Is Manning the best ever?
 

After last night, being reminded of just how good Peyton Manning is, I think it is about time the discussions begin as to whether or not he is the best ever. So what do people think, is he the best QB in NFL history?

Umm....no.

I will take Montana 8 days a week over Peyton

Montana was the most overrated QB ever. Anyone could have been successful in that offense.

Forgive GPK's age gap.

and I could be successful in QBing the Colts offense...

I don't agree. Harrison and Wayne are certainly very nice receivers but Manning doesn't even make them work to make the catch. He lays the ball in the perfect spot everytime such that any receiver could make the catch. If he ever went down to injury I think you would see a major dropoff in Harrison and Wayne's numbers.

and you have never seen me throw a football either...

Pop Warner MVP for 10 years in a row:cool: There are some advantages to being small:o



Peyton is good....great even. Best ever? Still a ways to go if you ask me.

Bradshaw, Marino, Aikman. All as good as Manning. Hard to separate between them.

He's still playing so no.

I couldn't agree more. I never see Manning lay them out. He hits them all in stride right in the hands, it is unbelievable.

Lets not hope he gets hurt this year thought, I have all three of those (plus Dallas Clark) in Fantasy

Yeah....and Jerry Rice had to dive for every pass Joe ever threw him:rolleyes: . Joe played 15 years in the league and is ranked in the top 3 or 4 all time in completion %. You gotta be pretty accurate for that kinda stat.

Scavs...you were like 2 when Montana was in his prime.

Namath....Marino..and a number of other old timers would be serious contenders for best ever....
Believe it or not Oliver Lucks kid, who is a senior in HS and attending Stanford next yr, PINPOINT precision quarterback....yea i know HS.....just watch this kid in the next few yrs .

Marino had a pretty awesome line as well. Didn't he go like 20 straight games without being sacked? I think Manning makes his line look better than it is. His quick decisions and pocket presence really make his linemen look good. Too bad he never gets injured so we'll never be able to see how much he improves his teammates.

Hahaha. Well played, sir.

Hands down - Johnny Unitas is the best ever......

I watched Unitas a lot as he was my football idol as a kid....Manning is getting pretty darn close to Johnny U!

The game has changed so much from those days so it's hard to compare the offense and defensive sets between the two eras.

No you couldn't. Every pass you'd throw would either hit the offensive linemen in the ass or the defensive linemen in the nuts.....it'd be like trying to throw to recievers over top of the Great Wall of China for you....

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gfy:cool:

Exactly. he has zero atheletic talent. He is suppose to be a golf pro and got his ass handed to him by comedy Marty, on like 43 minutes of sleep after pounding drinks all night. I'll let Marty fix my swing thank you very much.

ask Marty if he wants to try and make a living playing me everyday:cool:

things have changed so much, you really can't compare. namath was a big game qb. bradshaw was as tough as they come and a bomber. snake stabler and roger staubach were very consistant and NO one ran a 2 minute drill better.

in the 70's the steelers and raiders DB changed the game. they were big and strong DBs. they are why the rules changed and DBs only have 5 yds to touch WRs. the biggest rule change came when the OL were allowed to open and us thier hands. thats when the eras changed.
can you guys old enough to remember, imagine, johnny u's colts, namath's jets, starr's packers, thier OL's using thier hands?
what could brashaw and the steelers running game have done? for that fact, staubach and dorsett? stabler and company.

marino had NO running and his OL was terrible at run blocking.
montana's completion percentage should be high, dink and dunk is what the was coast offense was. you have already forgot jim kelly in the run-and -shoot offense.

manning's the best of his time but not the best of all time.

NO

between the two, i'd take brady over manning. i don't like mannings theatrics behind the line on practically every play, while brady seems calm, cool, collected and poised.

matter of fact, i have manning in my FFL. willing to entertain a trade, as even tho he earned me mucho points last night, he wracks my nerves, and i'd rather have a QB i can cheer for while they play.

So many good QB's it's hard to pin down.....I find it surprising no one mentions a guy named Elway. I know it's the times, but I think one thing that has helped Manning more than we'll ever know, is playing indoors on turf. He's a talented top shelf QB but I don't think he's anyway near being in danger of being called best ever.......yet. In fact, I don't know if I would take him first in a QB draft among active QB's right now.

Oh and if I had to pick a best of all time......hands down Montana.

my pick as well.

how would you know?? You didnt play. GPK is a great golfer. Marty is a very good golfer also. Noone handed anyone their ass.

This is pretty funny considering you didn't even make it to tee up with them. LOL :D

I agree on Montana being over rated. Noone will ever be able to convince me that he wasnt trying to throw the ball away when Parks caught the winning td pass against the cowboys. Of course I am a biased Cowboy fan. My opinion on QBs start with Merideth. No qb ever did so much with so little. Dandy Don played the game and enjoyed it and quit when it wasnt fun anymore. Of course I am biased but he was also the best High School basketball player I ever saw.

Manning is big, strong, smart, can make any pass, has touch, quick release, and rarely makes mistakes. I am a lifetime Dolphin fan but Manning is the best I have ever seen, including Montana.

your fins gave my skins a hard time today. thankfully, we won the ot toss....

Bastards!

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4 super bowls 6 years---bradshaw

I think Scavs as QB could have gotten at least 3 of those

its pillsberry for 389 yrds on the day!!!!

Yeah. What they said.

LOL, Bigs, I shot a 91 the other day at my dads course (a tough one too) from about 6000 yards, two 250 yard drives for me!

I am coming to get you!

Otto Graham is the best ever. Played in a championship game every single year as a professional. In the AAFC before the Browns joined the NFL and every single year in the NFL. In his 6 NFL seasons the Browns played in 6 championship games and he won 3 of them. No one can touch Graham who has ever played the game.

I agree that Manning is the best ever. These other guys u are all speaking of, I've never heard of them. Who is Montana, Elway, Marino, Favre, Unitas, Bradshaw? I looked them up in the record books and they don't exist.

Edit-I just looked in another record book. Manning is not the best ever anymore. I see those other names now.