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paisjpq 03-21-2007 12:03 PM

Dammit Ravel Is Out
 
not a huge surprise..but I was stupid enough to use him in my RTTR stable.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83380.html

Coach Pants 03-21-2007 12:05 PM

They can't find anything...but they just feel it. LOL

saucon17 03-21-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
not a huge surprise..but I was stupid enough to use him in my RTTR stable.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83380.html

The good news is that they caught it early and it didn't turn into
a major problem

MisterB 03-21-2007 12:07 PM

More to follow I'm sure
:(

lemoncrush 03-21-2007 12:11 PM

not a suprise.
I was just beginning to think it's been pretty quiet with very few horses going off the derby trail with injuries (Buffalo Man and Exhale may have been the two major ones so far).

Interesting to see how this shakes up the Santa Anita derby, who Garret Gomez will end up riding and if Rags to Riches takes a shot. It's possible another Pletcher horse will now go to the SA Derby (Perhaps CQ since he trains at Hollywood)?

Cajungator26 03-21-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
not a suprise.
I was just beginning to think it's been pretty quiet with very few horses going off the derby trail with injuries (Buffalo Man and Exhale may have been the two major ones so far).

Interesting to see how this shakes up the Santa Anita derby, who Garret Gomez will end up riding and if Rags to Riches takes a shot. It's possible another Pletcher horse will now go to the SA Derby (Perhaps CQ since he trains at Hollywood)?

I thought CQ was going to the Wood or am I mistaken?

Linny 03-21-2007 12:14 PM

That explains why he hasn't trained since the 11th.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-21-2007 12:15 PM

A horse is kept from breaking down,and the filly may get into the Derby.I don't see the negative here.I guess if ya had Ravel in the futures,then it sux.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-21-2007 12:17 PM

Well, my three Derby future wagers made it through March 21st...
one gone, two to go! It NEVER fails..................

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-21-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
A horse is kept from breaking down,and the filly may get into the Derby.I don't see the negative here.I guess if ya had Ravel in the futures,then it sux.

It SUCKS! :( :(

PPerfectfan 03-21-2007 12:19 PM

They said the the scan lit up on the front leg so obviously there is a problem. I was really looking forward to seeing him move forward but I would have hated to see something happen to him in a race. I am also surprised that more havent been thrown to the wayside on the Derby trail. A nice surprise.

cmorioles 03-21-2007 12:33 PM

I guess all that polytrack training didn't help, eh?

zippyneedsawin 03-21-2007 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
not a suprise.
I was just beginning to think it's been pretty quiet with very few horses going off the derby trail with injuries (Buffalo Man and Exhale may have been the two major ones so far).

Interesting to see how this shakes up the Santa Anita derby, who Garret Gomez will end up riding and if Rags to Riches takes a shot. It's possible another Pletcher horse will now go to the SA Derby (Perhaps CQ since he trains at Hollywood)?


This looks like it may open up the door for Rags to Riches to run in the SA Derby. I'd be surprised if she doesn't end up their now.

Seattleallstar 03-21-2007 12:43 PM

dammit all to hell, this makes it official Circular Quay is your Ky Derby winner

XIIPointStables 03-21-2007 12:43 PM

I better not bet the Derby....

First I loved Tiz Wonderful...out.
Then I landed on Ravel as my Derby Horse V2.0...see ya.

Back to the drawing board. :mad:

lemoncrush 03-21-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I thought CQ was going to the Wood or am I mistaken?

That's where they've been pointing him, but I read the other day that he's not 100% locked in on what the next race would be for CQ, Cowtown Cat or Deadly Dealer. I assume they'll stick with the Wood, but this could possibly change things I imagine.
Although if Rags to Riches runs in the SA derby, CQ wouldn't since they have the same ownership.

brianwspencer 03-21-2007 12:46 PM

This thread should immediately be retired to the Hatton room.

Even though it is only March 21st, but we have now officially seen our number one shock of the year.

You just can't top this as far as "things you NEVER saw coming" goes.

zippyneedsawin 03-21-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
That's where they've been pointing him, but I read the other day that he's not 100% locked in on what the next race would be for CQ, Cowtown Cat or Deadly Dealer. I assume they'll stick with the Wood, but this could possibly change things I imagine.
Although if Rags to Riches runs in the SA derby, CQ wouldn't since they have the same ownership.


CQ must be a good shipper since they apparently don't mind sending him all over the place, I'd guess he'll still hit the road(for the Wood) for that reason.

pgardn 03-21-2007 12:59 PM

Notional.

Whats up here also?

miraja2 03-21-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
They can't find anything...but they just feel it. LOL

I think one of you guys should try this. Go up to your boss and say....I need the next 3 months off because I am pretty sure I have a broken leg.
The X-Rays say I don't, but I feel that I probably do.

Coach Pants 03-21-2007 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
I think one of you guys should try this. Go up to your boss and say....I need the next 3 months off because I am pretty sure I have a broken leg.
The X-Rays say I don't, but I feel that I probably do.

Well if I had a boss I would and it would probably go like this...


Me- Hey boss, I think I got a broken leg or somethin bad like that.

Boss- Look here, Pillow. You're running in the relay at the company picnic. You've tried this every year since you've been here.

me- But boss, I could like die if I run in that race.

Boss- Toughen up, P****. If you don't stop whinin' i'm gonna make you wear a chicken costume for the race.

ArlJim78 03-21-2007 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
I guess all that polytrack training didn't help, eh?

How would you know? How do you know his condition wouldn't now be worse if he hadn't trained on polytrack?

Horses will always get injured no matter what surface they run on.

miraja2 03-21-2007 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
How would you know? How do you know his condition wouldn't now be worse if he hadn't trained on polytrack?

Horses will always get injured no matter what surface they run on.

No this isn't how it works. You either have to think that poly is the greatest thing in the world and will prevent EVERY injury.....or.....you must think that it is the creation of Satan himself sent to earth to ruin horseracing in less than 2 years. There can be none of this middle-ground nonsense.

ArlJim78 03-21-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
No this isn't how it works. You either have to think that poly is the greatest thing in the world and will prevent EVERY injury.....or.....you must think that is the creation of Satan himself sent to earth to ruin horseracing in less than 2 years. There can be none of this middle-ground nonsense.

Yes, this is also what I find but it drives me nuts. A single injury to a horse that has ran on or trained on ploytrack is cited as an example of a failure of that surface. Yet day in and day out, breakdown after breakdown occurs to horses on dirt and hardly a peep. I guess dirt injuries are just accepted.
It's as is polytrack is total crap unless it eliminates 100% of all breakdowns.

Danzig 03-21-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
not a huge surprise..but I was stupid enough to use him in my RTTR stable.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83380.html

hehe

me too.
frickfrickfrickfrickfrick


bah, too far behind anyway. having no active horses a couple weeks ago pretty much killed me.
and now rags to riches might try the boys--go RtoR!!

King Glorious 03-21-2007 08:43 PM

I know there are some that have more knowledge on this than me so I'll defer here. I'd like to know what percentage of horses would "light up a scan" if they were to undergo one? I'd bet it is a high one. I wonder if u were to take all of the horses out of training that look like they might have something, would u have any horses left to actually race?

Cannon Shell 03-21-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
I know there are some that have more knowledge on this than me so I'll defer here. I'd like to know what percentage of horses would "light up a scan" if they were to undergo one? I'd bet it is a high one. I wonder if u were to take all of the horses out of training that look like they might have something, would u have any horses left to actually race?

If the scan is on a joint then you are correct. However if the cannon bone lights up then you are headed for serious issues.

KY_Sasquash 03-22-2007 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
How would you know? How do you know his condition wouldn't now be worse if he hadn't trained on polytrack?

Horses will always get injured no matter what surface they run on.

a lot of the polytrack injuries are soft tissue and ligaments, not fractures

Mortimer 03-22-2007 10:01 AM

Aw fer the love a mike already.


Yet another sure fire derby winner bites the dust.






Circular Quay hangs in there.

At least we still have one sure fire derby winner left....others may reveal themselves,but until that time comes ( and that time may never come)the man seems to be GQ....I mean CQ.






I'm still waiting for KP...I mean KG to cough up the second and third place horseys.









He usually doesn't wait this long.


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