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fpsoxfan 05-15-2007 10:33 AM

Quay confirmed for Preakness
 
He's officially going. Johnny V. is in the saddle.

IrishofNDMan 05-15-2007 10:52 AM

Street Sense
with
Hard Spun and Curlin
with
CQ


I think you got yourself a tri right there.

then I will do

Hard Spun and Curlin
with
Street Sense
with
CQ

cmorioles 05-15-2007 10:56 AM

You might get 2 to 1 on that bet.

MaTH716 05-15-2007 10:56 AM

Great this will be my 2007 gem, like Point Determined, Borrego, Perfect Drift, Dollar Bill, etc..................................

lemoncrush 05-15-2007 11:01 AM

Interesting....I like CQ and find it interesting Johnny V takes off King of the Roxy for him.
Hope the track is playing fair on Saturday, and we might have an interesting race after all.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Interesting....I like CQ and find it interesting Johnny V takes off King of the Roxy for him.
Hope the track is playing fair on Saturday, and we might have an interesting race after all.


Why would he possibly ride King of the Roxy over Circular Quay?

KirisClown 05-15-2007 11:25 AM

Todd must want to add to his 0 for stats...

Scurlogue Champ 05-15-2007 11:31 AM

I reckon I'll be an idiot and bet him again.

Hope he pays me back all I lost on the derby.

I think Curlin will win the Preakness officially.

But when it comes time to lay the money down, I'll probably take Circular Quay out of stubborn-ness and bad betting habits.

Scav 05-15-2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
I reckon I'll be an idiot and bet him again.

Hope he pays me back all I lost on the derby.

I think Curlin will win the Preakness officially.

But when it comes time to lay the money down, I'll probably take Circular Quay out of stubborn-ness and bad betting habits.

Save your money, no way a horse with that frame runs back Mood, I also really don't believe that number he ran TG wise. While I agree that ground loss is an issue, I think that some numbers could be juiced with ground loss, on a limited basis, CQ's is one of them. There is absolutely no way, in my limited knowledge of TG and others, that SS was only ~4 lengths better then CQ on Derby Day, it was more like 10.

lemoncrush 05-15-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Why would he possibly ride King of the Roxy over Circular Quay?

Only because I assume he committed to Team Valor. Not because he prefers the horse over CQ.
I'm sure the Kingoftheroxy connections would be fine with Gomez, but since Gomez has had past success riding CQ, maybe they just put him back up?

tycharles01 05-15-2007 11:37 AM

Gomez is riding KOTR he was training on him this past weekend

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:43 AM

I would guess the decision is more Todd's or Coolmore's.

Honestly, does it matter who rides either horse? Hell, Mig deserves the mount on King of the Roxy, as he gave him a perfect ride in the Santa Anita Derby.

Scav 05-15-2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I would guess the decision is more Todd's or Coolmore's.

Honestly, does it matter who rides either horse? Hell, Mig deserves the mount on King of the Roxy, as he gave him a perfect ride in the Santa Anita Derby.

Yes he does, I am guessing that Mig had a two race committment and would have got the ride IF he ran in the Derby. T/F?

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Yes he does, I am guessing that Mig had a two race committment and would have got the ride IF he ran in the Derby. T/F?

False.

Coach Pants 05-15-2007 12:03 PM

When CQ does hit the shed i'm hoping his firstborn is named Schlitt's Guay.

milliam 05-15-2007 12:13 PM

Is there any reason C P west is entered is Zito happy trying to round out the superfecta.

ArlJim78 05-15-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
Is there any reason C P west is entered is Zito happy trying to round out the superfecta.

Who knows, he must feel that CP West is doing well and wants to take a shot.

What does that have to do with Circular Quay?

Scav 05-15-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He was taking another shot at somebody, I think I know who. Me thinks Milliam is a friend from the past.

yep, think the same, stiring up some kind of issues....

ArlJim78 05-15-2007 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He was taking another shot at somebody, I think I know who. Me thinks Milliam is a friend from the past.

Believe me, I knew from the beginning its a pot stirrer with an agenda.

Coach Pants 05-15-2007 12:43 PM

I know he's concerned about Chuck's diet. Could be Richard Simmons.

Scav 05-15-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Believe me, I knew from the beginning its a pot stirrer with an agenda.

Easy Agent Jim

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-15-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah you're right. Back to the topic at hand, CQ is up the track in the Preakness. Like I said yesterday, Pletcher decides he needs more time, so he lays CQ off 8 weeks into the Derby, now with a few days to go before the Preakness he decides he's ready, off a 2 week layoff. Something real fishy there.

i think he will get in the money..with curlin getting tired and hard spun showing his 3rd big race ,,street winning going away..

milliam 05-15-2007 01:11 PM

I wasn't taking a shot at anybody . It seems to me CQ would be a obvious for the Preakness he was proabably a short horse in the derby . I don't think Steve wants a bunch of people with 3000 posts patting each other on the back every day. I just put the Zito thing in because he always gets a pass.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
I wasn't taking a shot at anybody . It seems to me CQ would be a obvious for the Preakness he was proabably a short horse in the derby . I don't think Steve wants a bunch of people with 3000 posts patting each other on the back every day. I just put the Zito thing in because he always gets a pass.


I don't think Nick gets any more of a pass than most. He certainly gets more than his share of shots on this board.

miraja2 05-15-2007 01:49 PM

I liked CQ a lot in the Derby, and I think he could be a good value here in comparison to the top three.
To me this race is a tough one to figure out how to play, but I think including CQ in exactas and trifectas with Curlin and Hard Spun is the way to go. You have to assume that CB is going to try skimming the rail again with Street Sense, and one of these times he is going to get shut down. Maybe it won't be this race, or maybe Street Sense really is good enough to beat top horses without the ground-saving ride, but I am going to make him prove it to me one more time, largely because there will be ZERO value on him.
With all the speed up front, I think CQ is a factor here.
Look at his beyer numbers at Churchill Downs and other tracks. His best races at both 2 and 3 have NOT been at Churchill. Despite his two wins there, he has actually looked stronger at Saratoga and in Louisianna than he ever has at Churchill. He may like Pimilico.

milliam 05-15-2007 02:15 PM

I think alot of people who don't post much would post more if they didn't get what do you know you only have 20 posts or hoov what ever his name is you won't make it till your 28 post because you might have had a difference of opinion with somebody.

SentToStud 05-15-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
I think alot of people who don't post much would post more if they didn't get what do you know you only have 20 posts or hoov what ever his name is you won't make it till your 28 post because you might have had a difference of opinion with somebody.

You don't get your complimentary crying towel until 100 posts. Don't worry what anyone says. Fear not the beasts for they have rubber teeth.

ArlJim78 05-15-2007 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
I think alot of people who don't post much would post more if they didn't get what do you know you only have 20 posts or hoov what ever his name is you won't make it till your 28 post because you might have had a difference of opinion with somebody.

What is your point? Where is the evidence of Zito getting a pass?

No one gets a pass, if you have an opinion say it but you should expect to be challenged.

After you send out thinly veiled shots to BTW and Cannon, you just want to whine about not getting to say your opinion?

miraja2 05-15-2007 02:27 PM

What is it about threads involving CQ in the Preakness?
They all seem to......well.....stop being about CQ in the Preakness.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 02:35 PM

Not that I particularly think CP West has much of a chance, I also would have said the same thing about Birdstone in the Belmont, so I don't think Nick has to apologize to anyone. His record speaks for itself. The guy has won two Derbys, one Preakness, and one Belmont a lot of people thought he had no business being in ( and was 40-1 ).

I tell you what....I bet he finishes ahead of King of the Roxy.

the_fat_man 05-15-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I tell you what....I bet he finishes ahead of King of the Roxy.

Sure wish he'd done that in the Champagne.

milliam 05-15-2007 02:53 PM

I agree with BTW I just thought it was kind of a head scratcher after the last race where I was told he doing great and should win. I just didn't think he put any fight up at all. I was just surprized nobody thought it was odd he was running thats all.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-15-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
I agree with BTW I just thought it was kind of a head scratcher after the last race where I was told he doing great and should win. I just didn't think he put any fight up at all. I was just surprized nobody thought it was odd he was running thats all.

if you are who we dont think you are my bad ..and im no bully..but your making no friends here with some ill advised stabs at some great dters..

milliam 05-15-2007 04:13 PM

I never should have said Battle One had no chance. I know Mike Vietch picked him on on top. I just thought people were piling Sanders in the thread.

Danzig 05-15-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah you're right. Back to the topic at hand, CQ is up the track in the Preakness. Like I said yesterday, Pletcher decides he needs more time, so he lays CQ off 8 weeks into the Derby, now with a few days to go before the Preakness he decides he's ready, off a 2 week layoff. Something real fishy there.


yeah, reminds me of the decision to run any given saturday in the wood, rather than giving an extra week up to the bluegrass. and we all know how well that ended up. and apparently saturday has a hoof bruise now as well....

Danzig 05-15-2007 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliam
I never should have said Battle One had no chance. I know Mike Vietch picked him on on top. I just thought people were piling Sanders in the thread.

well, i certainly see the connection between the two....not. other people (myself included) piled on sanders. what that has to do with chuck and a horse he had i don't know.


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