Disgusted..
 

How do they not take that 2 yr old down in the second ? Baffert's horse was much the best, and not taking her down has cost me at least a $1000 pick 4, i am disgusted right now, i swear even if i did not bet i would still think this horse needs to come down, she was drifting out, interfared with bafferts horse more then once, i am furious right now

It was the right decision but I am sorry you lost

That is so ill.

it was not the right decision, not at all..... the horse was erratic through the stretch, driffted and bumped, it was another horrible decision by the nyra stewards

2 possibilities:

1) they're clueless and don't realize the impact of herding (and intimidation)

2) they figure herding is part of the game and choose to selectively DQ horses that don't keep a straight path

either way they take the exactness out of the game

but more importantly, it's JUST ANOTHER way to lose --- get accustomed to it

First time 2 year old filly starters have to be given a tad more give. And it was a mutual issue the steward who do suck made the right call.IMO

SO YOU AGREE WITH ME ?

mutual issue??????? we def. watched different races.

No we didn't and I watched TVG do the head on and pan 3 times..Again I am sorry you lost but they absolutely made the right call not to take the horse down..

It's an easy d.q.........Freddymowrong, that's 3 against 1. The fact you think there was anything mutual is (quite honestly) disturbing.

Ok you guys win even though you lost if you know what I mean?

That's funny.

lol.
Fatman does not exist in a Y/N space.

There is absolutely no way they should have taken that horse down. He didn't herd the other horse and barely drifted.....plus he was a few paths clear of the second hanger when he started to drift.

That call was a complete no brainer.

Agreed. . . the 5 wasn't going by the 7 anyways.

The Baffert horse is running totally straight, and has to shift out 2 full lanes to avoid this horse coming over on it. That hurts momentum, and it means the horse is now running further than she should have to run(if you are going sideways, then you are now running further than if you were allowed to run straight.) The horse has a f'n right to run straight. A horse who is running straight should be able to continue to run straight to the wire. Why should she have to shift over and lose momentum, and run further? She was best. I don't particularly care about the race, but she would of won if the other filly didn't do what she did.

She also probably would've won if she had started better. . . but to change the results in that situation would have been criminal - too bad for all the people that were sending it in on Baffert's horse - and too bad for me too, as I would've had the tri a few times over, but I'd prefer to keep the stewards out of every little bump and "herd" in every race.

Easy to call a horse a hanger if you are gunna ignore the fact she has to shift out 2 lanes, and lose momentum. That's classic.

You need to watch it again. He definitely herds under REPEATED lefty whip early/mid stretch, then he doesn't keep a straight path from there on under righty whip. Given the photo beat, I'd say it was more than enough.

I watched it two or three times during the inquiry and once after the replay ( when they finally got around to showing the head on ). I don't agree. Doesn't make me right but quite frankly I think DQs are handed out around her more than a little frivolously. We should be very happy that the stewards aren't as trigger happy as some posters here.

That's not a factual reason for leaving her up. That's philosophical. WTF use is that s-h-i-t?

Andy's vote should count at least twice.

In most places. Andy gets 3 votes to every one.

Happy 4th of July !

I didn't see it live but had taped the race. They are young 2 yr olds and more leeway has to be given. Good no call.

I don't have a problem with the latter, as long as there's consistency. And there really isn't.

I just don't understand why ONE horse should be given a preference over ANOTHER when it comes to having every opportunity to win a race. It's not about the severity of the move, in most cases, but rather whether the other horse had an EQUAL chance to run in the stretch. Why should the winner in this case be allowed to bear out under repeated whipping, how many times have we seen that from Garcia in the past?, and by doing so OBSTRUCT the path of the other horse. If you can't keep a straight run and by doing so obstruct the path of another horse, you need to come down. And the reason you need to come down is because there are jockeys making a good living doing just that: seemingly subtle ****, in the minds of the stewards, and others, evidently, that nonetheless compromises the chances of the other horse(s).

I'm in the minority when it comes to this but at least I'm on it. I've come to grips with the fact that this is just another way to lose, and then play off it.

Gomez seem to be doing a bit of acting and made it seem a bit worse than it actually was.

Looked like Miss Bodine ducked a 2 lanes coming out of the gate.

Through all of this and nobody even mentions Iron Butterfly. What is the world coming to?

no change in the order of finish was called for here, just like in the Mother Goose.

You beat me to it, that's why!

I didn't see the race, so I obviously have no opinion either way in this case, but I don't agree with this line of thinking at all. Who cares what the condition of the race is? Interference is interference.

your wrong, you are the man around here, for real no sarcasim and you know a lot more about the game then me , ALOT MORE, but your wrong on this one.

you lugnutz
 

is a lug out into the path of a contending horse is grounds for a takedown?

I don't think we should claim to know "who would have won anyway" in a race that close

my opinion is that Mclaughlin's filly would have won, especially under a hard drive through the finish line - rather than Garcia focusing on what was gaining on him.

yes it is grounds and bafferts horse was a winner if not for the other filly

After all the discussion, I made a point to watch the race on the NYRA replay show tonight, and IMO, they made the right call. Granted, I did not see a head-on, but from the pan shot, just before McLaughlin's filly came out, it appeared that Baffert's filly also came in a little bit (just as the rider switched from left to right-handed urging) and she shied from the other horse - pretty understandable from a first-time starting 2YO filly.

So maybe the Stewards, even thought they are
blind (I learned that here) have a difficult job sometimes.

They become especially bad if they make, or do not
make, a decision that costs one money.

Between battlin drugs, jockeys, stewards, and trainers
this game is difficult. Other than a few minor blips
its so peachy simple.

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes,
well sometimes the bar eats you....
- forgot who said that.

this was easy... nothing difficult about this one.

Then I guess the Steward mystery is solved.
It is a tough job?

This is the way I saw it. Then again, if i had some change on the race, i might feel differently. I posted the link to the chart for the race. I dont think that no call was too tough to make. These were maidens.

http://equibase.com/static/chart/pdf/BEL070308USA2.pdf