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hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 07:29 AM

hooves "KEEP HOPE ALIVE" SELECTIONS
 
gulfstream park, aq..

10 buck d/d and ext boxes. 5 buck rolling pick 3s

race 1 6f maiden claiming 16k

pp 8 final call ml 8-1 have been happy to see chop chop doing well at gs wins.......
pp 3 atlantic paws ml 6-1
pp 4 rite sneakey ml 5/2

race 2 6.5f maiden 20k

pp 1 shower of roses ml 5-1 wins ect 27.00 x5 135.00 d/d 8/1 28.40x2.5 = 71.00
pp 8 blushing tiger ml 2-1 2nd
pp 10 pywacket ml 12-1

race 3 1 mile and 1/8th st allw 16k

pp 1 stratostar ml 2-1 wins pick 3 58.20x2.5 145.5 d/d 34.60 x5= 173.00
pp 2 bentrovito ml 5-1
pp 7 zoobstick ml 3-1

race 4 1mile claiming 10.5k

pp 7 vallinzulla ml 5-1 walder arggg
pp 9 speed storm ml 8-1 2nd
pp 2 ravorite baby ml 10-1 3rd..

race 5 1mile on the turf msw 42k very tough race..

pp 7 DELTA WEEKEND !! ML 6-1
pp 10 lookalike ml 7/2 wins........
pp 1 kellys black magic ml 12-1

race 6 1 mile msw 42k

pp 8 wall street humor ml 4-1
pp 4 ky bear ml 12-1 wins d/d 10/4 93.80 x 2.5 234.50
pp 2 in orbit ml 8-1

race 7 5f turf 30claiming

pp 6 dontess ml 8-1
pp 10 sound check ml 10-1
pp 5 secret stocks 4-1

race 8 1 mile and 1/8th allw 41k

pp 1 fiercewind ml 5/2 wins
pp 7 stevens gold ml 6-1
pp 2 southern term ml 3-1 2nd

race 9 1mile and 1/16 the turf alw

pp 9 justin rules ml 10-1 wins 18.80 ext 9/1 130.20 x5 650.00 d/d 71.00x2.5 177.50
pp 1 amwahl ml 4-1 2nd
pp 7 dont wait ml 7/2 3rd good luck hooves.........tri


aq

my pick 6 take at sa

race 5

pp 1 blow out ml 6-1
pp 4 sam samir ml 6-1
pp 7 congo king ml 5-1 wins ..11.50
pp 13 mons the man ml 8-1

race 6

pp 4 dish the dirt ml 3/2
pp 9 pink diamond ml 15-1

race 7

pp 1 smart hit ml 5-1
pp 6 pecan nut ml 12-1

race 8

pp 2 surf cat ml 5/2 i dont trust solis
pp 4 i didnt do anything ml 12-1
pp 1 in sumation

race 9

pp 6 swiss ski ml 12-1
pp 7 american officer ml 12-1
pp 4 bitter bill ml 7/2

race 10

4 quacker jack ml 12-1
10 baby gotham ml 5-1

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 10:11 AM

Isn't it worth waiting to see if Gulfstream is on the turf? The indications I got yesterday were that this is doubtful.

MISTERGEE 01-21-2008 10:16 AM

track fast turf yielding

the_fat_man 01-21-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

race 5 1mile on the turf msw 42k very tough race..

pp 7 delta weekend ml 6-1
pp 10 lookalike ml 7/2
pp 1 kellys black magic ml 12-1



aq

pp 4 buy a personality ml 15-1
pp 5 double or nothing ml 4/5
pp 3 q mandate ml 9/2


Delta Weekend owes me some money. Obviously you prefer Alexander stretching out over Motion.

And, your selection of Buy A Personality is interesting, as he ran the SIGNIFICANTLY slowest 1M70yards of the day last out.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:00 AM

the alexander horse i think may have gotten a bit better in the last few months the works look good to me and corny is a plus..its a tough race

the 4 gets a shot from me because of the way he ran not the time..

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
the alexander horse i think may have gotten a bit better in the last few months the works look good to me and corny is a plus..its a tough race

the 4 gets a shot from me because of the way he ran not the time..


You love Frank.

That horse sucks big time.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:05 AM

i know you were gonna say that....ok its the 5 harpeth..yesh tough crowd

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:07 AM

Sky Copper may prove a trap but I would rather take one I saw run than guess continually with firsters. Firsters are not good bets in these races.

the_fat_man 01-21-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You love Frank.

That horse sucks big time.

I don't think the horse sucks. I can certainly make excuses for her effort last out. I just get the sense that there are better horses in the race.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:09 AM

im going back to the 7 damit..SHE came out of a much tougher race.

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I don't think the horse sucks. I can certainly make excuses for her effort last out. I just get the sense that there are better horses in the race.

Her debut has proven phony. Her second race was hideously bad. Maybe she was too close in her third race but she did no running.

Bad turf sprinters are even worse stretching out. She will take money and she is very weak.

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
im going back to the 7 damit..he came out of a much tougher race.

He's a she.

the_fat_man 01-21-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Her debut has proven phony. Her second race was hideously bad. Maybe she was too close in her third race but she did no running.

Bad turf sprinters are even worse stretching out. She will take money and she is very weak.

I disagree with the assessment of her 3rd race. Leparoux made a HUGE ERROR in that race. He came off a WIDE OPEN inside, giving it up to Catmosphere, who shot through for the win. If he stays inside he has a clear run to the wire. Leparoux takes her outside and had her behind/between horses, bothered slightly late stretch, and she didn't really have a sustained clear run in the lane.

Nonetheless, there are much better options today.

While I usually don't like sprinters going 2 turns, I was impressed by Motion's horse last out.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's a she.

SHE!!

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:25 AM

You and I have a huge difference of opinion regarding horses making inside moves. You subscribe to the shortest route to the wire theory and I believe that most horses don't want to make their ultimate moves inside, or between, other horses and are much better racing unencumbered. Plus, horses with little racing experience are far more likely to be intimidated inside.

GPK 01-21-2008 11:32 AM

Some Broad for me.

Im a huge fan of Lezcano, but Lookalike is gonna have it tough from that post.

pgardn 01-21-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
SHE!!

What does it matter hooves
with he/she stuff.
Its a tough race.
I watched all that I could and its tough.
The discussion is good
but I would feel naked making
any real commitment with these.

the_fat_man 01-21-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You and I have a huge difference of opinion regarding horses making inside moves. You subscribe to the shortest route to the wire theory and I believe that most horses don't want to make their ultimate moves inside, or between, other horses and are much better racing unencumbered. Plus, horses with little racing experience are far more likely to be intimidated inside.

No we don't. We both, essentially, look for the horse that got the clear run. In this particular case, it wasn't about getting through a tight hole, DW, was in much tighter, on the rail, all the way around the track until that point. There was a huge opening on the inside in the lane and Leparoux just chose to go outside before entering. As it was, he found trouble outside, while staying inside would've given him a clear run.

What makes all this a nuisance is that while we both know that DW is not much horse, I have a more difficult time coming to that conclusion than you ---correctly or otherwise.

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 11:35 AM

Right, I agree with the last part. Even if you are right about her last race, it's impossible to excuse the rest of her form.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:36 AM

in the end ill be right,,and delta will run huge:D

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Some Broad for me.

Im a huge fan of Lezcano, but Lookalike is gonna have it tough from that post.

another country heard from.........

GPK 01-21-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
another country heard from.........


just reporting for duty sir...

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 11:39 AM

in my humble opinion the 1 is bred the best for the turf,,,,,,,

SCUDSBROTHER 01-21-2008 12:14 PM

Hooves,what do you get for accepting MOHAMMAD? AK-47?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Hooves,what do you get for accepting MOHAMMAD? AK-47?

bean pie

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
in the end ill be right,,and delta will run huge:D

he had a tough trip........

GPK 01-21-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Some Broad for me.

Im a huge fan of Lezcano, but Lookalike is gonna have it tough from that post.


shoulda boxed the 2 of them.

$35.60 for $2

blackthroatedwind 01-21-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
he had a tough trip........


He's still a she.

She's still no horse.

She did not have a tough trip.

If she ever wins it will be against maiden claimers.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's still a she.

She's still no horse.

She did not have a tough trip.

If she ever wins it will be against maiden claimers.

ok ...but i saw a horse who did have a very bad trip:D

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 03:49 PM

corny just schooled jv ..

declansharbor 01-21-2008 04:28 PM

Nice stone cold tri in the nightcap at GP, Hooves.
Wish I would have played it straight and heavy.

the_fat_man 01-21-2008 04:32 PM

David K takes the inside route and draws, while Justin Rules has to circle and climb. Today, the rail belongs to Justin Rules. Position doesn't matter, does it?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Nice stone cold tri in the nightcap at GP, Hooves.
Wish I would have played it straight and heavy.

you know ..lucky break....

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2008 04:53 PM

fng tyler baze my 9 was a cold second at 33-1 argggg


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