hey kasept...
 

whats the name of your new spot in toga....im sure the derby trail faithfull would like to know.......and visit...

Live Oak Café
The Saratoga Race Course Dining Alternative


Complete coffee service, hot, cold, cappacino, espresso, etc.., Junior's Cheesecake and Creme Brulee/Chocolate Mousse, Crab Cakes, Montreal Smoked Meat Sandwiches, My new 'Egg Bake', Salads.. Nothing like it at the track.. Just up from my Carolina Barbecuse joint.. Hope everyone will try.. Hoping it will prove popular..

Though, the regulars will be calling it " Sucking up to Charlottes ".

Chocolate Mousse? I will be there.

Sounds like the best food at the track to me. They should really hire you to do the catering for the dining rooms.

sounds like something for everyone.....

You owe me a new keyboard as I promptly spewed soup all over this one..

(Should I add 'Charlotte Rousse' to the dessert menu...?)

Well, anything else I say at this point will border on mean. And, as you well know, I would never want to do that.

What's the location/address?

Sounds good to me.
Good luck Steve.

btw, I associate crab cakes with Pimlico...certain tracks with a food, if you know what I mean. Is there going to be something on the menu that once it's there, everyone says "Saratoga"? Just a thought.
DTS

Unfortunately it is inside the grounds which could be problematic for you.

maybee a combo..espresso with a egg bake ..the miesqe app..named after nice live oak runners..

Not if you don't see me first.

good point--burgoo w/Keeneland, Julips @ CD why does Saratoga not have a food or drink of it's own?

note to self try all of them....

Given a choice of having your town associated with Burgoo or nothing I would have to think nothing wins in a landslide.

my point is not WHAT the item is only that it is an old and historic track and has no signature food or drink item associated with it. I find that somewhat odd...I never said I ate that horrendous stew that is served at KEE.

Certainly ... Saratoga Chips ...

... also known as "potato chips."

If you search all the highways and byways of Saratoga County ... you may be able to track some down.

Also ... take a look at the Ken Lay thread ... there's some commentary about "potato chips" there.

See my above post ... the signature food at the Spa is the Saratoga Chip ...

... which you can wash down with the signature beverage ... Saratoga Spring Water.

I would like to say I could say the same thing.

You try spending a month in Lexington. Burger King is nouveau cuisine in that town.

Ha Ha

Chips are so common, they are not unique to Saratoga.

Now, if you're talking "cow chips"...I'd asociate them with YOU!!!

While we're on the region's specialities... Don't foget Pie ala Mode!!

First served at the Cambridge Hotel (Cambridge, Washington County) around 1930 and exported to Delmonico's in NYC by Professor Charles Townsend who had "created" it by asking for it at the Hotel years earlier...

The Saratoga Chip, progenitor of American Potato Chips, are generally attributed to George Crum, or his sister, at the Moon Lake Lodge in 1853.

Other dishes associated with origins in the Albany-Saratoga corridor are Cole Slaw, which was made at a bording house in Albany by a Dutch woman in 1750, and Salisbury Steak, created by an RPI nutritionist in the late 1800's...

Hmmm..

All that's left is chocolate milk and you guys would have every school lunch in America covered!

Pack some Saratoga Spring Water instead of the chocolate milk ... it's much healthier ... and will complete the Saratoga lunch superfecta.

Hey ... how about Stewart's root beer float?

Believe Stewart's has a New Jersey origin..

Yeah ... all the really good stuff does.

I spent a year plus there and didn't starve...no small feat for a vegetarian, they have some great places to eat and a farmers mkt.

I meant an item that EVERYONE would know...ask any stanger in the supermarket what you buy at the derby they will say mint juleps. the preakness? crabcakes. the travers???????? don't know. Maybe steve breaks out on this one.

They do not have GREAT places to eat. They do have some fair ones.

I think that's fair, Furlongs was good, not great, I heard they closed, the owner was a nice guy always at Keeneland, maybe that's why they closed. Went to the Petit Rose, was supposed to be a nice place, the Steak Diane was terrible, it was tough. There's a Japanese place, Nagasaki, not very well kept, but decent food.

Favorite after-Keeneland place to eat it is Montgomery Inn...

Did someone say CREME BRULEE?????

If you like Montgomery Inn, try Walt's Hitching Post in Fort Mitchell...

Steve...I have been to Mont. Inn., is Walt's better than that???

Walt's is different. Not a par-boiled rib. Dry smoked, not a wet rib like Ted Gregory's at Monty Inn.. but super tender and flavorful.

The BEST rib joint in Cincy is gone now. That was THE BARN/RIB PIT.. a former speakeasy in an alley between 5th and 6th and maybe Walnut. Might have been Gano Alley in fact... Was an unbelievable joint with live music and a cast of characters like you wouldn't believe... Reds and other visiting ballplayers, especially the veteran guys from teams in town, would hang there late at night. There and The Precinct... Damn.. I had so much fun living in Cincy it should have been against the law. (Oh wait.. a lot of it WAS against the law...)

Embers
 

Does anyone remember "The Embers" bar just south of town on Broadway?

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The Precint is unreal and Walts Hitching Post is good. They cook all the meat in a BBQ Pit right by the parking lot. Carlos and Johnny is unreal. In Fact any of the restaurant owned by Jeff Ruby in Cincy are unreal. Montgomery Inn is way overrated IMO. The Rib King acutally owned some half way decent race horses.

Now in Lexington there are some decent places to eat. But it isnt well known for cuisine. The food associate with Kentucky is the Hot Brown. It was invented by a chef at the Brown Hotel--where most owners and trainers stay during Derby week. Also, there is a place called Kaelins that claims they invented the cheeseburger. But for breakfast in Louisville you have to visit Lynns Paradise Cafe. Very very good food and atmosphere.

You would hate it now Kasept, no one, I mean no one goes downtown anymore. After the riots in 2001, the Police Force has been handcuffed and crime and killings are rampant, setting new highs every year. When I was in College, we were always down at Main Street or in Mount Adams, it's a ghost town now. I live in Westwood, have a nice old house(small), the Gamble Estate is right up the street from me, but two streets over there's murders almost every other week. My company is relocating and I will be with it, very soon...