Beatties!?!?!??!?
 

Can someone please tell me who these kentucky backwoods incest ridden people are?

Todd Beattie
Stephanie Beattie
Ryan Beattie
Richard Beattie

They are all winning at 98% at Penn National. Never heard of them but apparently they are better at training horses than Bill Mott and Ron McAnally.

Horse racing has become nothing but a cesspool of criminals.

Stephanie and Ryan bring runners to CT quite a bit. Don't remember seeing the other names but I am sure their training methods are a family tradition. I don't have the numbers in front of me but Stephanie wins at close to 40% and Ryan isn't far behind. Bet Stephanie over Ryan if they both have entries in the same race.

The real head scratcher is when Stephanie Beattie, Ryan Beattie and Scott Lake all have an entry in the same race.

Todd trains Fabulous Strike, that's about all I know.

DrugS could probably give you more info on this motley crue.

DrugS did an interesting couple of posts last summer, I believe, on the relatively performances of the Beatties up at Penn last year. Todd, of course, is the conditioner of the awesome Fabulous Strike.

I think Ryan "Buck" Beattie is the nephew of Todd Beattie and Stephanie is the daughter of former trainer Clarence Minnich. Steph Beattie works together with high % trainer David Wells. Richard is Todd's assistant trainer and his brother

these are the trainers who are syphoning all of the purse $ out of charlestown and penn national, sometime with multiple entries in each race, they can pretty mush take any run of the mill $4000 claimer and turn them into a stakes horse, and commonly take horses who for example may run beyer #s in the 40s and start to run in the 90s, everyone else might as well go home!

oh by the way throw in the Cartagena family of trainers and you pretty much have every winner (slight exageration)--but not much--

Why would anyone possibly care what goes on at Penn National anyways? Especially at this time of the year with Belmont just about to open and the Triple Crown 9 days away from starting? That place is a toy track, and what else would you expect to happen from a toy track?

Thanks for your doltish comment.

not everyone follows those great ny tracks like aqueduct and finger lakes....there are other tracks running this time of year, nine days away from the start of the tc, also probably nine days after, too.

:rolleyes:

I can read the form. I know they have a high win percentage. What I'm wondering is where did they come from and why do they win at such a high clip.

It seems to me they are cheatin!! But that is like saying grass is green.

Penn National has just built a new casino and as such, is absolutely attracting a higher caliber of equine a la what PID did last year. Not every track is Saratoga. I know that was just a little trolling we saw earlier, but I figure I still need to stand up for Penn. At least they have a turf course there.

Is there anyone you think isn't cheating?

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From my perspective, Bay Meadows and No. Cal racing in particular is a cesspool of cheating trainers. These guys get away with daily thievary and the track does zero about it. I have no concern at all about it closing.
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Yes, anyone not winning over 20% is likely not cheating.

Trolling? Because I gave a negative opinion of a track who has 4 brothers that are making up for 98% of all wins? Doesnt that tell you enough right there? I'll quit betting NYRA tracks when the Dutrow brothers account for any more than 40% of all wins.

Geez, sorry for having an opinion that doesnt agree with yours. Maybe I should move to a communistic nation.

No, you're certainly allowed to have as misinformed an opinion as you'd like. Let me know when you find that three bedroom colonial you've been seeking in a communistic country.

Good.

He asked for information on trainers and you gave a dumb statement about toy tracks and how nobody should be betting them. If you don't think that is trolling then you are pretty dense. Now a drama queen act about moving to a communist nation? Perhaps you should save your opinions for topics you know about such as Ben Affleck's betting patterns.

4 brothers, um, sorry one of them seems female, so 3 brothers and 1 sister account for 98% of all wins at a track....what kind of information would you want to know? Their hair colors? Favorite kind of beer?
Sounds like a great track to bet. I wonder what a $100 win bet does to the pools there on a typical night?

I'd like to hear Einstein defend his math...did he add percentages?

Stephanie S. Beattie 75 25 33.3
Richard L. Beattie 2 0 0
Ryan Beattie 33 10 30.3
Todd M. Beattie 55 14 25.5


49/165= 29.6%

Oh and there has been 276 races ytd....so 49/276=17.7%

Richard is really dragging down the rest of the Beattie clan, so it seems.

I'd also say, for the record, Penn National is a great track to play on a random Friday or Saturday night after cards are over at Keeneland or Belmont or wherever. Relatively full fields, generally decent pools, and with the renovations they've made to the place in the last year, I really don't have a problem with the track at all.

First, the Beatties do not account for 98% the wins at Penn National. So if you want to start slinging out garbage, at least have your facts correct.

- Murray L. Rojas is the leading trainer at Penn this year, and was last year.
- Stephanie S. Beattie is winning at 33% this year.
- Todd M. Beattie is winning at 25% this year.
- Ryan Beattie is winning at 30% this year.
- The three Beattie trainers have almost the same combined number of starters as Scott Lake at Penn for 2008.

According to Equibase there have been 414 winners at Penn National this year. Of the 414 winners the Beatties have won 51 of those races. That means, Gander, that the Beatties combined have won 12% of all races at Penn National. So your 98% figure used in defence of this arguement was only off by a mere 86%.

Our stats are a bit different, but I think the point was the same...nice work.

You all are missing the point. I would like to know the win percentages when there is a Beattie horse entered in a race, how often does one of them win.

Either way, to me, it's like betting on how fast my turd will flush down the toliet. I would have more fun using a blow dryer in the tub.

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I didnt sling out the facts. Go back and re-read the thread starter. It wasnt me, it was Split Rock. Why dont you get your facts straight before you post.

This game has very little integrity and the aforementioned do not help any

Good post. As I've often said -- don't confuse the issues with facts! LOL.

You really shouldn't confuse these inferences, allegations, accusations, etc., with your facts. LOL.

Eric

Yeah, but he was correcting a guy who thinks Ben Affleck and Kid Rock will have a major say in the final Kentucky Derby odds.

Just out of curiosity, if you are simply talking about the win % on the entire Beattie family, and looking at the win % any time that any one of them has a horse in a race -- exactly what conclusions can be drawn from that?

Eric

My guess is Split Rock would be pleased if Penn closed down because it is a "cesspool of cheating trainers"... would that be correct, Mr. Split Rock?

Oh yeah, since Pletcher, Dutrow, Assmussen, etc. have all been caught cheating, shouldn't we close down ALL tracks?

Oh sorry, I'm being obtuse.


I'll go back to the Contest page now ;)

Pay attention to who Stephanie Beattie's owners are and that will tell you eveything.

Cole and Toby Roth are two of them. Cole also uses Lake. Cole is a similar owner to Mike Gill in tactics.

Penn National should have been closed many years ago after the litany of race fixing that was going on there.