Graded Stakes Earnings List
 

Fully updated... Red = Derby next start...

Earnings still available..

Lexington:
1. $195k (X)
2. $65k (X) if with existing earning >$65k
3. $32.5k


Graded Stakes Earnings List (04/12/08)

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000
X Proud Spell Larry Jones $880,000
3 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
4 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000
5 Gayego Paulo Lobo $640,000

6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Monba Todd Pletcher $500,000
9 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
10 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $329,000

11 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
12 Recapturetheglory $300,000
13 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
X Salute the Sarge Eric Guillot $258,940
14 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767
X Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
15 Eight Belles Larry Jones $210,000

16 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $207,660
X Massive Drama Dale Romans $205,200
17 Visionaire Michael Matz $202,500
18 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
19 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000
20 Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000

21 Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996
22 Indian Sun Dan Hendricks $154,000
23 Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
24 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $150,000
X El Gato Malo Craig Dollase $145,000
25 Hey Byrn Eddie Plesa $140,000

26 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
27 Coast Guard David Hoffmans $130,000
28 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
29 Golden Spikes Marty Wolfson $118,000
30 Tres Borrachos Beau Greeley $118,000

31 Golden Yank Gary Thomas 115,000
32 Yankee Bravo Patrick Gallagher $105,000
33 Racecar Rhapsody Ken McPeek $90,871 (LEX)
34 Shediak (FR) Richard Mandella $78,576
35 Kentucky Bear Reade Baker $75,000

36 King's Silver Son Steve Asmussen $60,000
37 Texas Wildcatter Todd Pletcher $53,750
38 Isabull Steve Hobby $50,000
39 Medjool David Hoffmans $47,500
40 Stevil Nick Zito $49,500

41 Cannonball Wesley Ward $18,800
42 Liberty Bull Tom Amoss $18,750
43 Behindatthebar Todd Pletcher $3,000
44 Samba Rooster Bob Baffert $0
45 Big Glen Frank Brothers $0

A deserving horse like Rock Hard Ten got excluded from the Derby because he was DQ'd from 2nd place in the Santa Anita Derby.

A horse like a Big Brown, Hey Byrn, Face The Cat or even Elisyum Fields (with just 70K) all could find themselves excluded even with a big effort in the Florida Derby if they foul someone.

Where do the fillies (Country Star and potentially the Larry Jones' duo) rank on this list? Wouldn't Eight Bells be about $60K with County Star and Proud Spell both well over $500k?

Country Star would check in as 3rd with $565k... Don't have Eight Belles and Proud Spell handy, but Proud Spell has to be over $500,000 and Eight Belles maybe $90,000.

Why was he "deserving"? They had a year to get him some earnings and didn't do it.

thanks...

That Delta Jackpot race is just a joke. has anyone in that race even moderately ran well since then?

Z Fortune ran 2nd to Pyro but then did nothing in his next start. . . That race is definitely an anti-key race. . .

millionaire rule
 

I thought there used to be a millionaire rule. Any horse that has over a $1 mil in earnings doesn't win the Ky Derby (not counting Street Sense)

Z Humor is the horse from the Delta Jackpot, who also isn't much, but has obviously been mismanaged.

Those silly rules are all meant to be broken. I'm sure no one with exactly $123,417 has ever won the Derby. Doesn't mean Blackberry Road can't win it cause of that. He can't win it because he's too slow.

He was trained by the hapless Jason Ormen - and was a very late developing horse who didn't make his stakes debut until the Santa Anita Derby.

I say he was deserving because he would have certainly taken more money than any of the horses coming in from So. Cal that year.

I assume you would add Massive Drama to list of "Unlikley for Derby", and would guess at least 3 or 4 others currently in the top 20 won't run on May 3 due to obvious limitations on talent (Turf War, Anak Nakal, etc..). However, some owners just want to get there, regardless of how remote their chances of winning are.

I wouldn't include any Zayat horse with enough earnings as "unlikely" no matter what the horse has to go through to do it.

Ok thanks- I always get those two mixed up

I imagine they come up with those silly rules for a reason.
not counting Funny Cide (gelding), Barbaro (RAN curse) and Street Sense (BCJC winner) just to name a few.
The logic behind millionaire rule could be something about peaking early. Best horse in November/ February isn't the best in May.

it's not how I play the race. Just remembered the list

I'm pretty sure Salute The Sarge has nearly $250,000 in graded earnings from last year.

He's nominated to this weekend's San Miguel Stakes at Santa Anita.

Has any Delta Jackpot winner ever done much afterwards?

I see Nikki'sgoldensteed listed here, but not on either Bloodhorse or Kentuckyderby.com. Have I missed something?

Nevermind, did some quick google research and discovered why.

Anyone see an updated list anywhere?

--Dunbar

I poked around Bloodhorse, but still looking for an updated list.

Steve, the list isn't showing bold or italics

Top 20 self explainatory for now and I took out the unintendeds...

thanks for doing this Steve, been looking all morning for an updated list. I get the feeling that War Pass is going, at least I hope he is for selfish gambling reasons :)

larry stewart in the l.a. times is reporting that bob black jack won't go.

chromer,

Thx for spotting this and bringing it forward... And good for the Kasparoff Brothers and Co. for being prudent. The best stories in this crop are the inexpensive horses from 'everyday' connections doing well like this horse and Smooth Air. Was telling Haskin yesterday that Bob Black Jack reminded me of the King of the Roxy/Stormello type 3yo, and can be super productive if they treat him right.

What kind of finish in the Arkansas would lock up a spot in the Derby gate for Blackberry Road?

3rd for sure and even likely with a 4th place finish.

Thanks very much for creating and posting the list, Steve.

Looks like you have 19 & 20 reversed.

--Dunbar

Will Pletcher (assuming Monba does not get the earnings needed this weekend) bring back Atoned or TW in the Lexington and try to at least get one in the starting gate?

From the Keeneland Barn Notes...

“Monba went well this morning, and he’s a possibility for the Blue Grass or the (Grade 2 Coolmore) Lexington (on April 19),” Pletcher said about the son of Monarchos who races for Starlight, Lucarelli and Saylor. Monba won his career debut at Keeneland last October, then won a one-mile allowance at Churchill Downs. “Probably have to make a decision on Wednesday,” Pletcher added.

Stopping by the Pletcher barn Sunday morning was Cot Campbell, head of Dogwood Stable, whose Atoned finished fourth in Saturday’s Illinois Derby (G2) at Hawthorne Race Course. Atoned turned in the best finish of four Pletcher horses that competed in major Kentucky Derby preps across the country.



“It was a funny race yesterday because they finished like they started,” Campbell said of the Illinois Derby. “They just kind of got in single file and went around there.



“I don’t think he liked the surface and there wasn’t a lot of speed in ahead of him. I don’t know whether we may run him in the (Coolmore) Lexington, which is possible, or wait and try the Preakness (G1) or skip that and wait for the Peter Pan (G2). Those would seem to be the options.”



One option not mentioned was the Kentucky Derby and Campbell seemed to raise the white flag on that possibility.



“I don’t think he would get in with $125,000 (in graded stakes earnings),” Campbell said. “We wouldn’t throw anything out today, but maybe after he has been back here two or three days, we will see how he is and figure out something. But I would think $125,000 wouldn’t cut it (for being in the top 20 in graded stakes earnings).”

12,

I think Atoned might sneak in after a defection or three and injury or two.. Monba is NOT certain for Bluegrass... Doubt McNair shoves Texas Wildcatter into anything. Not his style.

And since you brought up Stonerside, here's a picture of a REAL racehorse winning the Wood Memorial... ;)


Congaree
2001 Wood Memorial
(108 Beyer/1:47.4)

BTW, graded earnings list fully updated with notations...

You might want to include Eight Belles. Connections are going to monitor the Derby contenders to decide whether or not to run for the roses.

Fully updated and accurate..

*** = Derby starter assuming 'uncertains' DO NOT run...

Red = Derby next start...

Earning avails..

Bluegrass:
1. $450k (X)
2. $150k (X)
3. $75k (X) with existing earnings >$50k
4. $37.5k

Arkansas:
1. $600k (X)
2. $200k (X)
3. $100k (X) with existing earnings >$30k
4. $50k

Holy Bull:
1. $90k (X) if with existing earnings >$30k
2. $45k

Lexington:
1. $195k (X)
2. $65k (X) if with existing earning >$65k
3. $32.5k



Graded Stakes Earnings List (04/07/08)

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000 (BG)
3 Proud Spell Larry Jones $880,000
4 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
5 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000

6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
9 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
10 Recapturetheglory $300,000

11 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
12 Salute the Sarge Eric Guillot $258,940
13 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767 (BG)
14 Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
15 Massive Drama Dale Romans $205,200

16 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
17 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000
18 Visionaire Michael Matz $180,000 (BG)
19 Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000
20 Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996 (BG)

21 Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
22 El Gato Malo Craig Dollase $145,000
23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000 *** (AK)
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417 *** (AK) 4th, even 5th, OK..

26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000 *** (AK) 4th, even 5th, OK..

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27 Golden Spikes Marty Wolfson $118,000
28 Golden Yank Gary Thomas 115,000 (AK) Needs 4th or >..
29 Yankee Bravo Patrick Gallagher $105,000
30 Indian Sun Dan Hendricks $104,000 (AK) Needs 4th or >..

31 Racecar Rhapsody Ken McPeek $90,871
32 Shediak (FR) Richard Mandella $78,576 (AK) Needs 3rd or >..
33 Elysium Fields Barclay Tagg $70,000 (BG/AK/HB) TBD..
34 King's Silver Son Steve Asmussen $60,000 (AK) Needs 3rd or >..
35 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $57,660 (BG) Needs 3rd or > at the least..

36 Texas Wildcatter Todd Pletcher $53,750
37 Monba Todd Pletcher $50,000 (BG) Needs 3rd, ideally 2nd..
38 Medjool David Hoffman $50,000 (BG) Needs 3rd, ideally 2nd..
39 Hey Byrn Eddie Plesa $50,000 (HB?) Needs to win Holy Bull if he goes..
40 Gayego Paulo Lobo $40,000 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..

41 Giant Moon Richard Schosberg $38,750
42 Isabull Steve Hobby $30,000 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..
43 Cannonball Wesley Ward $18,800
44 Liberty Bull Tom Amoss $18,750 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..
45 Stevil Nick Zito $12,000

Scott,

Either way, a Jones-trained filly is in a top spot on the list.. Would be very surprised by Eight Belles though. It's Proud Spell who is the appropriate Derby filly. Will have Larry Jones on ATR today or tomorrow to clarify, but I bet he won't commit to anything until Derby-Oaks Week.

Yeah, sounds like they won't commit until then:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...y_hopeful.html

Trained by Larry Jones and owned by Wilmington's Rick Porter, Eight Belles is nominated for both the May 3 Kentucky Derby and the Kentucky Oaks, the big race of the year for 3-year-old fillies that is run the day before the Derby at Churchill Downs. She has $210,000 in graded-stakes earnings, enough to make the Derby field.

Porter said last night that the filly's handlers would keep the Derby open as a possibility. A final decision does not have to be made until Derby week.

"I'd like to find a way to run in the Derby," said Porter, the owner of last year's Derby runner-up, Hard Spun.

:rolleyes:

Was going to post the same thing... but you guys beat me to it. It's the [bigheaded] owner calling the shots on this one. I like both of them quite a bit for the Oaks, however.

Love that picture of Congaree.

For once I can't say I completely disagree with him. If they were males and you looked at their past performances would they really be any worse than 4th or 5th choice?