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Dunbar 04-28-2007 09:41 AM

"Beat The Pro" tracks today, btWind?
 
BTWind, do you (or anyone) know which tracks will be part of the "Finals", today? I don't see anything up at YouBet about it yet.

--Dunbar

ArlJim78 04-28-2007 09:50 AM

I was wondering the same thing. I can't find anything on the site about it.

docicu3 04-28-2007 09:51 AM

Pointgiven is selecting the tracks after the initial scratches

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 09:56 AM

Tampa
Hawthorne
Hollywood

Mandatory
Tampa 7 and 11
Hawthorne 6 and 10
Hollywood 5 and 7

pweizer 04-28-2007 09:57 AM

Tampa, Hawthorne, and Hollywood.

Paul

blackthroatedwind 04-28-2007 09:58 AM

Did some of you qualify for the finals? That would be great.

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 10:06 AM

I qualifeid in week 1 - so giving it a shot today.

BTW ant idea how many in the finals?

blackthroatedwind 04-28-2007 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Rumble
I qualifeid in week 1 - so giving it a shot today.

BTW ant idea how many in the finals?

It should be in the rules. I feel like I remember reading that five qualified every week but I could be way off. I will call later and find out.

Congrats and good luck. The winner gets like $25K....right?

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 10:20 AM

10k and a trip to Horsepalyer WS.

The qualifying conditions for finals were whoever had higher earnings than
you in a qualifying week. I only followed the first week but seemed like
quite a few qualified because you struggled a bit.

ArlJim78 04-28-2007 10:23 AM

I got an email that I had qualified for the finals.
What puzzles me is that i can see no mention of the finals on the site.
Where does it list the tracks, rules, etc?

maybe i'm just overlooking something obvious.

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 10:24 AM

BTW - thanks for checking and the good luck.

Just going to take stab with these 3 tracks, not ones
I usually follow closely.

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 10:26 AM

Pick a track to go to like you are going to wager.

In other words log on and all the way to the odds board,
then there is an add on the right to click on.

ArlJim78 04-28-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Rumble
Pick a track to go to like you are going to wager.

In other words log on and all the way to the odds board,
then there is an add on the right to click on.

got it, thanks,

blackthroatedwind 04-28-2007 10:30 AM

If it was " just " the people that beat me it's a lot as I was bad to mediocre both weeks. It Include Us had won the photo at Keeneland last week I would have done MUCH better.

pweizer 04-28-2007 10:37 AM

I think your performance made YouBet very happy. Lots of people (including me) in the finals means lots of real money bets for their handle.

Paul

Dunbar 04-28-2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It should be in the rules. I feel like I remember reading that five qualified every week but I could be way off. I will call later and find out.

Congrats and good luck. The winner gets like $25K....right?

5 people each week collected prize money. But hundreds probably qualified for the Finals. You, ummm, made it kind of easy for us! ;>)

ThunderRumble, thanks for the instructions!

--Dunbar

blackthroatedwind 04-28-2007 10:39 AM

I hope so.

I honestly tried my best. I spent like eight hours each week ( or should I say " wasted " eight hours each week ) handicapping those cards.

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 10:57 AM

No problem with the instructions.

Good luck - someone here get hot and win this 10k!

VOL JACK 04-28-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I hope so.

I honestly tried my best. I spent like eight hours each week ( or should I say " wasted " eight hours each week ) handicapping those cards.

Andy, off subject but how did a player of your stature do @ the Kee. meet? I know you warned everyone before the meet started to tread lightly on the poly. but, I didn't listen. Thank god it is over! What makes it worse is I was watching Hollywood last night and the cushion track was fair.
The funniest thing about Kee. was closing day when Jill Byrne was interviewing Nick Nicholson and he kept gushing about how the polytrack was the "star" of the meet.

blackthroatedwind 04-28-2007 11:27 AM

My entire handle for the meet was under $2000 and I lost a few dollars but essentially gave up halfway through. To me it is unhandicappable and I will never play it again. The results are completely random. The worst twist Keeneland has added is taking races off the turf because fields stay intact. They have almost never come off the turf in the past, and I have seen consecutive days of rain, but now they do it at the drop of a hat. To me this is a complete disregard to handicappers as regardless of what anyone says...polytrack is NOT turf. Sure, some turf horses like it, but some don't.

As for comments by Keeneland management....well it's their surface, it's their track, and the rest of us are on the outside. I applaud Keeneland for being very innovative over time but this racing surface is a disgrace.

Dunbar 04-28-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I hope so.

I honestly tried my best. I spent like eight hours each week ( or should I say " wasted " eight hours each week ) handicapping those cards.

I'm sure you were unhappy with your results, but at least you beat the track take. You lost $7.40 on $96 worth of bets. That's -7.7%. Where's that 8% rebate when you need it!

So even on an off day, you cut the track take in half.

--Dunbar

Dunbar 04-28-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Rumble
No problem with the instructions.

Good luck - someone here get hot and win this 10k!

It's probably going to take a +$100 or more finish. The 2 prelim winners were +$91 and +$158.80. There will be fewer entries this week, but I'm thinking it will still take more than +$100.

--Dunbar

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 11:51 AM

Dunbar - thanks. It's going to be tough for sure.

If Hollywood is playing like it did yesterday look for some
longshots there - it looks like we need a few to get
those numbers.

Dunbar 04-28-2007 02:30 PM

There are 236 people in the Finals. At -$4, I am currently 43rd (probably in a big tie.)

The leader has +$29 before the first mandatory race. 25th place is +3.60.

--Dunbar

Dunbar 04-28-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
There are 236 people in the Finals. At -$4, I am currently 43rd (probably in a big tie.)

The leader has +$29 before the first mandatory race. 25th place is +3.60.

--Dunbar

The "43rd" doesn't tell you much. I just realized that they do not figure in how many people are tied. Right now there are 5 people tied for "24th", but someone else is 25th. The "25th" person is actually 49th!

Also, there are 320 people in the Finals, not 236. The "236" must have been how many people had picked a race before the 1st mandatory race.

--Dunbar

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 03:30 PM

Just hit a nice one at Tampa to get in top 15 for now.

But still way behind because it looks like 5 or 6 people had
the $73 horse in the Hawthorne 5th - damn, Bombs Away!!!!

Dunbar 04-28-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Rumble
Just hit a nice one at Tampa to get in top 15 for now.

But still way behind because it looks like 5 or 6 people had
the $73 horse in the Hawthorne 5th - damn, Bombs Away!!!!

Excellent! Do you have any shots left?

--Dunbar

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 05:28 PM

30th now, still have 2 optionals - using at Hollywood 6th and 10th.
But still @ $70 away from top five.
Basically need a miracle.

Dunbar 04-28-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Rumble
30th now, still have 2 optionals - using at Hollywood 6th and 10th.
But still @ $70 away from top five.
Basically need a miracle.

We needed a 40-1 miracle from the get go!

I have Holywood 6,8,9 left. But might need 2 miracles!

--Dunbar

Thunder Rumble 04-28-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
We needed a 40-1 miracle from the get go!

I have Holywood 6,8,9 left. But might need 2 miracles!

--Dunbar


Yep, 6th and 9th for me.

No 10th as I mistakenly said above

Dunbar 04-28-2007 08:18 PM

nada.

--Dunbar


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