Dubai World Cup
 

Dubai World Cup (Group 1), sponsored by Emirates Airline
Thoroughbreds
$6,000,000 - 2,000m - Dirt
1st: $3,600,000. 2nd: $1,200,000. 3rd: $600,000. 4th: $300,000. 5th: $180,000. 6th: $120,000
BULLISH LUCK Tony Cruz Wong Wing Keung
DISCREET CAT Saeed Bin Suroor Godolphin
FORTY LICKS Ian Jory HRH Price Sultan Al Kabeer
INVASOR Kiaran McLaughlin HH Sheikh Hamdan Bin Rashid Al Maktoum
KANDIDATE Clive Brittain A J Richards
PREMIUM TAP John Kimmel King Abdulla Bin Abdulaziz & Sons
STORM MAYOR Juan Bianchi H.H Prince Tirki bin Badr bin Saoud
VERMILION Sei Ishizaka Sunday Racing Co. Ltd.

I think it's sad that there is not a single American owner with a horse in the DWC. I realize that Premium Tap, Invasor and Discreet Cat have had US based campaigns but none is owned by an American.

Which American owned horse would you send? This is a great field. Considering how shipping and the race knock alot of horses out for awhile, I wouldn't be tempted to send any of the current older horses.
Are the races going to be televised here?

I know that last year they were on TVG.

Surprizing isnt it ?. Its not like the prize money is bad,This should be a large quality field, surely for that amount of money i dont understand dont they have quality horses in dubai or is everyone too scared to race against invasor & cat ?

I do not think this race is a two horses history. Beware of the yellow floyd, they will be dangerous.

corinthian,

How does the brother vs brother thing effect whether the race is thrilling or not? The horses make it thrilling to me, not the owners.

What owners do you really expect to show up in Dubai every time with their best horses? They raced both of these horses over here several times last year, and those were exciting races.

laughable....

no chance. . .

i'm pretty sure it will be on hrtv

two best dirt horses in the world here.. you could argue top 3..

I dont think we have anything to note running. Coolmore tend not to send their horses ("its too early" they say) .

You're certainly right that the turf fields look very deep and should be quality races. And the UAE Derby look class as well.. Im just worried for the come from behind horses, they dont usually do too well in nad al sheba..

I don't know how the race stacks up, historically speaking, maybe it isn't that deep. However, yes, I'm very excited about the race primarily because of Invasor. Why doesn't he generate the hype like the other horses you mentioned? It seems you would agree that Invasor may even be as talented, so why doesn't he "do it for you"? Ask yourself how much hype there would be on this horse if he were owned by Americans? I think it would be huge. Yes I am saying that there is a bias against the horse and therefore less hype because of who the owners are. That's just my take on it. I'm not comparing him to any particular horse on your list (although a couple on your list couldn't warm up Invasor), just making a general statement that if Invasor had US ownership and as reigning BCC winner was going over to Dubai for the world cup there would be pandemonium over here.

All of that doesn't matter one bit to me. I don't need the hype or hoopla in order to get excited about this race. Personally I feel Invasor is in a class that is bordering on great. I have never been such a fan of a horse.

On top of that he is meeting once again the horse that defeated him last year, Discreet Cat, who is another horse who I consider a phenom. Were you honestly not excited by the Met Mile? That was a WOW race if you ask me.
Discreet Cat also looked awfully comfortable last year winning in Dubai. I don't think its a foregone conclusion that he cannot win this event. I don't think he will only because of Invasor who I think is more talented at 10 furlongs.

Its an undefeated horse vs. a horse that has won 10 of 11 including 8 GR1's.
What's is not to get excited about? In this day and age what races do we get that offer more than that? To me its a minor miracle that Invasor is still running and I just pray that this isn't his last race.

Not to discredit Premium Tap either who developed last year very nicely and will make his prescense felt.

So yes, if you can't tell I am excited!!

also, who knows what's coming out of Hong Kong? : )

Maybe my memory isn't so good, and I usually don't debate these kinds of things, but Pleasantly Perfect? Medaglia D'oro? I don't think their records even come close. I just feel this horse is still under-rated.

Love too many here so all I want to say is leave the rest out at your own risk.....

Sentiment aside, Storm Mayor is very good.

Kandidate if the official forgotten horse.....

Not my pick or anything, but still..... don't be fooled into thinking this is a 2 horse race.

Oh and I'm not talking to anyone in particular so please don't get your feelings hurt. :D

You're right, it's a one horse race. INVASOR:D

Love In-Vah-Sooor to death and he'll probably win, but.....

You know who I hope fires.

Now shut up and let's never speak of it again. :p

you think 13/8 is a decent bet on him??

Look at the bottom of my post from 2:10

I'm keeping an open mind.:)

Oh I don't know about that. I'm not a big win bet guy, especially on favorites.
The only wagers I will have on that race are if they offer any kind of multiple race bets. I'm not sure if they will.

I do have a bit of a twinge knowing that he is racing without lasix again, on the track he lost on before, and against a horse that beat him before.

Great points all around Jim and I'm probably more excited for this race than the past BCC. (Discreet Cat in my opinion is going into this more accomplished and proven than Bernardini) Go get 'em Invasor!

They still want to demostrate that their had the best horses to compite in America. But I belive that the Sleep Tiger will give them a surprice.

The Godolphin boys are asking way too much of Discreet Cat in this spot.

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Storm Mayor ruled out.

Transport problems.....

aj u listen
to me and u
listen good
since we
go way back.
use kandidate.


:)

Remember, that ones, the Godolphin boys said that, in order to win the triple crown they need to compete with horses raise and train in America?.
Well their start doing it and demostrate that it the way to go. They had several prospects for the big races and won. But now their gone fine that in others parts of the world exist horses that can beatem, and the yellow floyd are just some of them. Australians are doing well also. So British, Irlands, Frenchs and Germans. Watch out.

What link would be the best to get the PP's for the World Cup card?
I've done well with betting the Dubai races this winter, hopefully will have a big ending on Saturday morning!

I gotem from www.cdsn.net/dubai.

THE YELLOW FLOYD
Japanese Dubai World Cup hope VERMILION also appeared in good order as he went out on the main track. Spokesman Toshi Kiyota said: “He had a steady canter today and he’s just getting better and better each day. He will have a breeze-up tomorrow, probably around six furlongs (1200 metres).”
Japan’s Sheema Classic contender POP ROCK was seen out on the turf track to good effect
The Japanese Dubai Duty Free contenders ADMIRE MOON and DAIWA MAJOR also put in routine canters on the main track.
The Japanese pair AGNES JEDI and SEEKING THE BEST exercised on the main track
And FUSAICHI RICHARD

Uh oh..... :D

no, he will
win it
or at least
be in the mix.
:cool:

i'm behaving.
:D

use him as what? the winner? a throw-out? fourth place?
I haven't seen actual PP's yet, in order to find out what you see in him.
It looks like he won on dirt recently a few times.

Since we go way back I will give him a good look.:)