A new poll - for men only
 

Which would be more enjoyable?

Watching a grade 1 race run over the Del Mar poly track?

OR

Watching a 385 pound woman do a strip teaze?

yeah, me too.

whichever one features a donkey.

Can you bet on the stripper? Over under on weight, tattoos, visible scars?

Did you find that youtube of me? Not fair! I DEMAND A RECALL.

Well, I did watch Gr.1 race today on Del Mar polytrack and it was painful. Randy Moss made great point toward end of broadcast -- if any of top three from this race make BC Classic at Monmouth, they would be at least 30-1 morning line picks.

The differences in various synthetic surfaces is finally starting to gain attention of entire horse racing community. These differences appear more pronounced than differences in various dirt and turf courses in North America.

I will pass on 385 pound stripper... LOL

it goes without saying that most g1s over the dmr polycrap will be, in fact, won by a donkey.

i guess if you were to drive another 30 minutes or so over to TJ you could find a donkey act there pretty easily.

I am going with 385 pound woman strip. Del Mar is a joke

ok, so far it's 2-1 in favor of the stripper, with an unknown that depends on donkeys.

there have to be more opinions than just that!

Poly....is far more of a strategy race than any other surface as you almost have to somehow ride the crest of the wave before you bust it for one effort running uphill on level ground hoping you don't flame out too early.....


......yeah I guess I'll take the fat girl too!

There are only 4 Grade 1's, on polytrack at DM--Bing Crosby sprinting, the PC, and the 2 races for two year olds

As for the Obese women---I hope during confessional your room door gets jammed and the large lady had Beans for dinner the night before.

I'll take the poly... just give me a good closer

you arent likely to catch this atheistic jew in confessional anytime soon.

in fact, i'd go as far as saying that i'd rather grind my arm down to a stub in a garbage disposal unit while eating a hot bowl of fresh doo doo!

i could just see the dialog now between my hypothetical priest and my hypothetical self in the confessional room.

ME: "forgive me father, for i have done nothing. i sit around all day posting on this horse racing message board and fantasizing about getting revenge on all doctors. oh, i also talk to this italian guy online who fantasizes about having sex with discreet cat, and i also chat with this dude in joisey"

Father Mulcahy: "that's okay my son. i too fantasize about having sex with, oh, wait, i thought you said something else"

ME: "Yeah, I hear ya father. I also fantasize about naked women sometimes too"

Father Mulcahy: "Bless you my son"

ME: "It was nice catching up with you. See you again in another few decades"

i'll take del mar-forget the race-checking out the eye candy is good enuff

I'd like to see a group of 385 pound women race around DM while striping. I'm thinking a inside post biased.

Spyder

As long as she wasn't in front or tripped on her garter Miss 385 might have been able to win!

At Delmar, having speed is a significant disadvantage. It is still a contest of some sort, but I wouldn't really call them races.

Despite my dislike of this polytrack, I'm all for the safety of horses. But there has to be a better way than this. A lot of people are comparing it to turf racing. There are some similarities, but in general, turf is almost always FASTER than dirt. This stuff is much, much slower and the races are almost painful to watch.

Who ever dreamed a G2 sprint for older horses in SoCal would have a 24+ second first quarter?

I'm curious, what is the big deal if the surface causes the time to be a bit slower? I see many people all up in arms about the final times and I don't get that. Its a very unimportant part of the game to me.

Excuse the expression....""which one gives you more BANG for the Buck ""?

It isn't just the time, it is the fundamentals of the game. On a very slow dirt track, speed horses still have an advantage. Check the winterized surface at Mnr, or some of the slow days at Crc and a few others. It isn't just about the time.

What has really happened is that 6f races are now like 7f races, 7f races like 1 mile and 1/16 races, and 1 mile 1/4 races are like 1 mile 1/2 on dirt. I don't even care about the betting part. It is certainly possible to figure this stuff and make money.

Imagine though, if you will, a sport where horses like Seattle Slew and Dr. Fager wouldn't have been able to win a route race. Safely Kept and Xtra Heat would have won a few, but hardly been dominant. The list could go on and on. That is what you have at Keeneland and Delmar right now.

There is nothing I like more than seeing a horse go fast and dare the others to try and keep up. The best horses ever could run fast for a long time. Now, that is absolute death. Horses are basically being dragged back and begged not to run until the very end. Why are horses running fast in the first place? It is the survival instict, no? Watch horses in the wild. You won't see a lot of them fighting to be in the back when being chased by a lion.

Again, I'm all for saving a horses. There just has to be a better way than this.

A lot of what you say is very reasonable and true. However in todays "sport" horses like Dr. Fager and Seattle Slew would never run enough to become what they were back in the day. The truth is that polytrack may save the sport by confusing the breeders into making bad stallion choices which may inevitably turn the bloodstock markets downward making it less economically viable to retire horses early. Sound like a crazy theory but the pyrmaid scheme which exists now is going to sap all the talent and eventually interest out of the upper levels of the racing game until the time where it is not so damn profitable to not run and instead just create breeding stock.

I do realize there are some pluses to the fake surfaces, including potentially longer careers for top horses. It could also provide, eventually, some needed stamina being brought back into the breeding shed. At some point, we might actually even have a horse that could compete in a real top class turf race.

I just think there has to be a way to make it perform more like dirt. Imagine Slew trying to sew up the TC going 3 miles, errr, 1 1/2 miles, on a Belmont polytrack, yikes!

The track is slow to be sure. Speed horses are at a big disadvantage to be sure.
BUT, if Seattle Slew in his prime had been in that race yesterday, I am pretty confident that he could have handled that bunch........no matter the surface.

Seeing how not a single horse has won on the lead at over a mile, I suspect you would be tearing up some tickets. We'll never know, but that is my opinion.

Big chicks give good head lol

Yes, and I agree that the surface is ridiculous, but none of those horses on the lead were even REMOTELY in the same ballpark as Seattle Slew. He could do things other horses simply couldn't do. I would say he was a tad better than yesterday's leader AP Xcellent.

Everybody desires a perfect world..

one problem.. what would everybody bitch and moan about?

Interesting

I just don't what to say...

I heard him make that comment, as if to somehow invalidate the result of the race. Truth be told, the Pacific Classic was a very weak race, and no matter who the top three finishers were, with the exception of Lava Man, they would probably be at least 30-1 morning line in the BC Classic whether the Del Mar race was contested over Polytrack or a conventional dirt surface.

Niether one appeal to me.

ok, you want a 385 lb man instead?

It's pretty exciting when you win.

I could care less if they run the mile and a quarter in 2:20.. if I have the winner, then I'm a big fan.

so I'm an idiot you say.. fine..

everybody's in the game for different reasons. What if I don't care about the times, or who's horse of the year, or if so and so gets his grade 1.

What keeps this sport going is gambling.

People are still betting on it.. so bitching and moaning and beating this dead horse is not going to change it.

damn.. deal with it.

yours truly,
great and brilliant.

I contemplated what to do and my decision is to make the stripper watch the race at Del- Mar and i'll atempt to do the striptease and if i make a $1 i'm way ahead.