Circular Quay
 

Maybe those people who criticized Oracle for the way he hyped this 2yo are satisfied now. He ran by some fairly decent colts today, and he didn't even start running until the last 1/2 furlong! His pedigree and his performances suggest he will like stretching out, and his first two races were VERY impressive for a horse who seems like he wants to go longer.
If he stays healthy I DEFINITELY like his chances in the big 2yo races in the late summer and fall.

Any of you geniuses who fought with me/Circular Quay
 

Hey Bold Ruler and friends. Lemme tell you something. When Circular Quay broke his maiden only Sent To Stud apparently knows how to watch a race, cause hes the only guy who didnt toss cold water on this horse.
His win just now was one of the most incredible things I ever saw. This horse is the goods, and he will run all day. I don't care who debuts where and does what to who, as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him. And how scary is it that he wants to go farther. I havent seen a two year old like this horse in over ten years. Its about time!!!

I just started a thread that said basically the same thing (except for the fact that I also said I was very impressed with his debut). Wow this 2yo is just flat out scary.

Did you also notice how Benny got blocked on the turn when he tried to make his first move up the rail? The fact that the Circular Quay didn't give up and kept trying was impressive, let alone the fact that he blitzed by everyone when he finally did get daylight. If he can really run all day long, he is going to be scary.

This horse is nothing short of awesome in not only his performances but his pedigree and running style that basically show that at the wire going this short he is just beginning to have fun out there. This horse is crazy good.

remind me of his breeding, the heat has gotten to me today...

Thunder Gulch out of a Belong To Me mare named circle of life who placed in the the Ashland as a 3Yo.

Circle of Life was also a G1 winner (The Spinaway)

thank you thank you

You HAVE to watch this replay. It will give you shivers. Trapped in behind horses in the stretch he just steers him to the rail, cant ride him or whip him, horse is on his own. Slips through a narrow opening and just explodes the last 50 yards. Just like his debut he was only getting warmed up. Galloped out a zillion lengths in front and was bone dry coming back, never even broke a sweat or took a deep breath.

can't right now. my computer is running last in a 5k claimer and looking for a new job--won't let me watch any streaming video or check email, among other things. piece of sh*t.

sounds impressive though...one more 2yo monster for TP.

It was VERY impressive, and I don't think he is "one more" monster for Pletcher, I think he is THE monster.

This is a 2 y.o. to be reconned with. I think we won't see him as 3 really (just have a hard time believing it) because this may be THE 2 y.o. but boy I am enjoying this year with him.

I never said a bad thing about this one...certainly one to watch!
The story:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...64918&subsec=2

Thanks O and S2S for the heads up.

He was trying to run off on the way back to the winner's circle, I was down on the turn at Churchill and you could hear Bejarano trying to get him to calm down. He looked pretty good guys

was able to get some pretty good picks of Quay
coming out of the paddock area
if I can figure out how to upload them
I'll post them on here, or make a link
I'm a fan, hope he's back in May
for a shot at the roses

You're sarcasm is unnecessary, Miraja. Do you think that those of us who disagreed with Oracle did so just out of spite? I'm sorry, but I remember those posts and there was absolutely nothing wrong with them. Oracle was raving about the potential greatness of a horse who had won one race -nothing wrong with that, of course (if you can't get excited about a talented baby, then the sport isn't for you), but some of us simply wanted to see more before calling him the second coming of.........(fill in the blank). If it's ok to go ga-ga about an inexperienced horse, then it's just as ok to be a bit skeptical.

This horse isn't even the best 2yr old in their barn. Scat Daddy is considered the better of the two.

I was in awe of this horse today.
Reminded me of Afleet Alex. Instant push-button acceleration. What a move down the stretch. No other 2-yo can make that kind of move at this stage.
I just hope that handle this horse very carefully and keep him healthy.
Right now, he's your favorite for the BC juvenile at Churchill.

Scat Daddy can do anything this horse can do and more.

At this time there is no way that anybody could be sure of that.
When Scat Daddy does it then we can believe it.
Not many horses have had initial performances as impressive as this guy has.

1) What sarcasm? I was not being sarcastic in any portion of my post.
2) No I do not think that those of you who disagreed with Oracle did so out of spite. I never said you did.
3) People were criticizing him for being so excited about this horse. I simply stated that "maybe those people who criticized Oracle for the way he hyped this 2yo are satisfied now." I don't see what is so bad about that statement. Maybe they ARE satisfied. Maybe they are not. In my opinion they should be after the colt's performance today. That was my point.

For me it was the triple move this horse made. Wanted to run up early on the backstretch and pulled, trapped behind horses and pulled, attempted to be guided on the outside and pulled once again. As SOON as he found room on the rail he was like a DADDY running by his kids as though he had been playing in the park. If Scat Daddy can beat him I'd love to see it, but I won't hold my breath.

Of course it is always tough to tell with a 2yo so who knows, you may be right. I think one of the reasons that Circular Quay is more interesting to me than Scat Daddy is the pedigree. He is by Thunder Gulch and out of a G1 winning mare, while Scat Daddy is by an unproven (although potentially very good) sire, and out of an unraced mare.
We all know that pedigree isn't everything, but when a Thunder Gulch colt turns in amazing performances like these at 6f and below over the very track which will host the BC Juvenile....I get excited.

yeah Betsy but they were all wrong werent they, so they get to eat crow a l'orange.

It is too early to talk about these young horses as future greats. Barbaro didn't even hit the track until October.

Yeah I know. But I'm talking about now greats, not future greats. The horse is great now, and thats what really matters. I'll leave it to morons who obsess about one or two horses all year and do nothing but talk about them to obsess on the future. I'm enjoying watching him run.

The other knock on CQ is a soundness issue. I believe his mother brokedown in the Test at the Spa. Very well bred though.

really? thats in August isnt it? Well barbaro didnt make it past may so I suppose you will knock his future offspring as having soundnedd issues as well. better spread the word on that. Nighty night!!!

I agree that he has been super impressive but the people I spoke to at his barn at Belmont said Scat Daddy was the faster of the two. Probably should have expected that response though considering SD ran at Belmont. SD will be quite the sight when he gets a fast track. Distance could be his problem though and it looks like CQ shouldn't have a distance issue.

The Test is in august but Circle of Life broke down in that race years ago. I believe that knock on Barbaro has already been brought up by quite a few looking to set his fee. Doesn't really matter for Dynaformers son though because the mares will line up just because he is Barbaro. He will be able to choose anything he wants. Just keep him away from their girl Nice Nelly. You want to talk about potential soundness issues for a foal from those two.

The other knock, what is the first knock? Soundness? what is your agenda here? Your comments are ridiculous.

No agenda, but I don't like Tabor and i am not a Pletcher fan. I just know they were worried about rushing the horse because of who is mare is. If you don't remember what happened to Circle of Life look it up. She was a beauty but was retired due to a fracture she sustained in the Test.

The first knock is simply that he isn't as fast as Scat Daddy, which he isn't.

Sorry to say I didn't get to see his race, but sounds mighty impressive to me.. CQ certainly could be very special especially for a horse supposedly meant to do better going long having so much success early and in shorter races!

You are right that Pletcher has the best 2yr old but his name is Soaring By, not CQ. Soaring By should win the Sanford and take on CQ is the Hopeful.

Wow.

All I have to say.

That all anyone can say. Nothing else applies.

I do apologize, Miraja. It's very easy to misread something over the internet, and I should not have taken your satisfied comment as anything more than what it is. Your points are very well taken indeed....

Oracle, it's a nice feeling to be "vindicated" isn't it? I loved Thunder Gulch and his sire was the first horse I ever followed, so I hope this fella does well. I'd like to give a shout out to Gulch, who was a real racehorse and had a world of class. I always thought he was underrated and his best son certainly was.

I for one would like to see some of these explosive Pletcher horses actually stick around for a full campaign. That is something we have seen very little of especially as it compares to the number of explosive one time performances ( and sometimes two times ) we see from that barn. There have been literally dozens of impressive maiden winners that have either disappeared or fizzled out badly. Already this year we've seen Octave ( I believe she was declared a future Grade 1 winner on this very board ) finish a horrendous second in just her second start. I am surprised to see someone as knowledgable as Oracle declare that Circle Quay, after just his second start against a highly suspect field, is " great ". Perhaps I totally misunderstood ( wouldn't be the first time ).

" Great " seems to get thrown around just a little too easily in this game these days. Last year at this time we were reading about future TC winner Half Ours. He, shockingly, never ran again. Let's just hold our horses ( I couldn't resist ) before annointing champions in July....especially from a barn that seems to have trouble developing the vast talent it holds.