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randallscott35 06-29-2006 10:02 PM

Why Not Andromeda's Hero?
 
I think its time this horse got up and won a big race. Saturday may well be the day. This is not the sharpest group of other horses going in this race. I'm not sold on Invasor. And on the sheets, he's simply a tiny bit slower than some horses in here who are going to be 2-1 and 5-2.

I didn't go in trying to find a price in this race, but this is a very good spot for this horse. He's a large play on Saturday.

Scav 06-29-2006 10:06 PM

You know what is crazy is I thought the exact same thing about Noble Causeway, I love the jock switch to Javy....

Gander 06-30-2006 07:49 AM

I like Noble Causeway much better. He is a real racehorse who has just had some unfortunate physical ailments. Andromedas Hero is nothing but a plodder, always ready to pass dead tired horses but never threatening the top 1 or 2.

oracle80 06-30-2006 07:58 AM

Wild Desert is going to win this race, absolutely will win it. Dutrow loved this horse last out(I did not, I liked Gouldings who is a very nice horse) and was sure he would win. I got very lucky to have Gouldings get up that day. Wild had to make several moves into the teeth of a fast pace and had to stop and start a few times and was still narrowly beaten. After the race I turned to Lansdon and said man did I get lucky, Wild was much the best.
He needed that start and since then has trained awesomely. He drew the rail which is a HUGE advantage at this distance which starts on a turn. Make sure you key him in your gimmicks.

eurobounce 06-30-2006 08:03 AM

Wild Desert--nope, he falls short against the pathetic field. A race VOID of speed. Invasor will be tough, but watch out for Noble Causeway.

oracle80 06-30-2006 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Wild Desert--nope, he falls short against the pathetic field. A race VOID of speed. Invasor will be tough, but watch out for Noble Causeway.

Euro, Wild is the speed and he drew the one hole. Catch him if you can.

eurobounce 06-30-2006 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Euro, Wild is the speed and he drew the one hole. Catch him if you can.

I know, but there is no way, IMO, that he lasts. He has no choice but to go for the lead since he is in the one hole. I think the horse would prefer to be on the outside.

randallscott35 06-30-2006 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
I like Noble Causeway much better. He is a real racehorse who has just had some unfortunate physical ailments. Andromedas Hero is nothing but a plodder, always ready to pass dead tired horses but never threatening the top 1 or 2.

I'm glad you don't like him Tim. Good vibes.

And Mike I think Wild Desert will also run a nice race.

Gander 06-30-2006 08:28 AM

No problem Randall, and dont worry, the Mets will soon be back taking on those NL East slobs soon enough. Clearly exposed these last 3 nights. Good thing for them they have no competition in that poor excuse for a division and for that matter league.

randallscott35 06-30-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
No problem Randall, and dont worry, the Mets will soon be back taking on those NL East slobs soon enough. Clearly exposed these last 3 nights. Good thing for them they have no competition in that poor excuse for a division and for that matter league.

I won't deny that the NL stinks in general....But isn't the goal to get to the World Series and then win it? They have an easier chance to get there and by the time they do, they will have made some moves to be a better team.

Gander 06-30-2006 08:37 AM

Good luck with your play Randall. There is a small tiny chance I may play this race but I doubt it. Going away to Hampton Beach, NH to see some relatives this weekend. There is a dog track which has simulcast of Belmont nearby but that is a longshot. Love the card though. Hit em good.

As far as the Mets go, I am really pulling for them to do well this year. How can you not like that crew? Between now and the playoffs they need to get involved in some tough games, going into the playoffs "soft" is never a good thing. Look at the Cards of 2004 and 2005, and the Mariners the year they won 120 games.

alysheba4 06-30-2006 11:36 AM

sweet...... my buddy loves the dog track, always bets a 1,3, 5 tri bx. he has
scored some big tris.:rolleyes:

JJP 06-30-2006 12:22 PM

To answer the original question, without a blazing pace, Andromeda's Hero has no shot. He has three speeds: slow, slower and even slower yet.

1st_Saturday_in_May 06-30-2006 02:58 PM

I'm really liking Wild Desert and Tap Day in here. Desert should get a nice trip around on the rail - not sure if he wants the lead though but he may inherit it. Tap Day makes his 3rd start of the year after winning at Bel last time, picks up Velazquez, ran 2nd here last year, and the running style fits!

Pedigree Ann 06-30-2006 07:54 PM

Andromeda's Hero is a one-paced stayer. He needs the horses in front of him to get really tired or get a distance like the REAL Jockey Club Gold Cup (2miles).

I don't see much speed in here, either, but I see Invasor dictating the pace, like he did in the Pimlico Special. And he does stay on, when the milers start to back up.

Scav 06-30-2006 09:35 PM

You guys just don't get it. Dutrow and whoever is riding Wild Dessert is SENDING TOMORROW for the exact reason that everyone is saying, no speed....This horse is going to open up a 2 length lead and hope to stay the whole way, no doubt in my mind.

Thunder Gulch 07-01-2006 08:10 AM

I'm going to agree with some of you that Andromenas Hero is a one run horse that would need an ideal setup to win.

Thunder Gulch 07-01-2006 08:34 AM

I'm going to agree with some of you that Andromenas Hero is a one run horse that would need an ideal setup to win.

Cunningham Racing 07-01-2006 08:58 AM

I hate Zito's horses in this race.....I think pretty much any of the rest of the field can win though...Zito's pair are both plodders

Danzig 07-01-2006 09:51 AM

i agree about the zitos....
wild desert/invasor ex? maybe add in one of the plodders for a tri...

Pedigree Ann 07-01-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i agree about the zitos....
wild desert/invasor ex? maybe add in one of the plodders for a tri...

I hope you bet that exacta boxed, and the plodder Andromeda's Hero for tri. You had it nailed.

randallscott35 07-01-2006 10:28 PM

Last I looked the "plodder" was well clear of the rest of the horses and finished a whole length behind 2nd at 19-1. There was no beating the winner today...I would say he ran a very good race.---he was also much closer to the pace today and still finished well.

Cunningham Racing 07-01-2006 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Last I looked the "plodder" was well clear of the rest of the horses and finished a whole length behind 2nd at 19-1. There was no beating the winner today...I would say he ran a very good race.---he was also much closer to the pace today and still finished well.

That is the very epitome of a plodder....a horse that always clunks up in the TRIS and SUPERS, etc...he is not fast enough to win at Gr. I or II level but he is always eligable of picking up the pieces of tired and beaten horses to post a big price on the board....this is EXACTLY what well-known plodders do on a regular basis....they have a slow, grinding, gradual close that usually rewards them with a non-threatening small piece of the purse...Andromeda's Hero wasa never going to threaten in that race....

randallscott35 07-01-2006 10:38 PM

Ok Cunningham. My bad.

Danzig 07-01-2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
I hope you bet that exacta boxed, and the plodder Andromeda's Hero for tri. You had it nailed.


i told my daughter after watching the races on espn that i should have gone to the track today, as i chose dance in the mood when they started discussing that race.....didn't bet one thin dime on anything. lol


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