just making vague claims against large groups of people that you only identify with terms like "everybody." I don't have anything against you personally man, but this stuff you've been posting the last couple of days seems to be - in my opinion - a bit over the top.

"Of course ive heard of Barbaro before the race but not in the context of "super Horse" as everyone decided to put him in after the derby"

I believe this is what I said after that exagerated post I made before. So when you decide to call me out about something please make sure we dont pick and choose posts, give us the whole story.
And I call nobody out until people like hoss and pants and others decide to jump on people first. They are like wolves. Think about how many more people we could have on here adding their opinions if it wasnt for a certain few people marking their "territory" and get a little freightened when new people decide to add an opinion on here. I dont have the time to look but I bet there are lots and lots of people that have been here and have under 50 posts and have never posted again because of the BS they get right off the bat. Keep the same people on here posting the same stale comments all you guys want. And its a wonder why some people are on here getting private messages from certain posters about coming over to different blog sights to get away from this sight. I dont understand why Steve just dont make this site private and just allow the same morons to post here without allowing anyone new to come in. Maybe that will stop the fighting.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
;)

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:$: Good luck to you and all in this race. It will be interesting to watch the outcome. I am hoping that everyone that replied here will have a fearless selection.

I will post mine and duck from the thrown tomatoes if it finishes last.

Cheers.

philcski 07-31-2008 10:42 AM

For what it's worth, I used Redefined as my NYRA Showdown pick. That doesn't mean I'd actually bet him in the race... I just think he's got the best chance to hit the board of the runners today.

zippyneedsawin 07-31-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
For what it's worth, I used Redefined as my NYRA Showdown pick. That doesn't mean I'd actually bet him in the race... I just think he's got the best chance to hit the board of the runners today.

I used Hatta Fort :eek:

Good Luck, Phil!!

philcski 07-31-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
I used Hatta Fort :eek:

Good Luck, Phil!!

You too, I think both are the right plays on the card. We need Storming Off to run like the reason he's dropping in for the claim off a good effort... 90% of the entries gone in 7 days. Amazing. I have two of my three left, the only dinger was Street Magician getting beat a nose in the last jump for third.

kgar311 07-31-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Stop whining and crying like a baby. You're an idiot and a simple perusal of your prior posts proves it. You're the same guy who questioned Canadian racing right? You whined that not enough "insiders" put their plays out. Go back under your rock.

Whats sad about you is that you admit to living in your moms basement.

Coach Pants 07-31-2008 11:05 AM


kgar311 07-31-2008 11:11 AM

Pants in da houuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeeeeee. What time did your roomate get up hoss?

Coach Pants 07-31-2008 11:12 AM

Don't worry, Hoss. I'm on the phone right now with the HR deparment at his place of employment giving them the ip address he's using and website address of Derbytrail.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
You too, I think both are the right plays on the card. We need Storming Off to run like the reason he's dropping in for the claim off a good effort... 90% of the entries gone in 7 days. Amazing. I have two of my three left, the only dinger was Street Magician getting beat a nose in the last jump for third.

Haddafort is certainly the class and the deserved favorite. The only thing is that i am scared that it is too short for him and there might not be enough pace. What did you think about the pace scenario?

Does Around the cape have anything left?

kgar311 07-31-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Don't worry, Hoss. I'm on the phone right now with the HR deparment at his place of employment giving them the ip address he's using and website address of Derbytrail.

See that Pants, Devry Institute has a great computer programming course. You should check that out and then go get a job with computers. Maybe its your calling!

Coach Pants 07-31-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
See that Pants, Devry Institute has a great computer programming course. You should check that out and then go get a job with computers. Maybe its your calling!

That's ok. You should give that a shot though. I have a feeling you're going to be unemployed soon. ;)

philcski 07-31-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Haddafort is certainly the class and the deserved favorite. The only thing is that i am scared that it is too short for him and there might not be enough pace. What did you think about the pace scenario?

Does Around the cape have anything left?

My thoughts exactly on Hatta Fort, however he;s probably good enough to hit the board anyways. and on Around the Cape... no. Too bad.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
My thoughts exactly on Hatta Fort, however he;s probably good enough to hit the board anyways. and on Around the Cape... no. Too bad.

If that is the case, i am going to go with siphon the kitty. Perhaps he can wire this field.

Good luck to all and to you phil on that Dutrow selection.

philcski 07-31-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
If that is the case, i am going to go with siphon the kitty. Perhaps he can wire this field.

Good luck to all and to you phil on that Dutrow selection.

Nah, don't change your pick! For the purposes of the game I think Hatta Fort is a much better selection than Siphon the Kitty, the objective isn't to pick winners at a price but survive!

Coach Pants 07-31-2008 11:33 AM

On topic...

this race is impossible and I would only play for pick 3 purposes the 2,4,5,7. Let Motion's horse and Godolphin beat me. They'll be underlays.

dalakhani 07-31-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Nah, don't change your pick! For the purposes of the game I think Hatta Fort is a much better selection than Siphon the Kitty, the objective isn't to pick winners at a price but survive!

Not changing the pick. Just asking someone who obviously knows his stuff what they thought about a particualr horse. Obviously you think he is done...and i will take that at face value. If i had a strong feeling either way, i would have just picked him. And if he wins, no redboarding.

What made me curious was the barn switch and the jump in class.

cheers.

philcski 07-31-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Not changing the pick. Just asking someone who obviously knows his stuff what they thought about a particualr horse. Obviously you think he is done...and i will take that at face value. If i had a strong feeling either way, i would have just picked him. And if he wins, no redboarding.

What made me curious was the barn switch and the jump in class.

cheers.

Oops, I'm confusing myself. Zippy was the one who took Hatta Fort for the NYRA Showdown. From a win bet perspective I'd probably take the 2, despite Lukas mushing everything he has.

As for Around the Cape, I really liked that one and I think old age has caught up to him. I think he still holds the 6F turf record at Belmont.


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