Best in Baseball
 

This is my Top 10, regardless of records:

1- White Sox
2- Mets
3- Red Sox
4- Tigers
5- Yankees
6- Astros
7- Cardinals
8- A's
9- Blue Jays
10- Dodgers

:cool:

1 - white sox
2- mets
3 - red sox
4- yankees
5 - cardnials
6 - tigers
7 blue jays
8 -reds
9 -oakland
10 -Minnesota

houston - not yet - will depend on clemens , pettite
forgot about the dodgers

one thing is clear, the american league is so far and away better its a joke.

Don't worry about the Dodgers.Can't pitch Lowe every game (if they make the playoffs.)Bright future though.

Scuds- Your funny son. You were ripping D Lowe so bad last year and earlier this year and now you wish he could start every night. Told you the guy has mucho talent even out there away from his coveted Fenway. :cool:

Adderall(legal speed,)and new pssy at home, has made for a decent year.It doesn't make up for last year,but he is one of the few pitchers on the team that is earning his checks.Pretty funny to see them beat the ball into the ground.IF YOU KNEW OUR PITCHING STAFF,YOU WOULD SEE THAT HE IS ABOUT ALL WE GOT.SPEND 100 MIL,AND GOT 1 PITCHER.THE others want nothing to do with facing hitters from a top playoff type team.

D Lowe is married, isnt he? Did he get divorced?

LOL..Yea,had an affair with a RADIO/T.V. Lady out here.Divorced the old,but don't know for sure if he married the new.

Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for the info. Hope it was worth it.

You know whos cute, that Erin Andrews on ESPN, does all the baseball games. Wow, you see her last night interviewing one of the fans at the Colege game? Whooaa.

Haven't seen her yet.

"Dodgers pitcher Derek Lowe says he finally has a handle on his personal affairs. The Dodgers have agreed by naming him the opening-day starter. Lowe was talking about his publicized marital problems with wife Trinka, a situation that brewed through the season before becoming public in late July amid reports that he was having an affair with Carolyn Hughes, Fox Sports Net's Dodger reporter. Lowe has since filed for divorce and moved in with Hughes, who lost her job."

-- Los Angeles Times

Lowe's double-bad day
Derek Lowe started the Dodgers opener today and kinda bombed—he gave up eight runs in five innings. Either before or after the game, he also probably got word that revelations from depositions in his divorce case with Trinka Lowe were to be posted at RonFineman.com, the subscription-only site that last year broke the news of the pitcher's affair with Fox Sports' Dodgers reporter Carolyn Hughes. Depositions taken in Florida are public record, according to Fineman, who says that he attempted multiple times to reach all of the parties before posting the reports tonight. These are among the most noteworthy of Fineman's disclosures, summarized by me unless it's within quotes:

♦ Lowe said in his deposition that he suffers from ADD, was provided with Ritalin by a Red Sox doctor and has been given 20 mg daily doses of the stimulant Adderall by the Dodgers' trainer Stan Johnson. The drug was prescribed by team doctor Michael F. Mellman without an exam, says Fineman.

♦ Trinka Lowe alleged in her deposition that the pitcher's agent, Scott Boras, suggested an "intervention" to deal with the player's drinking and told her the Red Sox did not re-sign Lowe after the 2004 season because of his alcohol problem. In his deposition, Derek Lowe acknowledged that the Red Sox thought he had a drinking issue but that he disagreed.

♦ According to Fineman, Trinka Lowe said the alcohol issue got so bad when Boston was in the playoffs in 2004 that bullpen catcher Dana Lavangie phoned her at home in Fort Meyers, Florida "and told me that I needed to come up to Boston because Derek was falling apart....He was depressed. They had taken him out of the starting rotation. He was in the bullpen. They told him pretty much he wasn't going to touch the baseball for any of the playoffs."

♦ Lowe would get drunk last season in the Dodgers clubhouse with clubhouse manager Dave Dickinson, Trinka contends. Dickinson told Fineman "he would drink with Lowe occasionally after games, but not every night. And he also said he did not see Lowe get drunk in the clubhouse."

♦ Lowe was arrested and got probation after a domestic dispute before they were married, according to Trinka.

♦ Lowe gave Hughes a $33,000 Rolex watch.

♦ Lowe said he turned down a $45 million deal with the Florida Marlins to take $36 million from the Dodgers before last season.
Finally, a possibly revealing window into the Dodgers' social structure. In his deposition, Fineman reports, Lowe said that he went out to "team dinners" several times last season, his first in L.A. Asked if all 25 players attended, he said: "No. The American people, white people....We have a lot of Latins, and so I'm saying that the white people, there are probably eight people that went. Jeff Weaver, maybe Brad Penny. People along those lines." I guess Milton Bradley wasn't American enough...

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/20...e_bad_day.html

That is hilarious stuff. What a life D Lowe leads! LOL!

....sounds like a cry for help.

What is a hilarious is that this drunkin' misfit was solid steel in the 2004 World Series(after his wife was told a few days earlier to come to Boston cuz her drunkin' husband was "falling apart.")

Maybe he sweats so much out on the mound cuz he hasn't had a drink yet (on that day.)

"In his deposition, Derek Lowe acknowledged that the Red Sox thought he had a drinking issue but that he disagreed."


He disagreed? LOL

LOL! Its called denial Scuds.

Kind of like telling your spouse you dont have a gambling problem, its just a hobby like shopping is for women. LOL!

Dodgers/Rays trade
 

Dodgers just sent Dionner Navaro and J. Seo and a Player 2 be named later for
Toby Hall, Mark Hendrickson and 1 million bucks.

Well,different people have different ideas about when gambling becomes a problem.To me,if you bet money that you can't afford to lose,then it is a gambling problem.Other people(like yourself)feel guilty about the time they think they "waste" by gambling.As Oracle has told you,you tend to think everybody thinks(or should think)like you about stuff.Does Old man Ramsey bet money he can't afford to lose? No. Does he spend a lot of time handicapping,betting etc. each week? I would think so.Now ,you have compared gambling to drinking alcohol.Well,people who gamble too much,eat too much,smoke too much,and shop too much,have no problem doing their chosen profession without a problem with performance.It doesn't take long for drinking to affect job performance.So,I think the threshold of alcohol intake(the amount you drink to start to have a drinking issue) is pretty low.Well,Gander look at this one guy from Ohio that comes on here and ESPN with a drinking problem.How many times did it take to pss everybody off when he came on here drunk?....Once...I am sure there are people on this site with gambling problems that we all can all agree are gambling problems.Do they bother people on here? I don't think so.What I am telling you is that it doesn't take much drinking before you have a drinking issue.That is because drinking causes behavioural problems(not just health,or financial problems.)If somebody has a drinking issue,even strangers become aware of it pretty quickly.So,it doesn't take much drinking before one has a drinking issue. I have been watching TVG.Watching a few cheap races.I have zero desire to bet them.I don't know why.Now,I have known people that couldn't have that on in front of them without betting it.They are in prison.I think you have a tendency to be too quick to claim that people who bet horses have gambling problems.You were once homeless,and living in a car due to betting horses etc.,but I wouldn't be so quick in assuming people who bet horses will all just keep betting until they have problems that make them stop betting.Many stop betting when they told themselves they were going to stop betting.Not all gamblers lack self-discipline,but they are stained by the ones around them that do lack it.You tend to lack self-discipline(or did lack it at one time,)and one way to feel better about it is to say gamblers have a gambling problem.

Somebody took Seo? My God,that's like collecting poo.Grady was just on T.V. talking about it.I don't think anybody else could take longer to say so f'n little.

LOL !!

Concidering that it's the Rays, it's not very surprising.
I won't be back to work until Monday when they start the series against the Red Sox so I won't hear much until then...I myself am very curious as to why they took him. Now we have Seo and Edwin Jackson....LA east = Rays.

2nd inning,and Lowe gives up a 6. Lovely pitch location(as you can imagine.)They were looking for Seo(somebody bad to just pitch out the rest of the game,)but they traded him.

well...Im a Dodger fan (but I work for the Rays). LA got a decent left hander in Hendrickson and but a little downgrade in Toby Hall. I hope Dioner works out.
He makes his home here in tampa bay.

I followed LA around spring training the last 2 out of 3 years (posted some pictures at dodgerblues.com). Go Blue !

Although I'm a Yankee fan, the next superstar is David Wright of the Mets.
He's Derek Jeter and more...

I disagree about gambling Scuds. Its not only a financial thing. Its a deeper problem than that. I dont know Ramsey personally so I am not sure what kind of gambling he does, I know from a monetary standpoint he can afford to lose a ton and still be rich. But just because you are rich doesnt mean you cant have a gambling problem. It may not physically affect you directly like alcohol but it sure affects your moods, I dont care who you are. And relationships too. Many a rich men have lost spouses due to problems directly from gambling. To a lot of people it is a waste of time.

I do agree about alcohol and its affects. Its just bad news and nothing good ever comes from drinking excessively. Been there.

"Although I'm a Yankee fan, the next superstar is David Wright of the Mets.
He's Derek Jeter and more..."

No way is he Derek Jeter. Nobody in the world has the baseball sense Jeter has. He may not be the most talented player out there but nobody knows how to do more to help a team win than Jeter. He is a very talented player too, just not as talented as a guy like Pujols or Tejada.

I would agree that David Wright will be a superstar, but I very much doubt he'll win 4 world series in his first 11 years.

Gander,you say it affects people's moods? Well,I think it attracts people with mood problems to begin with.So,it is often a symptom of a problem (not the actual problem.)It obviously ups your mood in anticipation of the race,and then lowers it when you lose.I again say that if people would only bet with money they could afford to lose,then they wouldn't have such low moods when they lose. See,it is a self-discipline problem.Gambling exposes things that are already there.It doesn't create anything that isn't already there.Anyways,I know you wouldn't be on here,or bet at all, if your mood wasn't elevated by doing so. So,blaming gambling for causing low moods,doesn't tell the other side of the story.Gander,it is no different than blaming potatoe chips for people being fat.People can enjoy them(and elevate their mood,)but if they eat too many of them,they will get fat(which will lower their mood.)The problems that come from gambling are the result of people betting too damn much money.Just like the problem that comes from potatoe chips is that people eat too many.What makes people stop eating them? Self -discipline.What makes people stop betting? Self -discipline.What you are saying is to get rid of all the potatoe chips,and then you don't have to control yourself.I have bet horses for about 24 years.To me,my self-discipline with it has gotten very good,and I don't bet anything over what I agreed to bet with before the day started.To me,you're blaming gambling for your own lack of self discipline.When you say somebody has a gambling problem,you should be saying that person has a self discipline problem(because that is where the problem is...not that somebody gambles,but that they do it too much.)

So your basically saying as long as you can bet what you can afford, you dont have a gambling problem? People like Ken Ramsey or John Daly can not be labeled as problem gamblers because they have so much money and if by chance they run out like Daly did, they have the means to go out and make more by making commercials, wearing a hat or winning a golf tournament. Or in Ramsey's case step on teh toes of somebody in the business world. I dont believe it.

Potatoe?????

Scuds = Dan Quayle

lmfao...potato

It is considered an acceptable alternate spelling.Don't you know that? I haven't had the desire to eat them for a long time(I don't eat starch or sugar.) My foot hurts.My big to hurts,but the rest of my toes are fine. I was working hard in my yard yesterday(putting my ho in the ground.)You know how heavy them damn hoes can be.


This site below is for Gander.When he gives up gambling, he will need other hobbies.Taters will come in handy.

http://www.fakecrap.com/products/potato_gun.html

lol...only you bro...only you.

By the way,Kev,I am looking for a damn good backho.Matter of fact,one that I can dig good and deep with.Some of the cheap ones smoke,and tend to overheat.I don't want one that breaks down on me when I most need it to accept the task at hand.Good backhoes can be very useful indeed.

A good backho is very rare and incredibly hard to find...:rolleyes:

Sox waxed the Mets for 10 in a row last night :cool:

[quote=Gander]"Although I'm a Yankee fan, the next superstar is David Wright of the Mets.
He's Derek Jeter and more..."

No way is he Derek Jeter. Nobody in the world has the baseball sense Jeter has. He may not be the most talented player out there but nobody knows how to do more to help a team win than Jeter. He is a very talented player too, just not as talented as a guy like Pujols or Tejada.

I would agree that David Wright will be a superstar, but I very much doubt he'll win 4 world series in his first 11 years.[/QUOTE

His 4 world series don't make him a great player. Jeter is a winner but Wright is a better talent. Rivera had 20x more to do with the championships than Jeter. Jeter wasn't even a top 3 player on the Yankees when they were winning all their championships.

Kev,I think the man you mentioned earlier(a Mr. Dan Quayle,)has used a good ho or two when he really had the need for it.I don't think he likes to use a good backho though. Some use a ho to dig and plow with,but some are afraid to use them for that(they just use a ho to touch various pieces of large equipment .)

I think the Braves are going to surprize you guys after the allstar break...


I have hope!

Jeter wasn't even a top 3 player on the Yankees when they were winning all their championships.

I couldnt disagree with this more. There was nobody more clutch offensively through the palyoffs and world series during these 4 seasons. In addition he made critical plays in the field like that famous relay to the catcher against Oakland.

David Wright is hugely talented but the jury is still very much out on him. Hes not as good in the field as Jeter and he has struck out in many key situations this year, like last night when he was swinging for the moon when the Mets only needed a single (bases loaded 2 outs).

Buffy- The Braves are done for this year. The Braves lack the offensive weapons and the bullpen to put together the needed run this year. They would have to put together a streak of winning like 34 of 40 games to get back in the race. I dont see it happening, although they do play in a patsy division with only 1 good team.

I am going to keep hope alive! I think they are going to come out of their funk soon.

Take Rivera off the team and they might win 1. Take Jeter off and they win all 3, maybe 4. Bernie and O'Neil were more valuable. The Yankees won with pitching anyway, something they are just beginning to realize now.