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GPK 07-21-2008 01:50 PM

Economy/Business question
 
Those of you whose business depends a great deal on peoples discretionary income, how much is your business down compared to LY?

TheSpyder 07-21-2008 01:57 PM

I'm in the mattress industry which is discretionary in that people will wait since most people have one already. Business across the country is down 20%-30%. People are closing up shop both as manufacturers and retailers. Retailers are getting killed as fixed expenses don't change.

Spyder

Mortimer 07-21-2008 02:02 PM

Me no scam consumer.

GPK 07-21-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
I'm in the mattress industry which is discretionary in that people will wait since most people have one already. Business across the country is down 20%-30%. People are closing up shop both as manufacturers and retailers. Retailers are getting killed as fixed expenses don't change.

Spyder


That is what I am hearing from others as well. More input from others would be great.

Thanks Sypdie

skippy3481 07-21-2008 02:09 PM

Kev my stores are up 4 percent I think it all depends what area of business your in. Some businesses are chugging along while some are off 40 percent.

FGFan 07-21-2008 02:11 PM

There was a article in the news that Vegas which is considered recession proof is now feeling the impact. Flights will be down 12% and hotels 18% is what I think they quoted, they are now re-inventing their marketing and appealing to more local business, giving away gas cards, and the convention source has significantly dropped.

Mortimer 07-21-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FGFan
There was a article in the news that Vegas which is considered recession proof is now feeling the impact. Flights will be down 12% and hotels 18% is what I think they quoted, they are now re-inventing their marketing and appealing to more local business, giving away gas cards, and the convention source has significantly dropped.



ILY

Coach Pants 07-21-2008 02:21 PM

When life throws you lemons...piss in a hobo's mouth.

2MinsToPost 07-21-2008 06:03 PM

I'm in the grocery business. The company I work for is one of the power houses in the Midwest with over 200 stores and growing. Funny thing is this came up at a Meeting I was at this past Saturday before our Grand Opening of the store I am at now.

For our existing stores, business is up 15% across the board ending this fiscal year (our fiscal year ends in June) compared to fiscal year ending 2007. Keep in mind we have a great fuel perks program that can save our customers a ton of money on gas they purchase from our stations based on how much they spend in our stores.

ddthetide 07-21-2008 07:13 PM

i'm a serviceman for the electric dept. people aren't paying thier electric bills until they have to. the first week of april is usually VERY busy and the last week of oct doing cut-offs for non-payment. (CONPs) because of the warm spring and early summer heat we cut off 85 today and about that many tomorrow. the bills are climbing and we're trying to keep them in hand.

ninetoone 07-21-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm a serviceman for the electric dept. people aren't paying thier electric bills until they have to. the first week of april is usually VERY busy and the last week of oct doing cut-offs for non-payment. (CONPs) because of the warm spring and early summer heat we cut off 85 today and about that many tomorrow. the bills are climbing and we're trying to keep them in hand.

I hear a lot of places have (or are beginning) legislation to ban cutting off someone's electricity/gas when the temp rises above 95 degrees, etc...have you seen this?

ddthetide 07-21-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
I hear a lot of places have (or are beginning) legislation to ban cutting off someone's electricity/gas when the temp rises above 95 degrees, etc...have you seen this?

we had this discussion this morning if we should do them or not.. wash. dc does not cut-off above 95* i do know that one.
i work for a city govt. the public service commission has different rules for us than for private companies. it's actually tougher for us to do CON-P's so we have to do them when we can. april 1- oct 31 we have few restrictions. nov 1- march 31 we can do CON-P's but we have to jump through hoops. they have to be notified 2 times. once is the termination bill, second is a 24hrs notice hand delivered. then we have to notify the PSC, if they ok it, we then have a 10 day window to do the disconnect, it must stay above 32* for about 24hrs after. each states PSC regs are different. Pennsylvania has a regulation i love for us to have. in Pa. if a tenant is evicted or skips out and owes a electric bill. the owner has to pay the bill to have service restored, then fight with the tenant to get the money. a Pa. town 30 miles to our north has a 90% collection rate and doesn't have near the trouble we do. they've not had the "trash" and slumlords move into their town and the regulation is part of the reason.

herkhorse 07-21-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Those of you whose business depends a great deal on peoples discretionary income, how much is your business down compared to LY?

I mine and sell quartz crystals for a living, very much discretionary. U.S. business is way down, but fortunately for me 90% of my customers are from Europe or Japan. The last 2 years have been great. With the value of the U.S. dollar being so low, my foreign buyers get way more bang for their buck, and are spending more than ever. Just 5-10 years ago it was the other way around, and they were the ones complaining. My cost of production however is WAY up, and may become a problem in the next few years. (Might be time to get a real job)

GPK 07-21-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
I mine and sell quartz crystals for a living, very much discretionary. U.S. business is way down, but fortunately for me 90% of my customers are from Europe or Japan. The last 2 years have been great. With the value of the U.S. dollar being so low, my foreign buyers get way more bang for their buck, and are spending more than ever. Just 5-10 years ago it was the other way around, and they were the ones complaining. My cost of production however is WAY up, and may become a problem in the next few years. (Might be time to get a real job)


Interesting, thanks. What has been the leading cause of your production cost increasing?

herkhorse 07-21-2008 09:40 PM

Mainly the cost of diesel fuel.

GPK 07-21-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Mainly the cost of diesel fuel.


I don't ever have much reason to pay attention to the price of diesel...but what is it where you are? $5.00-$5.25?

Mortimer 07-21-2008 09:50 PM

I think he walked down to the station to find out for ya.

GPK 07-21-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think he walked down to the station to find out for ya.

well....mighty kind of 'em.


Would you have done the same?

herkhorse 07-21-2008 09:53 PM

It varies, but yeah about 5.00. We have a compressor, 2 backhoes, a loader, and a dump truck so it adds up fast.

herkhorse 07-21-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think he walked down to the station to find out for ya.

:rolleyes:

Mortimer 07-21-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
It varies, but yeah about 5.00. We have a compressor, 2 backhoes, a loader, and a dump truck so it adds up fast.

Are these those chincy Ford bh/loaders?

The loaders......who and what model...please.

Mortimer 07-21-2008 09:57 PM

He must have gone to the job site to find out.




:rolleyes:

herkhorse 07-21-2008 10:25 PM

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herkhorse 07-22-2008 05:07 AM

not a Ford

GPK 07-22-2008 07:17 AM

Recent trends show gas prices dropping in this area. A couple places I pass on the way to work have dropped from the $3.94-$3.99 range to $3.74-$3.84.

herkhorse 07-22-2008 07:22 AM

Gas is dropping a bit here too, but we still pay about 4.18- damn NY taxes

GPK 07-22-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Gas is dropping a bit here too, but we still pay about 4.18- damn NY taxes


Between gas and cigarettes up there, ya'll really get hammered. Aren't cig's around $7 a pack up there?

herkhorse 07-22-2008 07:29 AM

yes, 7 bucks a pack

GPK 07-22-2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
yes, 7 bucks a pack


Ouch...$3.50 for a pack of Marlboro Lights here:)

herkhorse 07-22-2008 07:32 AM

You should bring some of those up to Saratoga and sell them in the picnic area.:D

herkhorse 07-22-2008 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Are these those chincy Ford bh/loaders?

The loaders......who and what model...please.


allright I'll tell ya.....Cat 988

Danzig 07-22-2008 08:00 AM

i saw pics yesterday of my next car. 2010 chevy camaro. i think i'll get it in black.

Danzig 07-22-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
yes, 7 bucks a pack

holy crap! glad i qut....

Mortimer 07-22-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
allright I'll tell ya.....Cat 988


r u kidding me?



That's pretty friggin' big!! I would have thought tracks and not rubber tars.

herkhorse 07-22-2008 04:22 PM

no sir. not kidding. very big.

Mortimer 07-22-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
no sir. not kidding. very big.


OK..the backhos.

Kohrings?.....BucyrusErie?...big?

herkhorse 07-22-2008 05:18 PM

we got one big Koehring, and a couple of Hein-Werners circa 1973, big and slow

Mortimer 07-22-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
we got one big Koehring, and a couple of Hein-Werners circa 1973, big and slow


Yow.


That's a lot of money tied up in equipment.That's a 1066..I would think?From memory.


Is this like a small scale strip mining kind of thing?

DogsUp 07-22-2008 05:28 PM

I talked to a colleague and she said her patient numbers are down 22%. She is a PA in a family practice. Sad when the health of people suffer.

herkhorse 07-22-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Yow.


That's a lot of money tied up in equipment.That's a 1066..I would think?From memory.


Is this like a small scale strip mining kind of thing?

These are old dinosaurs, nobody wants them any more. But yeah, there is some money there. Cost 700.00 just to change the tire on the loader last week (just the changing part, we used our own spare)

Kind of an open pit mine, the crystals are in holes in the dolomitic limestone.


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