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SundaySilence 07-04-2007 06:06 PM

Somebody hit the Hollywood Pick 6 on Monday twice with investments of $2 & $4?
 
This smells like the Breeders Cup with the Drexel boys. The same person had the ticket twice...I wonder if he want two deep in the last leg using the 2 & 9 :eek:

Hope there are some answers coming, the same owner of $2 & $4 tickets hit for
1.1 million.

http://www.hollywoodpark.com/bet_the..._07042007.html

mclem10011 07-04-2007 06:10 PM

Wow!
 
I had the 9 on my freakin long gone ticket! That is an unreal score! Incredible!

hi_im_god 07-04-2007 06:33 PM

the article said he bought them at a terminal 17 seconds apart.

that implies they have a record of when they were sold.

it's pretty amazing that anyone ever hits on a $2 ticket but i don't think you'll be seeing an investigation.

onebadbeast 07-04-2007 06:50 PM

Yes It Can Be Done... Fools Keep Playing It For 3-5 Thousand Dollars. Try To Pick The Lottery Balls In The Order They Come Out!

philcski 07-04-2007 06:56 PM

It was me. Sorry I didn't share. :p

SundaySilence 07-04-2007 07:03 PM

I guess they were hard tickets so that they couldn't have been manipulated by accessing the binary file and changing the numbers without affecting the time stamp associated with the tickets.

It would have to be an autotote employee with access to the file(s) and just added 2 live tickets to the will pays for ALL in the 8th.

It was done before, it this thing paid $30K, nobody bats an eye.

Ticket holder hasn't come forward to cash yet.

To me it seems real suspicious.

hi_im_god 07-04-2007 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SundaySilence
I guess they were hard tickets so that they couldn't have been manipulated by accessing the binary file and changing the numbers without affecting the time stamp associated with the tickets.

It would have to be an autotote employee with access to the file(s) and just added 2 live tickets to the will pays for ALL in the 8th.

It was done before, it this thing paid $30K, nobody bats an eye.

Ticket holder hasn't come forward to cash yet.

To me it seems real suspicious.

if i recall correctly from the bc scandal the info on live tickets is transfered after the 4th leg. thus the single-single-single-single-all-all structure used in the bogus bc tickets.

there would be no way for an autotote employee to manipulate tickets once the 5th leg was run. the existence of a physical ticket which will carry a bar code showing when and where it was sold is another reason to distinguish this from 2002.

i suspect autotote, having been burned already, has additional security in place.

and anyone smart enough to beat whatever security is in place would also probably be smart enough not to try this on a big day. they have chris harn's example to look back on.

ForestofWonders 07-04-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SundaySilence
I guess they were hard tickets so that they couldn't have been manipulated by accessing the binary file and changing the numbers without affecting the time stamp associated with the tickets.

It would have to be an autotote employee with access to the file(s) and just added 2 live tickets to the will pays for ALL in the 8th.

It was done before, it this thing paid $30K, nobody bats an eye.

Ticket holder hasn't come forward to cash yet.

To me it seems real suspicious.


Los alamitos is the main hub for So Cal, isn't it?

It it were bought at a terminal, it would be time stamped. If so, they may even have video of it.

ForestofWonders 07-04-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
if i recall correctly from the bc scandal the info on live tickets is transfered after the 4th leg. thus the single-single-single-single-all-all structure used in the bogus bc tickets.

there would be no way for an autotote employee to manipulate tickets once the 5th leg was run. the existence of a physical ticket which will carry a bar code showing when and where it was sold is another reason to distinguish this from 2002.

i suspect autotote, having been burned already, has additional security in place.

and anyone smart enough to beat whatever security is in place would also probably be smart enough not to try this on a big day. they have chris harn's example to look back on.

agreed.

cassie 07-05-2007 10:52 AM

mon days hollywood pick 6
 
just read in the ny post that one guy had the winning ticket two times once on a 2$ ticket and once on a$4 ticket ubelievable:)

docicu3 07-05-2007 11:20 AM

Where can one read a factual account of the breeders cup scandal??

declansharbor 07-05-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
Where can one read a factual account of the breeders cup scandal??

Google it or askjeeves.com

unassailable08 07-05-2007 11:33 AM

Maybe
 
It was just some lucky fan

philcski 07-05-2007 11:44 AM

I phucking can't stand hearing about the BC scandal. Since I went to Drexel and am obviously a racing fan I must have gotten 22 calls asking if I knew these jackoffs or was involved.

They were in TKE fraternity which was the biggest assholes on campus, a bunch of overprivledged and lazy bums who these clowns epitomize.

The Bid 07-05-2007 11:49 AM

Tau Kappa Epsilon

Phil my old frat

declansharbor 07-05-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
I phucking can't stand hearing about the BC scandal. Since I went to Drexel and am obviously a racing fan I must have gotten 22 calls asking if I knew these jackoffs or was involved.

They were in TKE fraternity which was the biggest assholes on campus, a bunch of overprivledged and lazy bums who these clowns epitomize.

I second the fact that the TKE frat boys are the worst. Had to throw down with a few of them a few yrs back. Coward punks, some of which will never again touch a random girl's a$$ without thinking of the shalacking I gave them. Not to mention thier front door that needed to be replaced after my older brother Matt caught wind of it. The motley crew that he assembled is still probably talked about in University City.

philcski 07-05-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Tau Kappa Epsilon

Phil my old frat

I took a dump on their front steps one night after one of their guys threw a brick through my car window!

10 pnt move up 07-05-2007 11:52 AM

Is it possible these were backup tickets and the guy punched in many many many more?

lemoncrush 07-05-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Is it possible these were backup tickets and the guy punched in many many many more?

That's what I'm wondering.
If they created dozens of $2 and $4 tickets, instead of one large sized ticket.
In that case, it would make sense if they were submitted seconds apart, as perhaps the only difference in the two tickets was going 2 deep in one leg instead of a single.

geeker2 07-05-2007 05:58 PM

Perhaps he was playing his odometer reading and he wasn't sure if he should use the reading when he left the house or when he parked at the track? So he played both..LOL

There was a lady at Golden Gate that did that and hit the P6.

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:04 PM

Just listening on tvg and they said it was a physical ticket from a teller(thats been discussed) and the person bet $10 on pick-6 tickets and cashed two tickets... thats a pretty good ROI

ALostTexan 07-05-2007 10:07 PM

Yeah, but the idiot still had $6 in losing tickets...

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:09 PM

no no no $4 in losing tickets. I mean hes no pg1985 but i guess everyone has to start somewhere.Wow they just showed the two people on tv. Its entirely possible they just got lucky.

ALostTexan 07-05-2007 10:12 PM

Oh, thats right, he did have a $4 ticket in there. What, wasn't confident and had to throw in an extra in one of the races?

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:14 PM

I'm happy for them looks like either a father and daughter or husband and wife( i can't tell) He looks about 50ish shes maybe mid 30's. They were in the winners circle getting their picture taken.

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:20 PM

Oh dear lord, complete dumb luck i love it. Um my dad he uh studies the cards and i pick out names i like. and then we uh heard about the rollover and uh we decided to play. Didn't even watch the races, didn't find out till this morning. The two tickets were a mistake. He only meant to punch one.

The Bid 07-05-2007 10:23 PM

Doesnt matter how much you know in this game luck is always involved. Thats what keeps those license plate, address, birthday guys coming back. Godbless them for just showing up and punching a ticket out.

whodey17 07-05-2007 10:23 PM

The story about the refrigerator was hilarious. I am happy for them. They seem real nice and down the earth. Glad they won it instead of some syndicate.

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:24 PM

Texan he also hit a conso so he had $8 in winners and only one loser... thats pretty strong.

skippy3481 07-05-2007 10:25 PM

Oh i agree, they seem like average people and really for just finding out she won a million she's pretty even keeled. She's actually more entertaining then these two guys. Wasen't poking fun at all. I spent like 6 hours on the card and had 2 winners. She picks names and between her and her dad pound it twice. I love it.

Left Bank 07-06-2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2
Perhaps he was playing his odometer reading and he wasn't sure if he should use the reading when he left the house or when he parked at the track? So he played both..LOL

There was a lady at Golden Gate that did that and hit the P6.

That's good!!{odometer}I'll have to try that sometime!:D

brianwspencer 07-06-2007 03:07 PM

Father and Daughter.

Amazing.

http://www.losalamitos.com/laqhr

Spendabuck85 07-06-2007 03:18 PM

Nice story, thanks for posting it.

Left Bank 07-06-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SundaySilence
This smells like the Breeders Cup with the Drexel boys. The same person had the ticket twice...I wonder if he want two deep in the last leg using the 2 & 9 :eek:

Hope there are some answers coming, the same owner of $2 & $4 tickets hit for
1.1 million.

http://www.hollywoodpark.com/bet_the..._07042007.html

Boy,they sure don't look like Autotote employee's to me.I bet they don't even know what a "binary file" is.:eek:

SundaySilence 07-06-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Boy,they sure don't look like Autotote employee's to me.I bet they don't even know what a "binary file" is.
Are you kidding she probably graduated from M.I.T or Stanford :)

Great story and damn good handicapping.

Thanks Brian for posting the link.


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