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Unstable 04-26-2007 11:49 AM

Sumwonlovesyou in 2nd Race 4/29
 
Sumwonlovesyou is #1 of 6 in the 2nd Race at Churchill Downs on Sunday, 4/29/07. The rider is Willie Martinez.

With her being on the rail, will he have to gun her to the lead?

Riot 04-26-2007 11:54 AM

2nd (1:14)

1 Mile | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Claiming ($50,000) | Purse: $31,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Sumwonlovesyou Martinez W 115 $50,000 L
2 Girls Pearls Albarado R J 115 $50,000 L
3 Classic City Diva Theriot H J II 115 $50,000 L
4 Fast Actress Melancon L 118 $50,000 L
5 Tylan Quinonez A 113 $50,000 L
6 Bellafina Borel C H 118 $50,000 L

SniperSB23 04-26-2007 12:00 PM

Cool, hopefully she gets ignored on the lead and stuns the world.

mes5107 04-26-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unstable
With her being on the rail, will he have to gun her to the lead?

I would imagine that with such a small field, the situation does not dictate that she must go to the lead.

Unstable 04-26-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mes5107
I would imagine that with such a small field, the situation does not dictate that she must go to the lead.

But I don't know how comfortable she would be with horses bearing down on her.

I wish it were a larger field, so she would be at higher odds. But I guess she has a better chance with a small field.

Bigsmc 04-26-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unstable
But I don't know how comfortable she would be with horses bearing down on her.

I wish it were a larger field, so she would be at higher odds. But I guess she has a better chance with a small field.

Who cares about odds?

Get that check girl.

Unstable 04-26-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Who cares about odds?

Get that check girl.

Amen to that.

But we can always dream about her winning at astronomical odds, with us knowing how good she is.

Bigsmc 04-26-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unstable
Amen to that.

But we can always dream about her winning at astronomical odds, with us knowing how good she is.

We can all dream of that big odds score on one of our horses, but as an owner, you will learn to LOVE short fields.

Sightseek 04-26-2007 12:27 PM

So Chuck....if she wins, do we get to dump a bucket of water over you? :D

Unstable 04-26-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
We can all dream of that big odds score on one of our horses, but as an owner, you will learn to LOVE short fields.

Thanks for the heads-up on that. As if you couldn't tell, I'm a newbie.

Riot 04-26-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
So Chuck....if she wins, do we get to dump a bucket of water over you? :D

I think it has to be Lubrisyn:p

Unstable 04-26-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I think it has to be Lubrisyn:p

Okay, this joke is over my head....

Cannon Shell 04-26-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
So Chuck....if she wins, do we get to dump a bucket of water over you? :D

If that's what floats your boat!

SniperSB23 04-26-2007 04:30 PM

Just looked this one over with the brisnet PPs and I must say I am feeling really good about this spot. No one else has as much early speed as she does and no one else looks particularly good on the dirt except possibly the 6 horse. I think we've actually got a solid shot here!

southerndutch 04-26-2007 04:55 PM

Chuck, what's you're feeling on the turf to dirt angle?

2 Dollar Bill 04-26-2007 05:09 PM

Go get them girl, Keep your head in the wind, come back safe, and get a picture with Chuck & the ""gang "" !!!!!

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-26-2007 05:16 PM

Best Of Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-26-2007 05:20 PM

Sumwonlovesyou you gets in ..
 
sunday 50k claiming ..congrats..dters. and steve and chuck

phystech 04-26-2007 05:41 PM

[quote=Bigsmc...but as an owner, you will learn to LOVE short fields.[/QUOTE]


Amen to that!!!!!!!

I don't know what they pay down to at Churchill but in MD, 6th place is a payday!!

ateamstupid 04-26-2007 05:46 PM

Let the handicapping begin.

AeWingnut 04-26-2007 05:56 PM

I think Willie is a really good gate rider. He should be able to make the best of it. Hopefully Churchill hasn't changed too much since the BC :D

Thanks again Chuck.

I haven't looked at the PPs, who are the favorites? Bellafina & Fast Actress? They are carrying the most weight for some reason. I doubt 3 lbs will make a difference.

the forecast looks really good. Sunny with a low of 54 and high of 76

The Moon (at apogee) shines below Spica this evening. Far to their upper left is brighter Arcturus, sometimes called the "spring star."

:o

jman5581 04-26-2007 05:56 PM

top 5 isn't it?

AeWingnut 04-26-2007 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
Best Of Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he ran 4th in the Belmont

Thanks

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-26-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I think Willie is a really good gate rider. He should be able to make the best of it. Hopefully Churchill hasn't changed too much since the BC :D

Thanks again Chuck.

I haven't looked at the PPs, who are the favorites? Bellafina & Fast Actress? They are carrying the most weight for some reason. I doubt 3 lbs will make a difference.

the forecast looks really good. Sunny with a low of 54 and high of 76

The Moon (at apogee) shines below Spica this evening. Far to their upper left is brighter Arcturus, sometimes called the "spring star."
:o

Is this a "good" sign???

AeWingnut 04-26-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Is this a "good" sign???

no clue, I was just checking the weather and the moon thingy popped up

fpsoxfan 04-26-2007 08:03 PM

Good Luck Sumwon Owners...I'll be watching!!!

Chestnut Gal 04-26-2007 08:05 PM

Good Luck to Sumwon and
all the connections.
May all come back
safe and sound.
Please do not forget
to post the winner's
circle picture, so we
can all see it!

Scav 04-26-2007 08:13 PM

If she'll rate, she has a shot at a great trip, and grabs a good Churchill jock, which is a positive. Lots of nonsense speed in the race so she might be able to sit the trip....good luck everyone

Round Pen 04-26-2007 09:50 PM

Guys I wish you All the luck in the world BUT From an outside point of view to many of you are handicapping with your hearts and not your heads. Kind of looks like to me you are going Elephant hunting with a BB Gun.

SniperSB23 04-26-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Guys I wish you All the luck in the world BUT From an outside point of view to many of you are handicapping with your hearts and not your heads. Kind of looks like to me you are going Elephant hunting with a BB Gun.

Did you look at this field? It is well below par for a $50K claimer. I was expecting to look at a field where she'd be more outclassed than she was last out. Instead I found a field full of off the pace horses that don't seem to particularly like dirt. She could easily get loose on the lead and make a very nice showing. I certainly won't be recommending betting her to anyone but I went from just hoping this morning that she'd crack the top five to get Chuck a paycheck and set her up for her next race to thinking that she has a legitimate shot of running top two.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-26-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
Guys I wish you All the luck in the world BUT From an outside point of view to many of you are handicapping with your hearts and not your heads. Kind of looks like to me you are going Elephant hunting with a BB Gun.

Ok...let's see you're EXPERT advice and graded selections in this race

IrishofNDMan 04-26-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Ok...let's see you're EXPERT advice and graded selections in this race

I'd be interested in his "expert" input as well, so do share.

AeWingnut 04-27-2007 06:09 AM

Take a chance and you'll soon see the far-reaching potential of this opportunity. A touch nervous about taking this leap is understandable, but the sense of achievement will put your doubts to rest.

magic_idol 04-27-2007 06:59 AM

To DREAM is to reach for the STARS if we didnt dream would we achieve anything today ?

Racing is built on a Dream if we didnt believe then what is the use of existence ?

It is easy to "put down" what looks impossible it is alot harder to pick up the ball & run

In plain English
"racing is a damn hard field to go into as my mentor said get used to the downs cause there's more downs than up's in racing but in saying that all the downs are what makes the ups that much more enjoyable:D "

jman5581 04-27-2007 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Did you look at this field? It is well below par for a $50K claimer. I was expecting to look at a field where she'd be more outclassed than she was last out. Instead I found a field full of off the pace horses that don't seem to particularly like dirt. She could easily get loose on the lead and make a very nice showing. I certainly won't be recommending betting her to anyone but I went from just hoping this morning that she'd crack the top five to get Chuck a paycheck and set her up for her next race to thinking that she has a legitimate shot of running top two.


I didn't see the horses that don't like the dirt part (perhaps I should look again)...but I can envision a scenario where she gets on the lead and runs away with it. Especially with her fitness being better now than it was in the last race....and given her track record of doing exactly that, I won't be surprised to see her getting some play at the window. What's the morning line on her? I haven't looked...

horseofcourse 04-27-2007 08:31 AM

I'm not seeing where she'd get an easy lead here...looks to me like the number 5 horse Tylan has had the lead early in 4 of her last 5 races on polytrack with some ok fractions at times with consistent Beyers in the 60s which is well above what Sumwon has done. But I agree, if she shows significant improvement off her last which is likely she could be in the mix here.

SniperSB23 04-27-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
I'm not seeing where she'd get an easy lead here...looks to me like the number 5 horse Tylan has had the lead early in 4 of her last 5 races on polytrack with some ok fractions at times with consistent Beyers in the 60s which is well above what Sumwon has done. But I agree, if she shows significant improvement off her last which is likely she could be in the mix here.

Jazil could probably have the early lead on polytrack if he wanted. My brisnet PPs are at home but I'm pretty sure the 5 horse's pace figures were much lower than Sumwon's. If Sumwon were outside she might have to work to get on top but from the inside with a good break she shouldn't have a problem breaking on top. Then I guess it is up to Willie to judge the pace and see if he should let the pressers pass her or if they are going to let her waltz on the front.

saucon17 04-27-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Jazil could probably have the early lead on polytrack if he wanted. My brisnet PPs are at home but I'm pretty sure the 5 horse's pace figures were much lower than Sumwon's. If Sumwon were outside she might have to work to get on top but from the inside with a good break she shouldn't have a problem breaking on top. Then I guess it is up to Willie to judge the pace and see if he should let the pressers pass her or if they are going to let her waltz on the front.


Sniper here are the pp's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/vinery_72979.pdf

Bigsmc 04-27-2007 09:28 AM

She's 6-1 M/L

jman5581 04-27-2007 09:28 AM

Early pace figs are faster for Sumwon... with the inside post, barring any break issues, she should get the lead. 5 will have to stay outside I think.


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