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The Indomitable DrugS 05-24-2007 11:14 PM

Street Cry video
 
Here are videos of the two excellent 2-year-old races between Street Cry and Flame Thrower. (Del Mar Futurity and Norfolk Stakes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hj-URFpIz4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S25uEggMSA

Street Cry, is of course the sire of Kentucky Derby winner Street Sense. He lost both races in narrow fashion to Flame Thrower...both in hanging fashion with an Alydar-esque action.

Both races yielded strong triple digit Beyer Speed figures....and are two of the most exciting 2yo races run this decade.

whodey17 05-24-2007 11:23 PM

Thanks for posting these. Two fine races.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-24-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
How much longer are we going to press this issue? At this point it has to be overkill. Last week, maybe. Now, definitely.

It wasn't really to press any issue. They were two great races---and I'm sure many people haven't seen them before.

But you are right---I wouldn't have posted a link to them if they had no connection with last week. Still....what does it hurt?

sumitas 05-24-2007 11:36 PM

Good races, tx...i see no connection between these and recent races.

if anything, Flame Thrower has more in common with Curlin and Spectacular Bid in that all 3 horses outrun their pedigree. all 3 have weak families that may have or will adversely affect them at stud.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-24-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm busting your balls. But let me play Devil's Advocate, Flame Thrower was pretty good. At that point in their careers he was IMO better than Street Cry and seemed to come alive when met with a challenge. Isn't it possible he was just better?

They were both really awesome 2-year-olds. I guess Flame Thrower was the more precocious of the two---and certainly seemed to have more heart of the two.

However--Street Cry got a dream setup in the Del Mar Futurity...as FT was out there battling with three wickedly fast horses. He really shouldn't have lost that one.

They were certainly two very different kind of horses. Flame Thrower was actually just a $27K September yearling, and resold for $270K just about a half a year later at OBS April....after working the outright fastest 1/4 mile.

Street Cry was bred in Ireland---and his mother won the Group one Irish Oaks in Europe as a 3-year-old.

sumitas 05-24-2007 11:57 PM

She did, but my point was Flame Thrower. Just looking at families over the generations I'd say all 3 have a weakness there. Overall, Curlin probably has a deeper family than Flame Thrower or Spectacular Bid, but still I'd be wary of him at stud until he proves himself.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-25-2007 12:08 AM

Here was Street Cry's finest moment of glory.......winning the 2002 Dubai World Cup in blowout fashion...after getting a dream rail-skimming ride from Calvin Bo....oops...that was Jerry Bailey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM86TrZH_to

If anyones curious, he followed this race up with a 6 1/2 length 118 Beyer romp in the Grade 1 Stephen Foster...and he wasn't even the favorite. Congaree was.

I don't know---I'm probably in the minority...but I see a lot of Street Cry in Street Sense when I watch the two of them on film. I steadfastly believe the sire was the better horse of the two--but, Street Sense can still get better, and prove me wrong about that.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-25-2007 12:14 AM

No, I will not let it die!

I was trying to resist the last post---but I couldn't. Sorry man.

docicu3 05-25-2007 12:55 AM

And the rest of us are just richer for the history lesson!!!!

brockguy 05-25-2007 04:53 AM

Street Cry was 2nd fav for that Dubai World Cup race as well (at British odds). He was 9/2 2nd choice behind the 2/5 favourite Sakhee..He beat him 9 lengths..

Pointg5 05-25-2007 04:59 AM

Whatever happened to Arabian Light? He won the Breeders Futurity in impressive fashion at KEE and was never heard from again. He circled the field and won, something not easy to do at KEE with the shortened stretch for 1 1/16th races.

Charismatic1 05-25-2007 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Whatever happened to Arabian Light? He won the Breeders Futurity in impressive fashion at KEE and was never heard from again. He circled the field and won, something not easy to do at KEE with the shortened stretch for 1 1/16th races.

Pretty sure he was retired to Saudi Arabia. I liked that horse a lot considering that move he made at Keeneland, and I thought he ran pretty strong until the final 1/16 of the Juvy. I was looking forward to seeing him run on the TC trail in '01, but I never heard a thing from him again.

KirisClown 05-25-2007 07:25 AM

Another one showcasing Street Cry's amazing determination...

2001 UAE Derby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1wk0yVp0P4

philcski 05-25-2007 07:32 AM

My personal favorite Street Cry race was the loss to Left Bank in the Whitney. That was a battle for the ages, and one that is STILL used on the cover of the DRF "Players Edition", if I recall correctly from my latest trip to Vegas.

If someone could find a video link to it I'd appreciate it.

KirisClown 05-25-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
My personal favorite Street Cry race was the loss to Left Bank in the Whitney. That was a battle for the ages, and one that is STILL used on the cover of the DRF "Players Edition", if I recall correctly from my latest trip to Vegas.

If someone could find a video link to it I'd appreciate it.


It's on this page... http://www.nyra.com/Saratoga/Broadcast/Video/2002.html

Second column, three down...

brockguy 05-25-2007 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
My personal favorite Street Cry race was the loss to Left Bank in the Whitney. That was a battle for the ages, and one that is STILL used on the cover of the DRF "Players Edition", if I recall correctly from my latest trip to Vegas.

If someone could find a video link to it I'd appreciate it.

both horses last races i think.. a shame.. I remember talking to Tabor after the loss of Left Bank and he was devestated..

philcski 05-25-2007 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
both horses last races i think.. a shame.. I remember talking to Tabor after the loss of Left Bank and he was devestated..

Yes, I believe you are correct. Left Bank died of colic a couple months after (got the Eclipse for Older HOY posthumously) and I don't remember offhand what happened to Street Cry but he didn't make it to the JCGC or the BCC.

They probably would have been the two favorites in the BCC that year.

ARyan 05-25-2007 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
It wasn't really to press any issue.They were two great races---and I'm sure many people haven't seen them before.

But you are right---I wouldn't have posted a link to them if they had no connection with last week. Still....what does it hurt?



I am calling shenanigans on that in bold. While you were truthful in your second and third statements, your first was an outright bold face lie.

I feel you are a smart person, but also a bullheadedly cheeky person, who boundlessly tries to make his opinion known. If you stepped off your internal gas pedal 15%, I think more people, than already do, would respect you and your suasive assessments.

XIIPointStables 05-25-2007 09:12 AM

Either way, these are awesome links guys thanks.

I didn't really start following racing until 2003ish, and to be able to look back into the recent past is a treat.

Thanks for posting!

Someone should start a thread/page of all the video available online of great/important races.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-25-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirisClown
Another one showcasing Street Cry's amazing determination...

2001 UAE Derby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1wk0yVp0P4

Thanks for that one...I hadn't seen it in a while.


on the TVG coverage through the Dubai feed that day---they had an overhead view of the race and showed it in the replay afterwards---Street Cry actually surged to about a neck-to-half length lead, and Express Tour came back very late. It was an amazing camera angle. It was a lot more dramatic than the pan view.

Mortimer 05-25-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirisClown
It's on this page... http://www.nyra.com/Saratoga/Broadcast/Video/2002.html

Second column, three down...

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Krispy sir.




How is Don doing?

ArlJim78 05-25-2007 06:21 PM

Good thread here, with some really fine video look backs.
Street Cry and Street Sense have really given some memorable performances.

Also, how good was Left Bank in the Whitney?

KirisClown 05-25-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
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Krispy sir.

How is Don doing?


I havent spoken to Don since DRF shut down....

Hopefully he's doing well, he was always a nice guy...

Mortimer 05-25-2007 07:52 PM

Thanks. He sure is and I hope so,too.


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