Barbaro
 

Does anyone have any info on his full sib.

His full brother was born this year and I believe they have him at Mill Ridge Farm in KY.

His half brother is with Matz right now at Fair Hill. He is a 2yr old named Man In Havana.

Didnt either Smarty or Alex have a full sib also?

I don't know. I could find out about Smarty but have no idea about Alex.

alex has a full OLDER brother who stands @ darley I think, name's Unforgettable Max. Don't know about Smarty.
Just checked not Darley. He's @ Stonewall...

Smarty has a full sister. She was born in 2005 in Ireland. Coolmore bought the dam at Fasig Tipton in November 2004 for 5M.

Wonder why it's not showing up on Pedigree Query? :confused:

Smarty has a half brother by Orientate (Speedy Jones) born in 2004. Wonder if he'll do anything on the track?

may not be named, and they often don't show overseas offspring.

It took forever for the nomination to come up on the Breeder's Cup site. Also, shes still only a yearling, I'm not sure if they name their yearlings right away.

Speedy Jones looked pretty ugly at auction when he was a yearling. Beau Greeley bought him for 120K at Fasig-Tipton May. I'm not sure what he looks like now. Edit.. I found the link.. http://www.finalturngallery.com/albu...ll_Get_Along_2

yikes!!!! my friend saw him and told me he was scary but she didn't do him justice...let's hope for his sake he was 'going through a phase'...not that that will change those legs, but real quiet got around the track on worse.

Yea, definately! Aside from looking pretty exhausted in that picture, he isn't the prettiest thing. I read somewhere that he looks better now. I'd love to see a picture of him.

i think he doubled his price when sold as a two-year old so he must have improved some...also in his yearling pic he just doesn't look well prepared...coat has no bloom and he's got hay belly...who consigned him?
nevermind I just looked it up myself...

Smarty isn't a good looking horse either IMO. I wouldn't pay 100 grand to breed to him, that's for sure. (Small eyes and crooked to boot.) This colt might look better now...

best line I heard about smarty was when a friend of mine went to see him @ three chimney's and she said she wouldn't send a mare to him because it 'looked like both his front legs came out of the same hole'

Easy on the Three Chimney horses. ;)

I'm not going to lie. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't pay that kind of money to breed to a horse that looks like that. Bad idea to pass on those kind of genetics. JMO... (and I'm entitled to it. ;) )

If you got a chance to take a close look at him you might change your opinion. It is hard to spend that type of money on any unproven stallion, but he has the dirt and the turf breeding.

I'm aware of his bloodlines, but I feel the way I do strictly because of his conformation faults. I feel exactly the same way towards Storm Cat. I am more impressed with straight legged, sound horses. Let's see how his babies turn out. That will be the real indicator.

Smarty Jones? His foals are genetically inclined to be massively overrated.

Afleet Alex had a full brother and sister who both used to run at Canterbury Park and Tampa Bay Downs.
I believe Alex was a Northern Afleet colt out of Maggie Hawk, correct?'

Both Afleet Angel and Native Hawk had the same parents.
Both had somewhat short, but successful careers (although at a much lower level than Afleet Alex did).
I believe they would be 5-yo's this year, and I assume they are retired as neither has raced in over a year, and once AA became huge, their connections probably figured to cash in, if they could.

I thought Native Hawk was out of a different mare.

Unforgettable Max was a very nice looking horse. (AA's full sib.) Looked him up on pedigreequery.com. Won over 300,000.00. 23 starts, 5 wins, 3 seconds, and one third. Not bad. Anyone know anything else about him?

Unforgettable Max? He ran pretty recently, I believe NY to Maryland, and he was OK. Is it possible he was second in the General George at a big price to a Dutrow horse two or three years ago? I want to say it was the one Badge of Silver was in.

Not sure. Unforgettable Max was born in 2000. So maybe.

I'm sure. I think Bruce Levine was training him then but I am not certain about that. Well Fancied was the Dutrow mirage that beat him.

Headley Bell said he is exactly like Barbaro, even has an attitude about him just like Barbaro.

ESPN just sent a crew out to where Barbaro is according to attheracesandbeyond. I think I'm going to vomit.

Janine Edwards had planned on going for tonight's sportscenter as an update because of Saturday's surgery. Nothing new, he is actually doing much better today.

Thank God.

Thanks for the updates Boldruler! It is appreciated.

He is digging in and holding on.

(I stole that from the stretch call from I think Strike the Golds derby).

Wasn't he trained by Ben Perkins? I also think he was second or third in the Tom Fool at a decent price, too.

Unforgettable Max's former owner is from NJ.

I found this quote about him..

"A winner of both starts at age two, Unforgettable Max won five of 23 career starts and earned $384,079. The son of Northern Afleet won the Shecky Greene Stakes at Delaware Park, finished second in the General George Handicap (gr. II), Salvator Mile (gr. III), Discovery Handicap (gr. III), and Jim McKay Breeders' Cup Handicap, and third in the Tom Fool Handicap (gr. II) victory of Ghostzapper."

buffy for more info check out stnewall farm's website. Unforgettable Max stands there.

im very worried for barbaro based on a previous experience. my trainer had a horse who won 3 in a row for him here last year named sir bunny who a downstate trainer claimed off him. well this year he idiodically/not caringly ran the horse up here at hawthorne 2 weeks back after literally limping off the track the previous time out. well you can guess he broke down and one of the other owners in the barn tried to save the horse and payed for all of bunnies medical expenses ata equine clinic in MO. bunny came outta the surgery good like barbaro but later on started getting infections and fevers just as barbaro and had to eventually be put down=( every horse and every case is different but i truly fear for the horses surivival right now

Nice that you are worried for him, but he is doing better today. Still a coin flip.

I hope there is no new news on him for a while.. no news is good news in this situation.

"During" by Cherokee Run beat Unforgettable Max in the Discovery (G3.)

That's what I've been saying...if I don't hear another Barbaro update until January I'll be happy