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Scav 03-08-2007 11:02 PM

Scav's Only Play of the Weekend
 
I absolutely LOVE a sequence at Fairgrounds. I have strong opinions on MANY horses in these three races and looking forward to getting back what I have lost in the last two months on only playing TWO tickets.

Race 7: Muniz Turf

This race is all Frankel. His sheet numbers tower of this field except for the monster number that Einstein put up last out, and that was only 14 days ago and had to ship. He is an AUTOMATIC THROWOUT in my opinion as he is rushed into this race after what I am guessing is owner's disappointment. King's Drama is at least 2 lengths faster then anyone in this race and I thought it should set up perfectly for him

Race 8: Oaks

Three horses that I am tossing are Appealing Zophie, Total, and Mistical Plan. MP is along for the ride with Liquidity and isn't fast enough, Total is a PERFECT example of the 0-2=x theory, and it is even screaming more at you showing that she bore out last time, BOUNCE CITY. Appealing Zophie is strong but EVERY TIME she has ran the number she ran last, she reacted badly with a 5pt regression. Get Ready Bertie is moving forward the way you like seeing a horse moving forward and gets A HUGE positive jock switch with Prado. Octave is an auto use for me as Pletcher is red hot, spotted this race. She could be along for the ride with CQ but I doubt it. Obviously can't ignore.

Race 9: LA Derby

All Circular Quay here and here is why. I think you might get some value here with him with Liquidity, Stall's horse, Zanjero, and the other Pletcher. Watching that race I saw JV loaded for bear on the rail and looked like a horse that would have been in front after about 6 jumps if allowed to clear. Still got up for 5th place(this can be argued because their were tiring horses)Less traffic issues in this race, decent pace set up, and Pletcher

Race 7 $45 Pick three 9/3,4/1 $90 (hoping for a $40 per $1 payout)
Race 7 $10 Pick Three 3,7/3,4/1 $40 (hoping for $120 per $1 here)

$130 total

Scav 03-08-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Good luck man. King's Drama will be a play against for me like he has been for much of his US racing career. I think Sweet Return has a good shot at stealing it. In the LA Derby I think you are looking at zero value on CQ. He'll be the favorite and IMO around 8-5. I think the others have caught up talentwise with him and I just don't see enough pace to set up his rally. Also Gomez knows him better than anyone, so don't expect to see him let CQ get first jump on him.

cool, but CQ doesn't need first run....I should have clarified that CQ should have some value in the pick threes because I thnk people will go 3-4 deep in this race. I consider value because I think it is a one horse race

blackthroatedwind 03-09-2007 12:17 AM

If you win I will lose.

I am pitching King's Drama. I just don't really like him. Hendrix may well have beaten him last time if he had a clean trip. Einstein may be the best horse in the race, and while two weeks is fast, he is still very dangerous. With the relative lack of pace he should get good position. I will also use Sweet Return and Hendrix and possibly Naissance Royale though she is more likely to suck up for second or third.

Circular Quay? He can win but I will certainly use the second and third finishers from the Risen Star. Zanjero moved too soon and gets a good rider switch. Plus, while I don't think much of him, doesn't it concern you that Soaring By could be loose? It's not like he's exactly facing proven tigers here.

On another note....who does the FG morning line? It is positively hilariously bad. My personal favorites? Patriot Act at 5-1 and ( the best ) Cloudy's Knight at 5-1 ( with Naissance Royale at 12-1 ).

Bigsmc 03-09-2007 04:23 AM

Where's this option in the poll?:

D. I don't believe for a second this will be Scav's only bet of the weekend.

GL bro. I'll be rooting for you.

Kasept 03-09-2007 04:26 AM

Tom,

The Louisiana Derby doesn't look like a place to be singling to me. All but one have a legit chance to win, and the obvious lack of speed there makes the closers like Quay and Birdbird less appealling. I tend to agree with Andy that Soaring By, though giving away some experience versus these, is a huge threat on or close to the front end under the rider who milked Peace Rules around this oval 4 years ago. Liquidity is the other possible beneficiary of an uncertain pace scenario as he has shown the ability to adjust to the activity in front of him. And it looks like Ketchikan can stay in touch with any pace and is fastest coming in...

This is a remarkably well-matched group top to bottom.

ddthetide 03-09-2007 05:42 AM

i find this interesting because, a thread earlier this week, some on here were talking about Ketchikan being a monster and a walk over in this race. my question is, was Ketchikan over-rated in the previous thread?
i like Liquidity and not a fan of CQ.

golfer 03-09-2007 05:55 AM

Pletcher Saturday at FG
 
After looking at the entries, this card reminds me of last Saturday at Gulf... All Pletcher, All the time? may be time to handicap Gulfstream.

Sightseek 03-09-2007 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Race 8: Oaks

Three horses that I am tossing are Appealing Zophie, Total, and Mistical Plan. MP is along for the ride with Liquidity and isn't fast enough, Total is a PERFECT example of the 0-2=x theory, and it is even screaming more at you showing that she bore out last time, BOUNCE CITY. Appealing Zophie is strong but EVERY TIME she has ran the number she ran last, she reacted badly with a 5pt regression. Get Ready Bertie is moving forward the way you like seeing a horse moving forward and gets A HUGE positive jock switch with Prado. Octave is an auto use for me as Pletcher is red hot, spotted this race. She could be along for the ride with CQ but I doubt it. Obviously can't ignore.

I like Total, but don't use the Thoroughgraphs so it's interesting to see your point of view. Like you, I think Octave is there for a reason.

Good luck on your tickets. :)

ArlJim78 03-09-2007 08:53 AM

Scav's as always I hope you're not totally fixed on this. Like Steve mentioned, tough race to single on, and at the end of the day CQ is still likely to be overbet. I would NOT make him a single.

Pistol 03-09-2007 09:24 AM

$$$
 
I like Slews Tizzy

zippyneedsawin 03-09-2007 10:30 AM

I'm as big a CQ fan as anyone here and I too will not be singling him in this race. Expecially considering the pace scenario Mr. Byk mentioned. Personally, I'm leaning toward using all except Slew's Tizzy and Birdie..

blackthroatedwind 03-09-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
I'm as big a CQ fan as anyone here and I too will not be singling him in this race. Expecially considering the pace scenario Mr. Byk mentioned. Personally, I'm leaning toward using all except Slew's Tizzy and Birdie..


I feel like Rodney Dangerfield here.....I'm the one who mentioned the pace scenerio.

docicu3 03-09-2007 11:46 AM

Respect.......Andy!!!

The "littles" here love you dearly..... and from the floor burns on the collective knees of the masses which are second only to the dead presidents changing hands when you type here or do those mini spots for DRF with Doogie DRF.

We respect and are challenged by what you have to say......you make people think and examine their own assessments of the races at hand!!! Much to the benefit of us all.

Maybe Tony Bruno by resemblance but not Rodney as his humor has become a bit cold of late and yours is usually razor sharp.

DrD

ps

Is not Vance Hanson the guy at DRF who makes the line for FG so to speak as evidenced every day in DRF???? Like a referee in a sporting event your not noticed unless you screw up.

MisterB 03-09-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
Respect.......Andy!!!

The "littles" here love you dearly..... and from the floor burns on the collective knees of the masses which are second only to the dead presidents changing hands when you type here or do those mini spots for DRF with Doogie DRF.

We respect and are challenged by what you have to say......you make people think and examine their own assessments of the races at hand!!! Much to the benefit of us all.

Maybe Tony Bruno by resemblance but not Rodney as his humor has become a bit cold of late and yours is usually razor sharp.

DrD

ps

Is not Vance Hanson the guy at DRF who makes the line for FG so to speak as evidenced every day in DRF???? Like a referee in a sporting event your not noticed unless you screw up.


blackthroatedwind 03-09-2007 11:58 AM

Allright, I feel better now. Thanks.

Whomever the linesmaker is I just questioned his lines in the spots I filmed earlier today with Dan ( I can't call him Doogie....plus he's a great guy ).

Scav 03-09-2007 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Where's this option in the poll?:

D. I don't believe for a second this will be Scav's only bet of the weekend.

GL bro. I'll be rooting for you.

It actually is Mike, I am kinda busy this weekend and I really want to attack this sequence, and I want to play Fairgrounds (haven't played it at all this year) so I said "F it" I am going to unload on this sequence, run up to trackside and play the wager, go get the hair cut, spend some time to show the Envoy some tenderloving care, and hope to catch one....Going up to trackside with $130, leaving with $0, and then making the 2.4 mile trip back up there to collect my $1500

SCUDSBROTHER 03-09-2007 01:43 PM

Well,Scav, the most disappointing part of this is that you think C.Q. was gunna win his last race(if not shut off.) That is simply ****** -like judgement.

blackthroatedwind 03-09-2007 02:07 PM

I can't speak for anyone else here but I am just glad to hear about the haircut.

ArlJim78 03-09-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
It actually is Mike, I am kinda busy this weekend and I really want to attack this sequence, and I want to play Fairgrounds (haven't played it at all this year) so I said "F it" I am going to unload on this sequence, run up to trackside and play the wager, go get the hair cut, spend some time to show the Envoy some tenderloving care, and hope to catch one....Going up to trackside with $130, leaving with $0, and then making the 2.4 mile trip back up there to collect my $1500

Unfortunately I think your total mileage to trackside will only be 4.8 miles and not 9.6 miles.

Kings Drama two lengths better than the whole field? Come on now, how many open length winners in high end turf stakes do you find? Not many. This will be a heads and necks finish with multiple horses involved if you ask me.

And keying CQ? To me six horses have a somewhat reasonable chance in that race. Its deep.

lemoncrush 03-09-2007 02:27 PM

I keep changing my mind on the Fairgrounds sequence.
In the Turf, Sweet Return hasn't hit the board in back-to-back starts in well over 2 years. Einstein might be compromised by his post, and I don't know what to think about the Pletcher horse on the rail.
Naissace Royal might be a toss since she's facing the boys, but Gomez aboard makes her more interesting.
You would think the Drysdale gelding MacDuff isn't live here, as Gomez would have taken the mount if he was. King's Drama looks very tough, too.

In the Oaks, Octaive is going to have to prove me wrong, as I haven't been impressed with her yet. I'll take Zophie and Bertie in this one.

In the Derby, I'm taking CQ and Zanjero. I think the pace might be quicker than anticipated, and the long stretch can only help.

Scav 03-09-2007 02:38 PM

Scuds, watch the race again and see what JV was doing, he was calmly moving him outside to make a huge run, he had a ton of horse IMO

AJ, sheetwise, he is 1.5-2 lengths better, I am expecting him to run a flat Zero here, which will win this race, he is going to be sitting 2nd/3rd into a soft pace and will get first run. In no way do I disagree with you regarding turf racing and I don't necessarily think KD will win by 2 lengths, but I do think he will win easily.

BTW, gotta keep it clean, ladies will be around tomorrow night with the Spring Break type party breaks out at the bar, essentially planning for my acceptance speech of greatest gambler of all time.

I have always caught myself forcing something that isn't there, trying to beat nut horses that I convince myself aren't the nuts. I have a strong opinion in CQ winning THIS RACE, not sure what he will turn out to be, but this specific race, with the way that Pletcher is going right now, I don't see how FROM A FINANCIAL end you could invest $12-$20 per $1 ticket into this race. If I had to rank the legs of the sequence from most confident to less confident, I am most confident in the 8th race, then the 7th, then the 9th. I just can't financially put $12 into a ticket that is going to pay $36 per $1, I would rather be risky and play the $4-$6 ticket multiple times.

ArlJim78 03-09-2007 02:45 PM

I can't decide which will come first for you scav's, the sitcom or the movie.

gotta be one or the other, there's good material in there.:)

Coach Pants 03-09-2007 02:53 PM

Hey if Scat Daddy can win the FOY...


Good Luck

SCUDSBROTHER 03-09-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Hey if Scat Daddy can win the FOY...


Good Luck

This is true.The Cherry Flavored Dots this barn has been giving their horses are simply popping .So tart,crisp,and refreshing.I don't have a problem with somebody wanting to play C.Q....I just don't think he was gunna win his last race from where he was.His last 16th of a mile in these 2 turn races have not supported this,and the track doesn't support this move in the stretch.Horses seem to get pretty damn brave when leading in the stretch there.The way to win this race (with C.Q.) IS NOT TO WAIT FOR A STRETCH MOVE(LIKE IN HIS LAST FEW RACES.)Gotta use a move on the backstretch,and try to hold on(with that track it wouldn't surprise me.)

SCUDSBROTHER 03-09-2007 04:07 PM

[quote=merasmag]
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
This is true.The Cherry Flavored Dots this barn has been giving their horses are simply popping .So tart,crisp,and refreshing.I don't have a problem with somebody wanting to play C.Q...


lol, u are mellowing dog-man

scavs...grl ...i love kings drama and i bet u get better odds on him than u think u will, but on his last out hendrix was 3rd to kd and railroad and i think he'll be itm too
appealing zophie will not lose
i want liquidity to win but it'll probably be cq

Tell me the truth(if you can remember.)Were you ever in Chicago Special Ed. Classes?

deltagulf 03-09-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
If you win I will lose.

I am pitching King's Drama. I just don't really like him. Hendrix may well have beaten him last time if he had a clean trip. Einstein may be the best horse in the race, and while two weeks is fast, he is still very dangerous. With the relative lack of pace he should get good position. I will also use Sweet Return and Hendrix and possibly Naissance Royale though she is more likely to suck up for second or third.

Circular Quay? He can win but I will certainly use the second and third finishers from the Risen Star. Zanjero moved too soon and gets a good rider switch. Plus, while I don't think much of him, doesn't it concern you that Soaring By could be loose? It's not like he's exactly facing proven tigers here.

On another note....who does the FG morning line? It is positively hilariously bad. My personal favorites? Patriot Act at 5-1 and ( the best ) Cloudy's Knight at 5-1 ( with Naissance Royale at 12-1 ).

the oddsmakers name is mike diliberto he has been there if i remember right at least the last 10 years.

Scav 03-10-2007 06:53 PM

How fitting huh? I am never touting another ticket. I couldn't even get a FULL RACE out of the friggin ticket

randallscott35 03-10-2007 06:55 PM

[quote=SCUDSBROTHER]
Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag

Tell me the truth(if you can remember.)Were you ever in Chicago Special Ed. Classes?

Funny, but harsh.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2007 06:55 PM

it happens alot to all of us..no worries mon:D

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2007 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag
lol...pretty sure i did better than dogman randall....he's just jealous:D (ps, for those that don't know, scuds is the name of that bitches dog....says he's his bro but i think he's his sister:eek: )

I have explained the name "Scudsbrother" many times.Each time I did it(and yes,you were present....like flies on waste,) you couldn't quite fully comprehend it. The farthest you got was "dog" and "Scuds." After that your brain quit on you,and you went hunting for a bottle,or a bar.That's why I asked if you were in Special Ed. classes(because you don't retain information well...you retain bits n' pieces......and we have to put the pieces together somehow.)


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