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sumitas 10-29-2007 10:55 PM

Golden Missile to Milfer
 
As in Milfer Farm in Unadilla, NY. He should get lots of attention and I'm glad to see him in NY.

Coach Pants 10-29-2007 11:00 PM


sumitas 10-29-2007 11:23 PM

Tx for bumping the post ;)
25 starts for GM, hard not to like that. $7.5k stud fee, down from $10k, seems reasonable to me.

sumitas 10-30-2007 01:52 PM

Anybody have a take on this sire ? He has sired Cobalt Blue.

Cannon Shell 10-30-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Anybody have a take on this sire ? He has sired Cobalt Blue.

He will do fine in NY.

Payson Dave 10-30-2007 02:27 PM

Carlos Martin has a nice looking Golden Missile (mdn)colt by the name of Golden Weekend. A good sized chestnut with a nice stride...not likely to be a world beater but should break out of the mdn ranks soon enough.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-30-2007 02:46 PM

i still cant believe the day kent D got him beat here in the hawthorne gold cup by dust on the bottle, whom i believe still raced 3 years later and couldnt win a ALW race in LA afterwards. glen and sharon hild looked like they won the lottery after the race here. of course they were accused of cruelty on their farm but thats a whole nother can of worms

Cannon Shell 10-30-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
i still cant believe the day kent D got him beat here in the hawthorne gold cup by dust on the bottle, whom i believe still raced 3 years later and couldnt win a ALW race in LA afterwards. glen and sharon hild looked like they won the lottery after the race here. of course they were accused of cruelty on their farm but thats a whole nother can of worms

Among the horses also defeated that day was NY stallion Catienus in his last race. I would have loved to take bets that day on who would be more successful at stud.

freddymo 10-30-2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Among the horses also defeated that day was NY stallion Catienus in his last race. I would have loved to take bets that day on who would be more successful at stud.


Ramsey did a good job with Catienus early on. Whoever advised him did a really good job. I hope that person got paid.

sumitas 10-30-2007 05:37 PM

Catienus 22-5-5-2 $370,386 progeny earnings 4 crops $10,418,634
Golden Missile 25-7-7-4 $2,194,510 progeny earnings 4 crops $7,134,719

Catienus was $7,500 for 2007, Golden Missile will be $7,500 for '08

Danzig 10-30-2007 09:28 PM

catienus doing quite well, keeping him in the relatively small pond of new york, rather than being a small fish in a big pond in ky, has paid off.

pmayjr 10-30-2007 10:03 PM

Do Catenius' progeny do better on the turf compared to Golden Missile? I was thinking maybe that has a little do with Catenius' progeny earning more?

It seems like the Storm Cats overall do better than A.P. Indys on turf, so that's why I raise the question (Catenius sired by S.C., Golden Missile sired by A.P. Indy).

Danzig 10-31-2007 07:02 AM

catienus is #22 currently on the top turf sires list.
golden missile isn't on that list anywhere. catienus #25 overall on the top general sires list, again no golden missile.

sumitas 10-31-2007 11:01 AM

Precious Kitten, winner of over a mil for Catienus, is out of Kittens First who produced Kittens Joy. The Ramseys have supported Catienus and so have the NY breeders. Golden Missile has been supported too, by Adena. The sale prices of the Golden Missile offspring are much higher than Catienus. But the Catienus foal prices are trending upwards.

Catienus is in the top 75 world wide in AW and dirt earnings. He is not in the top 75 worldwide on turf. Golden Missile is not listed in the top 75 world wide on any list. Catienus has produced fine runners on all surfaces and has consistently done well at Turway.

Golden Missile has 143 runners, 68 winners and earnings of $2,440,970 this year, #83 in Ky.
Catienus has 160 runners 97 winners and earnings of $4,769,933 this year, #1 in NY.

It's no secret that Ramsey has wanted him in Ky. Will he go or will he stay ?

sumitas 10-31-2007 03:17 PM

Looks like Catienus stays in NY. $10k for 2008, up $2.5k from '07, according to the Highcliff Farm website.

sumitas 11-01-2007 02:57 PM

Golden Missile is the property of Milfer Farm, according to Nybreds.com. Milfer stood Spectacular Bid, Cure The Blues, Phone Trick, Raise A Man.

sumitas 11-09-2007 09:53 AM

This past Monday I stopped by Milfer Farm in Unadilla NY, just off I88. I was on my way back from Saratoga where I visited my weanling colt. At Milfer I was shown Golden Missile. He was in a round pen outside his barn. The golden boy looked magnificent as he overlooked the windswept hilltops many miles in the distance. He had been at the farm but a week. I also viewed the final resting places for Raise A Man, Phone Trick and Spectacular Bid. They are buried near the stallion barn in their entirety. Golden Missile looked great and when he was led from his pen into the barn he was up on his toes. Looked like he was ready to run again.

I noticed that Catienus now appears on the Ky sire list. Golden Missile is currently #2 NY sire.

freddymo 11-09-2007 10:02 AM

Hopefully he does better in NY..

hockey2315 11-09-2007 10:42 AM

Catienus is also the sire of Talent Search. . .

The Bid 11-09-2007 10:53 AM

You cant really compare GM and Catienus, one is good, one stinks.

Catineus would be a good sire anywhere, he gets runners.

slotdirt 11-09-2007 11:12 AM

Isn't Catienus the sire of Nolan's Cat?

slotdirt 11-09-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
You cant really compare GM and Catienus, one is good, one stinks.

Catineus would be a good sire anywhere, he gets runners.

Two words: Going Wild.

That's all.

The Bid 11-09-2007 11:19 AM

Yeah that is LITERALLY all

Im sure if Catienus were bragging about his kids Nolan wouldnt be the one.

sumitas 11-09-2007 11:27 AM

Cobalt Blue...

The Bid 11-09-2007 11:27 AM

Hes a crow

Cajungator26 11-09-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Isn't Catienus the sire of Nolan's Cat?

Yeah, I liked that horse a lot.

sumitas 11-09-2007 08:58 PM

the 2nd dam of Nolan's Cat is G1SW Single Blade. She is the dam of western NY sire Comeonmom.

and you cannot take anything away from Catienus. he is one of the best Storm Cats at stud.

and Golden Missile, i love his 25 races, as i said.
http://www.milferfarms.com/

sumitas 11-14-2007 03:41 PM

Now I see that Catienus is back at the top of the NY sire list. I guess he is staying in NY after all.


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