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ArlJim78 06-04-2007 12:28 PM

Poor Paris
 
no peroxide or hair extensions for three weeks!!!

oh the inhumanity of it all


http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/04/the-ha...ns-have-to-go/

somerfrost 06-04-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
no peroxide or hair extensions for three weeks!!!

oh the inhumanity of it all


http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/04/the-ha...ns-have-to-go/


Media circus....the poor correctional officers and staff must be hating life about now! Paris won't be a problem but having a mike stuck in your face everyday and knowing if you're even overheard making a comment about her it will appear on Entertainment Tonight...I'd be in a less than cordial mood!

Buffymommy 06-04-2007 01:43 PM

Poor poor little rich girl.

I agree with you about the correctional officers, but at least her cellmate will get a book deal.

Coach Pants 06-04-2007 02:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqUig75bAz8

somerfrost 06-04-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants


I know what folks here will say but I found that unfunny and inappropriate, I love good standup comedy but too often today, performers seem to think that the only way to get a laugh is to use profanity or make fun of someone. I loved the old guys like Redd Foxx, who were baldy but funny but simply spewing profanity or belittling someone isn't funny to me. It appears Paris was in the audience...now I understand that with fame comes some of this stuff but surely this woman could have been a bit more creative with her jokes. Does Paris deserve to be held accountable for her behavior? Sure! But does she deserve that?

Coach Pants 06-04-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I know what folks here will say but I found that unfunny and inappropriate, I love good standup comedy but too often today, performers seem to think that the only way to get a laugh is to use profanity or make fun of someone. I loved the old guys like Redd Foxx, who were baldy but funny but simply spewing profanity or belittling someone isn't funny to me. It appears Paris was in the audience...now I understand that with fame comes some of this stuff but surely this woman could have been a bit more creative with her jokes. Does Paris deserve to be held accountable for her behavior? Sure! But does she deserve that?

Well she is known for that homemade porno...

ArlJim78 06-04-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
How many spoof-porns do you think this little episode will inspire???


I mean the script practically writes itself!

Perhaps:

"Doing Hard time with Paris"

or

"Paris learns the Penal system"

jman5581 06-04-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants


Ol' Jack looked like he was IN THE KNOW!! hahahahaha

AeWingnut 06-04-2007 03:41 PM

two words
 
Conjugal Visits

SentToStud 06-04-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I know what folks here will say but I found that unfunny and inappropriate, I love good standup comedy but too often today, performers seem to think that the only way to get a laugh is to use profanity or make fun of someone. I loved the old guys like Redd Foxx, who were baldy but funny but simply spewing profanity or belittling someone isn't funny to me. It appears Paris was in the audience...now I understand that with fame comes some of this stuff but surely this woman could have been a bit more creative with her jokes. Does Paris deserve to be held accountable for her behavior? Sure! But does she deserve that?

Redd Foxx?

I saw him live a couple times and he is no doubt the "dirtiest" act I ever saw. Rudy Ray Moore was a close second.

somerfrost 06-04-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Redd Foxx?

I saw him live a couple times and he is no doubt the "dirtiest" act I ever saw. Rudy Ray Moore was a close second.

He was all that...but he was also hilarious!

somerfrost 06-04-2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I thought it was very funny. Too bad Paris can't laugh at herself like she laughs at others.

You're missing the point...whether Paris can laugh at herself or not is hardly justification for using someone's misfortune/sadness/pain (whether you think deserved or not) to mock them! Paris is responsible for her behavior, we each are responsible for ours...good natured kidding is one thing, those remarks were vicious and in a public forum with her there to endure same were/are grotesque!

jman5581 06-04-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
You're missing the point...whether Paris can laugh at herself or not is hardly justification for using someone's misfortune/sadness/pain (whether you think deserved or not) to mock them! Paris is responsible for her behavior, we each are responsible for ours...good natured kidding is one thing, those remarks were vicious and in a public forum with her there to endure same were/are grotesque!

I suggest turning it off it it's grotesque to you...it's Sarah Silverman and most people are familiar with her style...Paris invited it by being there and making a big deal out of going to jail to begin with.

ArlJim78 06-04-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
You're missing the point...whether Paris can laugh at herself or not is hardly justification for using someone's misfortune/sadness/pain (whether you think deserved or not) to mock them! Paris is responsible for her behavior, we each are responsible for ours...good natured kidding is one thing, those remarks were vicious and in a public forum with her there to endure same were/are grotesque!

I agree with you. Humour is fine but it appeared inappropriate to me, the wrong setting with her sitting right there.

somerfrost 06-04-2007 07:15 PM

One guy tells me to turn it off and the next says I get old...well, news flash!! This is me, this is how I think! I've posted here and at ESPN for over 10 years so everybody knows how I think...if I get old, skip my posts! You get tired of reading things you don't like...don't read what I write! Freedom of speech works both ways and frankly..I don't give a damn if I annoy you! Making fun of people when they are vunerable is disgusting...you enjoy it, well...I've made it clear what I think about that! Apparently I'm not the only one who found it somewhat inappropriate!

The Bid 06-04-2007 07:39 PM

That jail will tighten her up a little. Jail is a great experience for anybody with the attitude that Paris has

somerfrost 06-04-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Take your own advice. Skip my posts as well. As for Paris, you have to be kidding. On Howard Stern this morning, another favorite of yours I know. They had on an actress Bijou Phillips, daughter of John Phillips. She said she has been friends with Paris since they were 10. She mentioned how funny Paris is. Howard wondered how she was funny. Bijou said that Paris has her own sort of language that she uses with her friends and basically rips people apart in front of their face to her friends and the person that is getting torn up has no clue because it's in Paris' secret language.

Now this is a friend of hers saying this. So I ask you, is this disgusting also? This is why I said Paris can't laugh at herself like she does others. The jokes about Paris were funny. Chill out a little and you might enjoy things a bit more. Not everything is a cause that you need to get behind.


I guess you are simply unwilling or unable to grasp the simple point I make...IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PARIS DOES or what kind of a person she may or may not be...she will answer for her actions, she alone is responsible for them. What matters, and it's the only thing that really matters in this world, is what each of us does! We are each responsible only for what we do...so when YOU make fun of someone's misfortune, all the smoke screen about who or what they may be is meaningless...I believe in the Threefold Law, others have different beliefs but most believe in the end, we reap what we sow.

MaTH716 06-04-2007 07:58 PM

Somer, I understand what you are saying. But everyone in Hollywood is fair game at those award shows. They pick on everyone. Maybe Silverman did go over the line, but I think it just seemed worse because Paris was there. Personally maybe the jail time will smarten her up a bit. I am sick and tired of seeing these rich kids think that they can get away with things that me and you would be doing alot of time for.

hi_im_god 06-04-2007 08:05 PM

she is reaping what she sowed.

she is well known for grainy porn's, being kinda dumb and very shallow. that wasn't mother theresa being mocked.

i think the cheering when it is mentioned she's going to jail is a clue how quickly her act has gotten old.

the best part was nothing sarah silverman said but just the befuddled look on paris hilton's face. you'd almost think it's starting to dawn on her how hated she's made herself.

i think your 3 fold law is unfolding right before us.

MaTH716 06-04-2007 09:06 PM

I just think that vison of Paris sitting there motionless and expressionless magnified the whole situation. It wasn't like she was being called a liar or a terrible actress. The woman said that they were going to paint the bars on her cell to look like penises, and that she hoped Paris wouldn't chip her teeth. Ouch! That is fifteen yards and an automatic first down.

MaTH716 06-04-2007 09:18 PM

Wow, you're right Taken off you tube. But knowing MTV it week be on about 27 times this weekend.

ArlJim78 06-04-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
Why is it worse that she was there?? It seems to me, if you are going to say something about someone, doing so to their face is better than not...no?

but it wasn't really to her face, Paris was not in a position to respond.
I also didn't find it funny. To me it looked like Sarah Silverman took a cheap shot because she knew she could, an easy target that no one would defend right now. Paris is certainly fair game for humor, but I prefer humor based less on public humiliation, less crass.

somerfrost 06-04-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
Why is it worse that she was there?? It seems to me, if you are going to say something about someone, doing so to their face is better than not...no?


I agree in principle...at least as far as saying that, to me, it would still be wrong whether she was there or not. The one additional aspect though is the hurtfulness of it...seeing her sitting there with all those people and being subjected to that. Let me try an analogy here (I cringe just thinking about this cause folks always go off on my analogies)...if a bunch of KKK types celebrate the Holocaust amongst themselves at a skinhead rally, that to me is indefensible (but legal under the 1st Ammendment) but if they march into a Jewish neighborhood and force their views on the folks there, they are causing pain...to me, that's where the First Ammendment ends....speech, when it causes others pain is not a "right", at least by natural law. I would argue that while the act itself is "wrong", doing it in such a way as to hurt someone (in this case subjecting Ms Hilton to it in public) elevates the degree of "wrongfulness".

somerfrost 06-04-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
but it wasn't really to her face, Paris was not in a position to respond.
I also didn't find it funny. To me it looked like Sarah Silverman took a cheap shot because she knew she could, an easy target that no one would defend right now. Paris is certainly fair game for humor, but I prefer humor based less on public humiliation, less crass.


I agree!

somerfrost 06-04-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
she is reaping what she sowed.

she is well known for grainy porn's, being kinda dumb and very shallow. that wasn't mother theresa being mocked.

i think the cheering when it is mentioned she's going to jail is a clue how quickly her act has gotten old.

the best part was nothing sarah silverman said but just the befuddled look on paris hilton's face. you'd almost think it's starting to dawn on her how hated she's made herself.

i think your 3 fold law is unfolding right before us.


Your last sentence may indeed be correct, I don't know...all I'm saying is that I believe I'll likewise be held accountable someday!

MaTH716 06-04-2007 09:24 PM

This is the kind of thing that could make Silverman mainstream. I have heard of her, but I am really not familiar with her work. Who knows, the right people might thing she's funny and edgy and next thing you know she's hosting the Oscars. Maybe that's what she was aiming for by taking such a cheap shot at Paris.

jman5581 06-04-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I guess you are simply unwilling or unable to grasp the simple point I make...IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PARIS DOES or what kind of a person she may or may not be...she will answer for her actions, she alone is responsible for them. What matters, and it's the only thing that really matters in this world, is what each of us does! We are each responsible only for what we do...so when YOU make fun of someone's misfortune, all the smoke screen about who or what they may be is meaningless...I believe in the Threefold Law, others have different beliefs but most believe in the end, we reap what we sow.


What a crusty botch of nature a person must be that can't laugh at the crushed opportunity and utter ignorance/pomposity of Paris Hilton. She's made herself open to these "jokes." She probably knew it was coming. Who makes a red carpet appearance the night before going to jail? She has opened herself up to these things. It's the very thing that makes her what she is... she isn't exactly known by her niceties in life.

Silverman's joke did nothing but add to her cultural worth. That's just my opinion. I don't condone her behavior or example. But, our culture seems to value it highly.

somerfrost 06-04-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Do me a favor, don't talk down to me. I see your point, I just disagree with it. As for the other BS you have posted, I'm not going to go there. And I stand by the point that your hollier than thou routine is annoying and frankly completely unbelievable at best. Weekly we are privy to what Somerfrost finds inappropriate. It just gets old man. No need to get all serious with EVERY thread. Let me ask you another thing, if Hilton wasn't offended by it, which neither of us know if she was or wasn't, would it still be inappropriate?


Yes it would still be wrong! If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, does it still make a sound? Again, you are trying to connect right and wrong to another person...it isn't wrong because Ms Hilton feels one way or another, it's wrong cause it's wrong. I would agree that if it hurt her then that speaks to degree. I speak (in this case post) what I feel to be the truth, whether it annoys you is of no concern to me.

somerfrost 06-04-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
What a crusty botch of nature a person must be that can't laugh at the crushed opportunity and utter ignorance/pomposity of Paris Hilton. She's made herself open to these "jokes." She probably knew it was coming. Who makes a red carpet appearance the night before going to jail? She has opened herself up to these things. It's the very thing that makes her what she is... she isn't exactly known by her niceties in life.

Silverman's joke did nothing but add to her cultural worth. That's just my opinion. I don't condone her behavior or example. But, our culture seems to value it highly.


So, you are saying that if a person "deserves" to be mistreated then that makes it OK? Again, you are making this about Ms Hilton when it's really about Ms Silverman's behavior. (there are a million analogies I could inject here but i know better).

ArlJim78 06-04-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
This is the kind of thing that could make Silverman mainstream. I have heard of her, but I am really not familiar with her work. Who knows, the right people might thing she's funny and edgy and next thing you know she's hosting the Oscars. Maybe that's what she was aiming for by taking such a cheap shot at Paris.

i believe you hit the nail on the head here, I think she used the opportunity to get herself talked about.

I kinda like Sarah Silverman but I don't think her act plays well to a wide audience so I don't see her hosting the oscars any time soon.

jman5581 06-04-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Again, you are making this about Ms Hilton when it's really about Ms Silverman's behavior.

Actually, no, I didn't just address PH. I also said what Silverman is accomplishing by doing this. She's helping PH out. This didn't do PH any harm. She came there to be a part of it.


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