DEE TEE: Sciacca joins; Will train NY-Bred..
 

ANNOUNCING THE NEW YORK BRED SO MANY HAVE REQUESTED!!!

Chuck and I are very pleased to announce that our friend Gary Sciacca has happily agreed to join the Dee Tee family to train the NY-bred runner that we talked about earlier this year! Gary, currently at Keeneland to buy a Book 1-2 horse for a new client, is fresh from a terrific Saratoga meet with 3 wins and 4 seconds. He also kicked off the Belmont Fall Championship Meet with a win in the season's 1st race (Wood Winner at 21-1), and added 2 subsequent placements Friday and Saturday...

For those unfamiliar with Sciacca, he is one of NY's best loved racetrack personalities. He has had a long and successful career on the East Coast having started a public stable at only 26 in 1986 when Al Fiore retired and he took over the barn. Gary has won 2 Belmont training titles; conditioned the Eclipse-winning Saratoga Dew; trained horses to wins in the Eddie Read, Hollywood Derby, Brooklyn, Beldame, Gazelle, Comely and more, as well as dozens of NY-bred stakes.

His Belmont shed (Barn 60) is a riotous center of daily activity that suits the Dee Tee approach well. In association with long-time assistant Paul Barone and their large and loyal staff, the Sciacca barn is perfectly suited to the kind of interest and visitations that Dee Tee partners have become famous for, and of course will campaign our runner at Belmont, Aqueduct and Saratoga...

Gary saddled NYB firster 'Body Blows' to a victory in a $50k+ MSW just a week ago at the Spa, a horse he bought for 20 year client Fertile Acres for $27,500! He is on the lookout for a similar success for us as we 'speak'... Details on the NY-bred offering are forthcoming, but in advance of that, please feel free to Email me (tpkasept@yahoo.com) with info requests under the subject "NYB" or "NY Bred".

pie budget?....

Awesome News!!! Welcome to the DT family.

I want to be famous too.

You are famous.. You created the seminal work of art "Best Handicapper EVAH!" You're DT's Warhol.

You people are in great hands with Gary and Chuck. Wished I still lived in Slidell so I could Sumwon. You need to race her at Sam Houston.



GIMME SOME SUGAR NITTANY LION STYLE

LOL.

Did you get the coffee mug?

I did and it's hysterical. Thanked AeWing, but should obviously add thanks to you too..

Want to actually use the "B.H.E." design on the other side of the DT.com coffee mugs that DebZig is screaming for.. (If I can get your approval..)

Absolutely! I was hoping for B.H.E. bumper stickers and wifebeaters.

i AM screaming! lol


i would love to have that BHE on there, that would make it complete. now, that on a t-shirt would be great too.

i thought you were famous?

Continues a trend of "healthy" trainers...

WOW, great news...

Congratulations, you guys are now working with two of the better trainers around. If the newbie turns out to be half as rewarding as Sumwon was this year, you guys will be in good shape.

Mr Sciacca certainly isnt one of the top trainers in the NY area.
Although i coudnt tell you his percentage for the year, i am pretty sure it i dismal...
Maybe his day rate is cheaper than the rest of the better trainers ?
:rolleyes:

I mailed one to the address you provided me but you never acknowledged receipt of the BHE mug.

Can you tell us anything, genius?

I'm heading to the apartment tomorrow. I'll let you know if I got it.

I mailed it like a month ago (maybe longer) have you been away that long?

I can tell you alot of things for sure.......and Gary is not one of your better trainers in the NY AREA...
I could name so many other trainers, but why would i do that..I can leave that to you. I would imagine he wouldnt be one of your top 3 choices :rolleyes: ....or would he?

Yeah that's my home away from home. The ghetto fabulous pad.

Don't think you read the post by Steve - Gary has had success and I don't think you understand DeeTee Stables. We aren't hiring a trainer. We are bringing in a partner to train. There is a difference.

Normally I wouldn't respond to this or your snide answer to Cajun further in the thread, but I will say a couple of things... What is 'dismal' is the ignorance associated with the spouting of 'win percentage' as a measure of a trainers' 'ability' or 'qualifications'. It is the most laughable and amateurish stat quoted by anyone attempting to diminish the stature or prowess of a horseman, and demonstrates in its' employment only a total lack of comprehension of the game as it is exists right now.

And since we aren't charged a day rate by Chuck or Gary, that shows yet further lack of understanding of what Dee Tee is doing with our partnership. One of the most important aspects of our project is the desire to demonstrate that horsemanship is available to owners beyond Pletcher and Asmussen and the sundry other mega-stables currently en route to destroying the game.

Gary Sciacca bought Subordination for Seth Klarman (Klaravich) for $95,000 and won more than $1,200,000 with him and multiple Gr. I's. What has one of those other alleged 'superior NY horseman' done with the millions upon millions he's spent of Klaravich's money? You clearly have no idea what drives a trainer's career and makes him 'high percentage' at any one time or 'low percentage' at another. So while you're free to spout an unenlightened 'opinion' here, be aware that most will see right through it.

Go get em' Steve......Great reply.

I echo trifecta's sentiments.



I echo tri...ehh

What Steve said was so eloquent I had to congratulate him twice;)

what some "high percentage" trainer's stats wont tell you is that they paid $600,000 for a horse ran him 6 times in two years, won 3 times.. thats 50%...

BUT what about the thousands to feed and vet the horse and the owner might be lucky to recover $100,000 in purses... still they are "batting 50%", but lost $525,000 on their client's horse.

For some high profile barns the win % # is a skewed number. Sure the trainer is making money, but is the client?

Saratoga 2007:
Pletcher 13/113 11.5%
Sciacca 3/40 7.5%

...and Sciacca's runners are about 1/10th the price of the vaunted Pletcher empire's. I'd say he's doing a damn good job.

Let's not forget Contessa. 13-for-149, good for a stellar 8.7%.

I found a picture of santana on his myspace page...

Sightseek's Personality Percentage breakdown:

Pletcher = .0000234%
Sciacca = 110%

so what is the deal with the spray bottle and jar of vaseline?

More importantly than any trainer percentage or what have you is that Steve has done a beautiful job in finding exactly the right ground for all of us as a stable to thrive, learn and enjoy and I'm more than certain that he had done it yet again with this possible new edition.

Tonight I was reading an article in the Blood-Horse about the upcoming sale at Keeneland and they interviewed Cot Campbell, who as we all know has seen a great deal of success, yet his partnerships are founded on members having a 23.75% interest in a horse because he thinks "each partner should feel closely involved with the horses". Well you know what? We all own less than 2% of Sumwon and I feel very involved and connected with this partnership.

So in the end, this isn't about trainer percentages or ownership percentages, it's for the love of the game and these animals who give so much to us each and every day.

Sciacca has always been a great trainer in NY. I am happy to welcome him to the Dee Tee Stable.

Contessa is exempt from the usual rules

Steve i wish you and all your partners a lot of luck in your Dee Tee stable ventures. I didnt make my Gary Sciacca comments because i dislike the guy, but more as a reality check for your partners, I really hope that any of those partners dont invest if they cant afford it. I am sure i have been watching this game for more yrs than you Steve. Knowing plenty of people that have owned and raced in the NY area. People that had a few with guys like A Jerkens and Laz Barrera and a few other of the top ones.
I know you wanna have fun with the partnership, and its all about taking a shot. And yes, i know alot of the angles of owning horses....
Getting a horse to the races, and earning money in the partnership is a huge longshot. I hope you find a huge money earner, but the odds are you wont...
Of the atleast 8 people i have known over the yrs that owned, and with those top trainers running the show......only one guy earned any money.....
With a stable of 10 horses...one horse carried the stable.
So while i wish you luck, hopefully these people that invest...CAN AFFORD to lose the money they more than likely to lose.

No one is investing in this to make money. We are in it to have fun and be able to have the experience of owning a horse. This isn't your traditional partnership. We put in $500 up front and never have to pay another expense the rest of the way, all expenses are paid for by the trainer. I don't think that is going to bankrupt anyone.