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SentToStud 05-23-2007 11:42 AM
Harlington Returns
 
Thursday, Belmont 8th. Once upon a time he did beat Premium Tap.

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 12:23 PM
WOO


Premium Tap isnt a grade 1 caliber horse dont be fooled

cakes44 05-23-2007 12:24 PM
Either that was sarcastic or possibly the dumbest post of the year.

SentToStud 05-23-2007 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
WOO


Premium Tap isnt a grade 1 caliber horse dont be fooled
lol. Well, if Harlington's not enough for you, I see Sinister Minister is also in tomorrow. Didn't you once lose a week's pay on that one?

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 12:31 PM
i love Harlington its Premium Tap I dont like

Premium Tap will come in 2nd if it was a claimer, grade 3, overnight stake, or Grade 1 vs Secretariat. Hes of those horses

estreetposse 05-23-2007 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
lol. Well, if Harlington's not enough for you, I see Sinister Minister is also in tomorrow. Didn't you once lose a week's pay on that one?

Ask him how CQ has done for him lately.:(

cakes44 05-23-2007 12:32 PM
Or he might win in a grade 1, which he did twice last year. You are amazing.

slotdirt 05-23-2007 12:33 PM
That's really weird. I swear he won the Clark and the Woodward last year.

robfla 05-23-2007 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
WOO


Premium Tap isnt a grade 1 caliber horse dont be fooled


incorrect = not dumbest post of year, but of century

Cajungator26 05-23-2007 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
WOO


Premium Tap isnt a grade 1 caliber horse dont be fooled
Give it up, Jerry.

miraja2 05-23-2007 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
WOO


Premium Tap isnt a grade 1 caliber horse dont be fooled
Once a horse has already won two G1s....and hit the board in the two biggest G1s in the world, it seems ridiculous to say that he is "not G1 caliber."
You might as well say that he isn't actually a horse.

miraja2 05-23-2007 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by robfla
incorrect = not dumbest post of year, but of century
Absolutely not.
There was a poster on the "old board" who once accused a jockey of injecting a horse with steroids..........in the middle of a race. The sad part was that wasn't even the most outrageous thing that particular individual posted.
Seattle is clearly wrong here.....but this is certainly NOT the post of the year......let alone of the century.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-23-2007 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
Absolutely not.
There was a poster on the "old board" who once accused a jockey of injecting a horse with steroids..........in the middle of a race. The sad part was that wasn't even the most outrageous thing that particular individual posted.
Impressive.

slotdirt 05-23-2007 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
Absolutely not.
There was a poster on the "old board" who once accused a jockey of injecting a horse with steroids..........in the middle of a race. The sad part was that wasn't even the most outrageous thing that particular individual posted.
Seattle is clearly wrong here.....but this is certainly NOT the post of the year......let alone of the century.
Not steroids, meth. This was per the Greta Kuntzweiler meth incident.

Danzig 05-23-2007 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Not steroids, meth. This was per the Greta Kuntzweiler meth incident.
wasn't there a second jock on the grassy knoll??;)

miraja2 05-23-2007 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Not steroids, meth.
Was that what it was? I knew it was something crazy like that.
Anyway, to get back on topic it is nice to see Harlington back.
He has an outstanding pedigree, is 5 for 7 lifetime, and when he won the Gulfstream Park Handicap last year he beat, among others, Its No Joke. While certaintly not a world-beater, Its No Joke went on to have a very nice campaign last year.

blackthroatedwind 05-23-2007 06:22 PM
Harlington's return is almost as exciting as a rerelease of " Ishtar. "

JDank34 05-23-2007 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Harlington's return is almost as exciting as a rerelease of " Ishtar. "

easily the best post I have ever read here......well said BTW!!!

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-23-2007 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
Absolutely not.
There was a poster on the "old board" who once accused a jockey of injecting a horse with steroids..........in the middle of a race. The sad part was that wasn't even the most outrageous thing that particular individual posted.
Seattle is clearly wrong here.....but this is certainly NOT the post of the year......let alone of the century.
Yeah, that guy is a piece of work! :rolleyes:

miraja2 05-23-2007 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Harlington's return is almost as exciting as a rerelease of " Ishtar. "
That movie won the Razzie for worst director, but SOMEHOW did not win the award for worst picture. It was nominated....but didn't win. I don't know how.

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:02 PM
Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:08 PM
so far id be a total idiot to say yes given his progress as a 3 yr old, but he did win the hopeful and thats a grade 1. With that said he would have to show alot more to even be considered a true grade 1 class horse

Danzig 05-23-2007 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So the grade 1, the Woodward, that Premium Tap won doesn't count?
well, of course not silly, since prem tap isn't a gr 1 horse!

declansharbor 05-23-2007 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win

Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)

fpsoxfan 05-23-2007 08:27 PM
[quote=DaHoss9698]Is Circular Quay a true grade 1 horse?[/QUOTE]

Once upon a time, I thought he was...and someone tried to warn me...oh..I think that was you.:)

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't even know why I am bothering. Sometimes I think I'd just be better off hitting myself in the forehead with a hammer, basically the same result.
it is quite pointless.

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)

lots of good horses finish 2nd to a HOY, but they arent of true grade 1 caliber

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:35 PM
what about horses like Early Pioneer, and that horse that won the Stephen Foster last year. Your telling me they are true grade 1 horses as well and can compete with the best?

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:46 PM
who did he run against in the Woodward? Clark?.............were there other Grade 1 performers in the race???

Flower Alley doesnt count, we damn well know what happened to him

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
To be fair, you are right, I don't think Seek Gold is a grade 1 horse. However, given your history of picking horses here and on other sites, do you really think you are the best person to be assessing talent?

And I'm still waiting for an answer as to why winning the grade 1 Woodward, running 3rd in the BC Classic to a HOY and 3 year old champ, and running second to that same HOY again does not make him a grade 1 caliber horse. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for this answer.

For s hits and giggles, would it be possible for you to give me a few examples of grade 1 caliber horses running right now. And please, try and make it as amusing as your top 10 list, I need a good laugh.
The last time he did a top horses in training list I believe horses like Ravel were on it. There were some other really funny ones as well.

miraja2 05-23-2007 09:10 PM
Oh for the love of pointgiven1985, now he is saying that a horse that has won SIX G1s (Lava Man) is not a G1 caliber horse. I am not a big fan of Lava Man, and he certainly has some severe limitations as a racehorse, but once a horse wins six G1s, saying that he isn't G1 caliber is just foolish.
Give up trying to convince him otherwise. He apparently just doesn't get it.

slotdirt 05-24-2007 08:11 AM
Colonial Colony!

cakes44 05-24-2007 08:20 AM
For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon

Antitrust32 05-24-2007 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44
For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon

besides circular quay and ravel, that is not too bad of a list

premium tap should be on that list though an he is no doubt in anyones mind (except for seattles) that he is a grade 1 horse. Premium Tap should be like 3 or 4 on that list. Didnt he win some big Arabian stake this year (Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Cup (KSA,12F). And, according to the NTRA, he won two Grade 1 and historically major races in the Woodward and Clark.

2.5 million in winnings aint too shabby either

Seattleallstar 05-24-2007 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Just so I know, was Bernardini a grade 1 caliber horse?

he beat Bernardini???....thats news to me


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