Commentator ?
 

Anyone know where he is going ? Thought he was running in the Carter, obviously he did not. Where is the monster pointing ?

Met Mile, where he'll run up the track if he doesn't get the lead as usual.

i am excited......
he is a different horse, he is a freak
is the met a definite ?

That's the last I heard. And I don't know what you mean by "different horse". To me, he's still the same very fast one-dimensional runner he's always been.

are you as excited as me ? i read that the whitney is the major goal.... that really pumps me up, maybe horse of the year campaign if curlin stumbles.

Excited for the return of a seven-year old sprinter that quits every time he doesn't get the lead?

i love the difference of opinion, you say that
i say easily the best horse in the world, not named curlin, and i still think he could speed pop curlin up to 1 1/8

of course you also thought Curlin was in over his head in Dubai.

If he gets it he's awful hard to catch! The handicap division looks a little weak. He could steal the Whitney!

he could steal a lot more then that... the met does not make much sense to me, there could be a lot of early speed. why not races like the pimlico special, stephen foster, where he could be lone speed, or if not lone, at least the speed of the speed

Oh, there's no doubt that he does some awesome things when he gets to the front. He's very fast and could indeed steal the Whitney, I just have a dislike for horses like him who rack up giant figures when loose and then spit the bit when they don't get their way.

I can think of several horses who are better than he is that aren't named Curlin; Tiago and Heatseeker come to mind. I'd take Electrify over him. I'm sure there's another 5 or so if I stopped to think about it. Commentator is a one dimensional sort who thrills those who only see speed figures and don't understand how the trip affects the figure.

your very funny tonight, tiago and heatseeker are nice horses, but unless they have a rabit, they never get to commentator.

Has Commentator beat anyone of note since the summer of 2005? I think we all know the answer to that.

ok slick... say there is a monster field of

commentator
heatseeker
tiago
curlin
grasshopper
circular quay
go between


who is near commentator early ? NO ONE, he is dangerous in any race vs anyone

I love them... makes my job handicapping much easier and profitable!

See: last year's Tom Fool, or 2006 Forego.

Or is it only in races where you choose a paceless field?

If your only goal is to say that Commentator could bottom out a Grade I field going long then I think you're right. However, until he does it again, everyone should be skeptical. Predicting Commentator to win a race like the Whitney is as bold as predicting that Chatain will win the Forego.

NT

In a match race, Curlin would beat Commentator at virtually any distance. Adding others to the field won't change anything.

grasshopper would press commentator the whole way and he would just fold like he always does. curlin would lay 3rd early on and pick up the victory. commentator is 7 years old and maybe he could beat that field when he was younger, but it's doubtful he could beat that many consistent runners in one field now.

I like Commentator too.. but that's a pipe dream. He needs to stay at 8 furlongs or less to have a chance these days.

a seven year old can certainly beat younger, i would disagree with that part of it. don't forget john henry only seemed to get better with age.

but he is a horse who has to have everything go his way to look good.

Why?
First of all - as a fan - I enjoy watching horses run really fast races. He does that at times, and hardly any other horses running today actually seem capable of that.
Perhaps more importantly, as a handicapper, don't horses that are that predictable often make for winning bets?
If you see the horse in a race where he isn't likely to get the early lead, people that can recognize his limitations stand to make money looking eleswhere compared to those that are simply dazzled by big figures.
On the other hand, in a race where he does figure to make the early lead easily, he is likely to be a very good value if there are also any other quality horses in the field.
What's not to like?

Speaking purely from a fan's perspective, I don't really give a **** about "really fast races" that are run only under perfect circumstances. I like consistent, mature, versatile horses who continually run their race, no matter what. Like Curlin.

well said. i second that.

agree hossey....grasshopper would be second, but i'd say 2-4 lenghts off commentator... and goin 1 1/8 at the age of 7 he could beat this group

pipe dream ? the major goal this year is the whitney, so i dont think 8 or less is in the thoughts.

[quote=DaHoss9698]I think everyone loves horses like that. Problem is, there are just so few of them. Obviously Commentator is inconsistent, but he is also very fragile. I'm not making excuses or even trying to make him seem like he is more horse than he really is. But when he is on, he's damn good and it's fun watching him when he brings his "A" game.[/QUOTwh

he losses when he gets pressed through very very fast fractions. dont most ?
why has he not been stretched out again in so long ? i think he can be most effective at 1 1/8, even now.

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i can check for you...

Well no kidding, but these days if you only like horses that fit that description you won't like 99.999999999% of the horses out there.

To answer the real question of this thread, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the CD Handicap on Derby Day. Seems like the next real good fit.

makes sense to me.... i want him to go long.... how long is the cd handicap ?

i have to be honest... he is the best horse i have ever seen run LIVE AND IN PERSON...his whitney over st liam was gigantic, and the next race... just read the chart....UNDER ATTACK...... st liam comes back to win the breeders cup, does that not say enough about commentator

It is a 250,000 7f gift for the one turn wonder.
He is fun to watch.

But he will have to enter
a claiming race to win at two turns again.

I cant remember the race exactly but I remember
Spanish Chestnut and the other fast horse damn
I cant remember. think it was Pomeroy. Just bit
into him and he just wilted in the stretch. There
are a number of clear memories of him just absolutely
getting swallowed in a stretch run if he got challenged.

But its nice to see the old one still running.
Just dont crucify the horse making him go two turns.
Keep him at Belmont if you want him to run longer;
he dies turning twice.

Eh, I disagree. I'd say Commentator is in the minority as a horse that quits if he doesn't get his way.

a claming race ??????? to win at two turns ? are you kidding me ? do you not read, the goal is the whitney. he is being pointed to the whitney, and he's argubly the fastest horse in the world.

you make it like he just quits, a lot of horses quit when they go 22-44.1 for 7 furlongs