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Any Given Saturday
Yet another to be bought by the Maktoums.
Details on DRF's website. |
"As for whether the colt would compete in 2008, Darley stallion nominations manager Charlie Boden said Wednesday: 'That's a possibility, but nothing's been decided yet. It depends on how he's doing.'"
Wonderful. |
Don't they also have Street Sense and Hard Spun after this year?
How long until they secure Curlin? |
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I think these guys could probally buy every horse that wins a stake race and still not affect the lifestyle they live. I am surprised they haven't bought or built there own full scale racetrack. I heard Magna might sell some of theirs wouldn't surprise me if Sheik buys one and has another huge day of racing
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and they're supposed to be building a bigger and better version over there.
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'Any Given Saturday's future will be evaluated after the Breeders' Cup.'
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Even if Darley does retire him after the BC, does anyone honestly think Win-Star was going to keep him around racing for another year had Darley not bought him?
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and yes, he most likely would be done regardless of who owned him. |
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and not the first saturday in may either. |
He got the offical 'DrugS Derby endorsement' that is so coveted --- and proceed to run BY FAR the worst performance of any DrugS Derby endorsement horse this entire decade!
He really should be ashamed. He'll go down in the history books as the horse who recived the DrugS Derby endorsement the year after Discreet Cat recieved it. |
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Not that I was a big fan prior to, but that performance in the Haskell was very impressive. Eric |
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However, they are just interested with accumulating as many potential stallions as they can to try to one up Coolmore in the only area where they have been deficent. (other than winning the Derby) |
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Unlike others, I admit that if I ended up with a promising superstar, although I have done very well for myself, my family, business, horses, personal investments, real estate, etc. -- not selling for some scary number would be a poor decision. Being a "sportsmen" becomes unfeasible. It's similar to the people who say if they ever won the lottery, they wouldn't quit their job. Easy to say, but being in the financial/estate/tax/etc. field, I can tell you it's different when you are actually wearing the shoes as opposed to dreaming or projecting about wearing the shoes. The same with a top 3yo. Although I would enjoy the incredible ride and would love to race him as a 4yo -- it just becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible. It's not just the marketplace, but the entire industry and sport that needs a "correction" so to speak. Eric |
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I was just curious what the ratio of mares to stallions were. I think they retire horses to stud at 3 (sometimes 2) because if they go on to race at 4 they don't make the money they can as a stallion. He may prove less valuable every time he runs, risks getting beat or injured in the worse way. a bird in the hand |
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As Eric says in his previous post, the majority of owners cannot turn down huge sums of money but the billionaires that talk about value and such are simply bad for the game in the long run. |
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Call a timeout and get him in the game. |
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just to be clear. I was not being complmentary. I think it is a sham and agree that it is bad for racing. Also, this is why I wonder why anyone would take a horse to a freshman sire that hasn't proven anything in the shed. How many drop from their initial offering and how many jump up like Storm Cat. Why take your horse to AGS when Distorted Humor (I think) is the one that produced AGS. Now that I have said this I am sure AGS will go on to be the leading sire of 2010. |
Is anyone else completely shocked that WinStar sold a decent stallion prospect? They are know for keeping their horses and standing them as stallions after they are retired.
I'm guessing the Darley offer would have to have been around $35-40million for WinStar to accept the offer, i might be wrong but it must have been HUGE for them to say yes. He would have retired at the end of this year if either operation had ownership of him. I'm convinced they will get Curlin asap, too. They are desperate to get the leading first season sire in America and with Hard Spun, Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, and maybe Curlin that objective looks reachable and i hope for American breeding they do it, because if they don't they will begin try to purchase every single high class 3yo until they do get a top freshman. Their domination of the sport (as far as money is concerned) in Britain is well documented. I'm pretty sure the same tactics will soon be evident in the US, too. |
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Over in Europe, everyone is banking on Hurricane Run to prove himself. I think his yearlings will sell very very well. It seems like every mare owner wants to go to him. |
Has anyone heard the actual price paid for AGS?
Rumour is $50million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that is true, it is becoming a joke. He was worth a lot of money and you can be sure that winstar wouldn't have let him go for any less than his value and much more on top, so $50milllion might not be too far off. You guys better hope that he or one of the others sires the Derby winner in 2011 or there will be trouble!! |
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Didn't they just move their entire operation to KY? |
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yep wonder if a potential deal for curlin will be held up while the two lawyers deal with their 'issues'? after all, there could really be an impact on curlin because of their legal problems. |
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Don't forget, if Hard Spun wins a Gr1 before he retires, the price goes up another $15million, doesn't it? I really wouldn't be surprised if it were close to $50million. Win Star wouldn't get rid of a really good stallion prospect unless the offer couldn't be turned down |
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winstar may have been excited--but my gosh, 50 million?! no way. the stud fee that would require in order to even break even would be amazing--even with shuttling to australia where they can't command the same stud fee as here. most farms want to break even on purchase price within 3/4 years. think about the stud fee, mares to cover, need to shuttle to make that 50 mill. any given saturday is no fupeg. and win star would take the money, rather than work at making a stallion--which is risky-- if it's all right there in one lump sum. |
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then again, their first 3yos wont be running in the derby until 2012, the year the world is supposed to end. there will be a triple crown winner in 2011 at least, just not by one of those 2yos from those sires you mentioned. |
all i know is, if darley is indeed shelling out this kind of money to buy up all the breeding stock in order to 'knock off' coolmore they are
a-idiots b-letting emotion get the best of them and c-too rich for their own good. |
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very true. So we get expensive freshamn sires and expensive yearlings and when they finally get to the track they are Green Monkeying all over the place |
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