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jcs11204 03-08-2008 06:30 PM
Commentator
 
I think he's the best horse in america, easily the fastest....

i think at 1 1/8 he would beat curlin

paisjpq 03-08-2008 06:48 PM
I know I will regret responding to this.

he's a very fast horse, and a very good horse....with very real physical issues. He's 7 years old and has only made what 18 starts?

as for the Curlin thing....WTF? no comment.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I know I will regret responding to this.

he's a very fast horse, and a very good horse....with very real physical issues. He's 7 years old and has only made what 18 starts?

as for the Curlin thing....WTF? no comment.

I just hung up on Nick, luckily I saw the original post while we were talking and I was able to convince him not to ship Commentator over for the Dubai World Cup.

the_fat_man 03-08-2008 06:59 PM
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk

paisjpq 03-08-2008 07:00 PM
I don't know why you would discourage him.....what makes you think that you know more tha pg85?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-08-2008 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I don't know why you would discourage him.....
I just hope he discouraged him from trying to sound like the Italian Don King when the press comes around looking for quotes.

As for the World Cup, he'd be loose as can be in there - and might pull a Moon Ballad.

It would be a very high risk/reward decision to run there.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:10 PM
commentator is the best horse in the usa right now.... simple

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I just hope he discouraged him from trying to sound like the Italian Don King when the press comes around looking for quotes.

He's just having fun.

Compared to some of the drivel you post on message boards he's Shakespeare.

Coach Pants 03-08-2008 07:12 PM
I don't know about that, pg. Visionaire won the Gotham and KYRIM had a wp wager on him. I'd say Visionaire is the best horse in the country right now.

paisjpq 03-08-2008 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
commentator is the best horse in the usa right now.... simple
got it, thanks.

have you consulted KYRIM's "experts"? I would like to make sure that everyone is in the same line here....

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's just having fun.

Compared to some of the drivel you post on message boards he's Shakespeare.


i dont get it ? the numbers say he is one of the fastest horses ever ?
he defeated a champion going 1 1/8, what is the problem ?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-08-2008 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's just having fun.

Compared to some of the drivel you post on message boards he's Shakespeare.
Be Jealous of my good looks all you want.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i dont get it ? the numbers say he is one of the fastest horses ever ?
he defeated a champion going 1 1/8, what is the problem ?

First of all, it's bad enough you are posting at all, but repeating your posts should be a criminal offense. Secondly, why are you quoting a response I made to another poster as though I am speaking to you ( try to answer only once )?

The problem with Commentator has never been his talent.....the problem ( duh ) is keeping him sound. He is a 7YO, who has made 17 starts in what is now his 5th year of racing, so just hold your horses before you start planning too ambitious a campaign for him. First and foremost, hope he stays sound, and then perhaps, just perhaps, he will get a chance to run up to his true ability....wherever he runs.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:18 PM
you guys are corny, the speed numbers back me up on this one,

why is this funny or a joke ?
he is a special horse

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
First of all, it's bad enough you are posting at all, but repeating your posts should be a criminal offense. Secondly, why are you quoting a response I made to another poster as though I am speaking to you ( try to answer only once )?

The problem with Commentator has never been his talent.....the problem ( duh ) is keeping him sound. He is a 7YO, who has made 17 starts in what is now his 5th year of racing, so just hold your horses before you start planning too ambitious a campaign for him. First and foremost, hope he stays sound, and then perhaps, just perhaps, he will get a chance to run up to his true ability....wherever he runs.
who is better then him right now in america ? please answer that, anywhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/8, who is better ?

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Be Jealous of my good looks all you want.
You capitalized jealous because........?

Eh Shakespeare?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-08-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
he is a special horse
You are very special yourself.

Don't ever forget it either.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:21 PM
i would take him over curlin at 1 1/8

would you ?

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You are very special yourself.

Don't ever forget it either.

whatever you say...

penna ducks him today, smart move because i like chatain

paisjpq 03-08-2008 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcs11204
you guys are corny, the speed numbers back me up on this one,

why is this funny or a joke ?
he is a special horse

he is a special horse like you are a special poster....both have infirmities.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
who is better then him right now in america ? please answer that, anywhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/8, who is better ?

He doesn't have a bigger fan than me, but unlike you, the guy who told us Buffalo Man and Giant Moon couldn't lose today, I don't make outlandish claims about him. He's a wonderful racehorse. That's enough for me.

There are many very talented horses who for a variety of reasons don't get a chance to show it.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You are very special yourself.

Don't ever forget it either.

You're just Jealous of his good looks.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He doesn't have a bigger fan than me, but unlike you, the guy who told us Buffalo Man and Giant Moon couldn't lose today, I don't make outlandish claims about him. He's a wonderful racehorse. That's enough for me.

There are many very talented horses who for a variety of reasons don't get a chance to show it.
i loved buffalo man and giant moon, and lost money on both of them.
i am not affraid to voice my opinion

The Indomitable DrugS 03-08-2008 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You're just Jealous of his good looks.
Keep on Biting at my ankles.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He doesn't have a bigger fan than me, but unlike you, the guy who told us Buffalo Man and Giant Moon couldn't lose today, I don't make outlandish claims about him. He's a wonderful racehorse. That's enough for me.

There are many very talented horses who for a variety of reasons don't get a chance to show it.

ok i understand... where is he pointing to next ?

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i loved buffalo man and giant moon, and lost money on both of them.
i am not affraid to voice my opinion
No you're not.

Unfortunately.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
ok i understand... where is he pointing to next ?

The AP Smithwick.

Danzig 03-08-2008 07:29 PM
:rolleyes:

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-08-2008 07:29 PM
the rose famliy stable on big stakes days comes though again........

and congrats to nick ..and his staff..great job......

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:31 PM
commentator would beat curlin at 1 1/8

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-08-2008 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jcs11204
commentator would beat curlin at 1 1/8
oh my god!!!!!

paisjpq 03-08-2008 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
oh my god!!!!!
I belive the correct phrase is HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:47 PM
i am so excited... this quote is off drf.com

Mr. Farmer would love to win the Whitney with him again," said Zito. "He beat the Horse of the Year, Saint Liam, in 2005, and to do it again at the age of 7 would be the ultimate. He's had his share of problems along the way, but we'll keep him together the best we can and hope everything works out. He's a gelding, so he'll be running for the fans to watch - and that includes me, because I'm a fan myself."


2 time whitney winner ? hall of famer ?

10 pnt move up 03-08-2008 07:57 PM
In all seriousness, is there a faster horse in recent memory that is so tied to being loose on the lead?

jcs11204 03-08-2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
In all seriousness, is there a faster horse in recent memory that is so tied to being loose on the lead?
war emblem was fast, not this fast though


today he was pressed early and kept going, which is something he has never done, also a great sign since he is pointing to the whitney.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-08-2008 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
First of all, it's bad enough you are posting at all, but repeating your posts should be a criminal offense. Secondly, why are you quoting a response I made to another poster as though I am speaking to you ( try to answer only once )?

The problem with Commentator has never been his talent.....the problem ( duh ) is keeping him sound. He is a 7YO, who has made 17 starts in what is now his 5th year of racing, so just hold your horses before you start planning too ambitious a campaign for him. First and foremost, hope he stays sound, and then perhaps, just perhaps, he will get a chance to run up to his true ability....wherever he runs.

I hate it when horses with as much talent as this one can't stay sound. It is also hard to tell if you don't have inside information on the animal, when they are feeling their best and ready to go and win, or they put in a clunker of a race because they are hurting a bit. I have seen Commentator be absolutely brillant, and seen him have performances that would have left me scratching my head if he didn't have such a low number of starts all these years.

Glad you talked him out of sending him to Dubai. Definitely the right decision. Now, maybe he can win some more GIs in the states with proper timing and management.

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2008 08:07 PM
Can you imagine if someone actually believed me that Nick was planning on sending him to Dubai?

Thank God that didn't happen.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-08-2008 08:07 PM
[quote=kentuckyrosesinmay]
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
First of all, it's bad enough you are posting at all, but repeating your posts should be a criminal offense. Secondly, why are you quoting a response I made to another poster as though I am speaking to you ( try to answer only once )?

The problem with Commentator has never been his talent.....the problem ( duh ) is keeping him sound. He is a 7YO, who has made 17 starts in what is now his 5th year of racing, so just hold your horses before you start planning too ambitious a campaign for him. First and foremost, hope he stays sound, and then perhaps, just perhaps, he will get a chance to run up to his true ability....wherever he runs.[/QUOTE]


I hate it when horses with as much talent as this one can't stay sound. It is also hard to tell if you don't have inside information on the animal, when they are feeling their best and ready to go and win, or they put in a clunker of a race because they are hurting a bit. I have seen Commentator be absolutely brillant, and seen him have performances that would have left me scratching my head if he didn't have such a low number of starts all these years.

Glad you talked him out of sending him to Dubai. Definitely the right decision. Now, maybe he can win some more GIs in the states with proper timing and management.
just so your not more confused..andy was the one who recomended commentator running in the whitney.........

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-08-2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Can you imagine if someone actually believed me that Nick was planning on sending him to Dubai?

Thank God that didn't happen.
Sorry...excuse me...

I was trying to say good job in a round about way. It's not like I haven't seen trainers over the years make stupider moves, and I don't follow Zito that closely.

jcs11204 03-08-2008 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Can you imagine if someone actually believed me that Nick was planning on sending him to Dubai?

Thank God that didn't happen.
i did not belive, knew you were trying to be funny...

BUT why not ? the mile, he would jog.... not the world cup, there might be to much other early speed, plus i am starting to love that 9 million doller monster jalil, i think that is propper spelling.


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