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Coach Pants 04-01-2008 10:54 PM

Hoosiers hire Crean
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3324439

LOL. What a terrible hire.

Dwayne Wade made this guy.

skippy3481 04-01-2008 11:28 PM

Completely disagree, this is exactly what indiana needed. A solid character guy who is a rock solid recruiter. Wade was a once in a lifetime player for him but he has already show he can recruit in indiana(dominic james) and he was an assistant in the big ten. The hoosiers are going to suck for 2 or 3 years because of sanctions and the fallout from those. This is exactly the type of person the school needed to hire.

Coach Pants 04-01-2008 11:32 PM

The Hoosiers are going to suck for longer than that with this clown.

whodey17 04-02-2008 01:08 AM

Why do you say he is a clown? He is 190-96 at Marquette, 5 NCAA appearances, and 1 final four. Marquette isnt like the best place to play and he is competitive in the Big East. His record is clean and he can recruit pretty well.

IU will lose all 5 starters and prob their 2 recruits. Going to be slim on wins for IU the next three years. Years 4 and 5 will tell how good of a coach he is.

pmayjr 04-02-2008 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
Why do you say he is a clown? He is 190-96 at Marquette, 5 NCAA appearances, and 1 final four. Marquette isnt like the best place to play and he is competitive in the Big East. His record is clean and he can recruit pretty well.

IU will lose all 5 starters and prob their 2 recruits. Going to be slim on wins for IU the next three years. Years 4 and 5 will tell how good of a coach he is.

The only problem is, IU has a delusional fan base. They don't wanna hear about sanctions and fallout of recruits and players. They just want wins, and if it take until year 4 to get good again, Creen won't be there to see the fruits of his labor.

wiphan 04-02-2008 09:27 AM

Rumor has it in Milwaukee that Crean was forced out of Marquette. Why would he leave Marquette with a bunch of seniors returning and take less $ at IU? He also is going to a program that is a complete mess right now and expects to at least win the big ten and be very competitive in NCAA tournament every year. Crean has also been very vocal that he doesn't like to coach against Izzo and Bo Ryan. I also agree with Coach Pants that Dwayne Wade made him. He has won a total of 1 NCAA games since Wade left. He is not a very good coach and actually has had a lot of talent at Marquette and done nothing with it. Good luck Indiana. Being a WI badger fan I am happy to see Indiana hire an overated coach.

Coach Pants 04-02-2008 09:59 AM

Exactly.

And he also is going to be under intense pressure to beat Kentucky. And with the recruiting class they have coming in, and Gillispie's ability to turn a program around quickly, the chance of that happening in the next 4 years is highly unlikely.

Mortimer 04-02-2008 10:07 AM

I can't believe they passed on Kevin Mackey.

Mortimer 04-02-2008 10:16 AM

I can't believe they passed on wise guy HossenDossen.

Mortimer 04-02-2008 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Exactly.

And he also is going to be under intense pressure to beat Kentucky. And with the recruiting class they have coming in, and Gillispie's ability to turn a program around quickly, the chance of that happening in the next 4 years is highly unlikely.



JUMPIN' JEHOSAFAT!!!!





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Scav 04-02-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Exactly.

And he also is going to be under intense pressure to beat Kentucky. And with the recruiting class they have coming in, and Gillispie's ability to turn a program around quickly, the chance of that happening in the next 4 years is highly unlikely.

Gillispie got a good recruiting class coming in? Good knowledge right there....

Mortimer 04-02-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:

I demand a Fair Witness be called....sir!

Mortimer 04-02-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Gillispie got a good recruiting class coming in? Good knowledge right there....


^^^ Pot calls stainless steel kettle black.

Coach Pants 04-02-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Gillispie got a good recruiting class coming in? Good knowledge right there....

Is that sarcasm?

They got a commitment from DeAndre Liggins. Chicago kid.

Also got Darius Miller from Mason County. That's where Chris Lofton played ball and won a state championship. Miller cut down the nets this year.

Scav 04-02-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
^^^ Pot calls stainless steel kettle black.

^^^WEAK ass response

Scav 04-02-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Is that sarcasm?

They got a commitment from DeAndre Liggins. Chicago kid.

Also got Darius Miller from Mason County. That's where Chris Lofton played ball and won a state championship. Miller cut down the nets this year.

Not at all Coach, that is real good knowledge to know he has a bunch of good recruits coming in, especially for early in the year when everyone is figuring themselves out. I don't really follow on that level except for SIU.

SIU also has three real good recruits, one of them was a top 15 in the nation I think, from STL.

Cannon Shell 04-02-2008 02:02 PM

I have no opinion on Crean but in the current set up in college basketball no one needs a 3 or 4 year program to contend. Just hitch your star to a one (soon to be 2???) year player like Beasley and you are instant contenders. Not that there are tons of them out there but a good recruiting class can get you to the sweet 16 and further really quick. When you are matched up against seniors it is usually to the advantage of the young guys because seniors usually arent very good.

philcski 04-02-2008 02:04 PM

I happen to like Crean, not sure why everybody's so down on him. If anything I was surprised he took the Indiana job, with the sanctions and their delusional fanbase, and even more surprised to hear he was pushed out of Milwaukee... what exactly has he done wrong?

wiphan 04-02-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I happen to like Crean, not sure why everybody's so down on him. If anything I was surprised he took the Indiana job, with the sanctions and their delusional fanbase, and even more surprised to hear he was pushed out of Milwaukee... what exactly has he done wrong?

It isn't what he has done wrong, it is what has he done right? 1 win in the NCAA tourny since the departure of D-wade. What makes him a good coach? He has recruited well and done absolutely nothing with it. Why would he take the IU job for less $ than he was making at Marquette? No real statement from Marquette about this. IU is in disarray. It all adds up to someone at Marquette telling him to take the job.

Mortimer 04-02-2008 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
^^^WEAK ass response



True...but this is my all time fav:







Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I like both dogs tonight and Xavier to win outright

Xavier +6.5
Xavier +220
Louisville +6


Scav 04-02-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
True...but this is my all time fav:








You must have missed the post where I made it up THE NEXT DAY, Mortikins

Mortimer 04-02-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You must have missed the post where I made it up THE NEXT DAY, Mortikins





Oh.












The world's greatest break even ramblin',gamblin' man.



:rolleyes:

Scav 04-02-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Oh.












The world's greatest break even ramblin',gamblin' man.



:rolleyes:

^^^born a ramblin man!!!

Coach Pants 03-03-2010 10:40 PM

Bump.

Yeah...

11 in a row.

Patrick333 03-04-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
Why do you say he is a clown? He is 190-96 at Marquette, 5 NCAA appearances, and 1 final four. Marquette isnt like the best place to play and he is competitive in the Big East. His record is clean and he can recruit pretty well.

IU will lose all 5 starters and prob their 2 recruits. Going to be slim on wins for IU the next three years. Years 4 and 5 will tell how good of a coach he is.

Agreed. I think it's a great hire. To have the success this guys had in the Big East (the worlds best conference) show me that he can coach.

rpncaine 03-04-2010 08:29 AM

He needs at least 2-3 more years to show what can be done at IU. IU was in the dumps when he took over, I expect a competative .500 team in the Big 10 next year and then steady improvement over the following two years. IU nation will be all over his a** if that doesn't happen.

Coach Pants 03-11-2011 09:30 AM

Hi guys. A few of you still bought yourself some time but if you want to admit you're wrong now I'm ok with it.

You'd really be crazy to support this guy. Choice is yours.

rpncaine 03-11-2011 09:41 AM

Agree, next year will be make or break. If they don't show big time improvement the dogs will be out. Top 3 or 4 in the Big10 is a must.

wiphan 03-11-2011 09:53 AM

Coach,

Looks like we were right. I am still enjoying having him coach in the Big ten since they are absolutely zero chance of beating WI with that idiot as a coach.

Coach Pants 03-11-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 760026)
Coach,

Looks like we were right. I am still enjoying having him coach in the Big ten since they are absolutely zero chance of beating WI with that idiot as a coach.

It looks that way. I still think he'll get two more years and if he does this thread will be highly entertaining.

Pants II 04-03-2014 08:51 AM

Ok so Gillispie didn't pan out at UK but I believe that mentioning Darius Miller negated that mistake on my part...but..

how do you guys like Crean now? How do you like that 14 million buyout this year, 12 million next year, 7.5 million the following and 4 million after that?

Hoosiers are done. Battle, outside of the Crean hire, has done an outstanding job with the athletics department...but that doesn't really matter in Bloomington.

I do enjoy watching this program suffer. But even I have sympathy for a few of their fans. It's absolutely brutal for the Hoosiers.

Crown@club 04-03-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 971754)
Ok so Gillispie didn't pan out at UK but I believe that mentioning Darius Miller negated that mistake on my part...but..

how do you guys like Crean now? How do you like that 14 million buyout this year, 12 million next year, 7.5 million the following and 4 million after that?

Hoosiers are done. Battle, outside of the Crean hire, has done an outstanding job with the athletics department...but that doesn't really matter in Bloomington.

I do enjoy watching this program suffer. But even I have sympathy for a few of their fans. It's absolutely brutal for the Hoosiers.

Just horrid, brutal, everything.....

Had some very good talent come through the past 6 years, but has done nothing to show for it. In-game coaching has been a disaster. The game at Illinois this year alone is a perfect example of how horrible Crean is coaching. Make an A** of the program with the Sweet 16 rings. Wait a minute 6 years, 2 postseason trips. "Turrrrrrrrrible"

Pants II 04-03-2014 02:33 PM

I would look competent coaching Dwayne Wade.

Crean fired was a very popular April Fools joke.

:D


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