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When Bonds breaks the record
or ties the record...
For the folks who are more in tune with baseball. What will happen as far as festivities if this happens in games away from SF? ex. Would they stop the game if he hit his tying or breaking HR in Atlanta or Milw.? What are the away stadiums (clubs) going to do if the event occurs on their field? And will he get the heck booed out of him, or standing O or what? |
I don't think the public really cares. I am sure each stadium will announce it on their jumbo-tron. The host stadium will plan nothing. The crowd will stand-up and clap. But for the most part, I don't think people really care.
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as long as bud shows up, i could care less what they do.for the better of the game he needs to acknowledge this at the least and then let the fans and history take care of the rest. no way do you want mlb to turn thier back on the greatest record in sports. as baseball fans we need to put this era behind us and accept it and judge it as we do all records. mlb has as much to do with this getting this far as barry did. barry take steroids -sure he most likely did. did baseball know this was going on- of course they did. now hanks a different story, i don't think he needs to be there but the commish does.
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if he breaks it outside of san fran , he will get his fair share of boos but i think most will applaud him because this guy had hof credentials before this. even tho steroids helped his cause later -he still was a 5 tool player who is one of the best in the game. even if you like him or not
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i know hank isn't for sure but i think bud is still out to lunch on this one yet and hasn't commented for sure but could be wrong. havn't heard anything at least. if he has said no he should seriously reconsider.
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i guess there's no chance of him being intentionally walked for the rest of his career...
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Seems like Bonds is the one shouldering the blame for the steroids problem in baseball. Fact is the guy is a hall of famer regardless. He was one of the top players when he was a string bean.
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What do you think Pillow. What kind of reception away from SF? Especially in Atlanta or Milw. (now home of kids attacking cars cause it summertime, the police just love it when the kids are out of school.) |
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Milwaukee..eh don't know much about their crowd. I really don't care about the record to tell you the truth. The record that is tops in my book for hitters is rbi's. And Barry's not getting that one. |
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If the record happens on the road, a real fan throws that shiat back on the field :D
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Bonds has gone up two full shoe sizes since he was 30.
He's a shoe-in for the HoF. |
Having Bud Selig show up, and having him, and the rest of baseball acknowledge this record being broken as if it were "clean" and "kosher" -- in my mind doesn't solve any problem. It compounds it. This doesn't put the tainted days of MLB behind us -- it traps us inside of it. At least that is the way I feel.
I think there needs to be a drastic shift in how this entire situation is being handled. The investigation(s) are a joke, owners are not being forced to address the problem and deal with it head on, and players are not being put in a position where they suffer the consequences of tainting America's pastime. I have several retired MLB players as clients, and as friends. A few of them are in the 500 HR Club. You should listen to their passion and disgust when they talk about the game they once played and will forever love. Not that all of them are angels or hollier than thou, but I think the game needs to stop perpetuating status quo. Eric |
Isn't it amazing that Barry Bonds is the one player who truly lives up to this sports company name and is not one of their items for sale?
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In my mind, Bud Selig needs to take a stand and make a very clear statement -- right here and right now, and very different than the statement that has been put forth in the past. You cannot convene an investigation, stand up and say you are going to clean up the game, and enforce a set of rules, put the game on trial in front of a Congressional committee, and then not give the entire process validity. Well, actually you can do that -- however, by doing that you have made your statement, and it is a very bad one. Let Bud Selig stand up and restore credibility and integrity to the process and the game. It won't happen, but I think that is what's neccessary. Eric |
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I guess it just becomes what each person thinks MLB needs to do. Everyone's standards and "repair" points are going to be different. Eric |
It's too late for MLB to do anything. They had their chance years ago and they've known about the steroids for a long time. They chose to overlook it while the sport recovered from the strike. To do anything now would be hypocritical on their part.
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to spitballs and doctering balls, to the giants and dodgers championship "shot heard around the world game" when the giants might have stold signs with binoculers and used lights from the outfield scoreboard to win that game. and it is true they did steal signs in the regular season just to get to that game. admitted by some of thier own players.but we still marvel at that game as one of the greatest. to corked bats and to even cheating today in one sense but still legal by stealing of signs by the runner on 2nd getting them from the catcher. as wrong as we want to make it ,cheating has been apart of baseball from the begining, unlike any other sport. the old saying"if you aint cheating you ain't trying" is what some baseball players lived by and still do . from hal chase to albert belles corked bat and sending a player to sneak in the umps room to switch it like pillow said its to late, the damage is done and your right to put the controls in place right now and move on. it could be never ending, i can sit here and question how many games when barry hit a hr did it help or give the giants a win. did the giants deserve to play the angels in the world series? we would have to assume the team the giants beat in the nl championship game got cheated.given barrys post season record was awful before that world series year but that year he had big hits and played a big part in thier wins to get to the ws. i think we have to just let the past go and put it in perspective like when maris broke ruths hr single season record. maris hit 61 in 162 games compared to ruths 60 in 154. well who actually was the single season hr leader? was it fair to ruth that maris got 8 extra games, since thay changed the amount of games played? we can find faults with the game wherever we try to look. smaller ballparks now can we still compare them as equal? i think for us older fans we know what went on and will know the truth and by putting in the controls now will still save the respect of the game for the future and its fans. baseball turned away, it was made illegal in the 80's but they never tested for it, so who is to blame, i think mlb carrys just as much the load as does the players. and in sports they are all looking for a edge. i agree with you that we need trust but it really is to late in this situation , no use trying to rectify the past, the games have been played and recorded ,bonds hr's will not only count in the grand total but also in the box scores forever. we do need to put controls in place which have been done, though we can debate wether they are strong enuff? and move on, which is what i choose to do.but mlb and its governing body has blown it already,we deal with the past by showing we are controling it now. dealing with the past will leave still to many unanswered questions in itself. if we don't give barry the title we will still think as fans well maybe he was just that good and wonder ? to hit the ball has nothing to do with steroids,the steroids will give you the amount of power behind it and may give you the home run but barry was cracking these way before this in pittsburgh, mabye the steroids did make the ball travel farther but a hr is a hr wether its a foot over the fence or 80 feet over. barry i believe would have got alot of those over just at a shorter distance but we will never know for sure. we will always question. but i understand your point and what you would like to see done and if i thought it would matter i'd be for it . but i just dont think its in the best intrest of baseball when the commish won't show up, cause that also says that the last 30 years is a farce also and we will all still think the same way. time will take care of this , i honestly believe baseball will always have its fans, there is something about this sport unlike the rest, its rich history and mlb taking care of the situation now that will allow it to still be americas national pastime no matter what the other sports and thier fans may think. thru it all so far baseball is alive and thriving with attendence at its highest ever, even before the strike in 94. the steroid issue is not going to hurt this sport if mlb takes care of the situation now |
When Bonds breaks the record it will go in the who gives a sh!t category. Bonds is one of the biggest disgraces to baseball and sports in general. Hopefully someone breaks his arm with a pitch. When he breaks it shouldn't get recognized because he is one of the biggest if not biggest cheater in baseball. Hopefully he breaks the record on the road and there is no ceremony. If it was my stadium I wouldn't do anything for him.
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