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Scav 08-18-2009 05:46 PM

Vikings Love in Vegas
 
Odds cut in half on everything at the Mirage according to ESPN. He isn't even in the top two QB's within the NFC North (Cutler and Rodgers).....

The Indomitable DrugS 08-18-2009 06:29 PM

Pats are a cinch.

They steamrolled everyone in the final four games of the season last year - and finished the season with the third-highest offensive yardage total in team history (365.4 yards per game)

That was with a future arena leauge bum in Duante Cassell playing QB every quarter of the whole season.

The highly comptent Tom Brady returns ... and good vets like Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway are added. The defense is probably going to be much improved.

Scav 08-18-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Pats are a cinch.

They steamrolled everyone in the final four games of the season last year - and finished the season with the third-highest offensive yardage total in team history (365.4 yards per game)

That was with a future arena leauge bum in Duante Cassell playing QB every quarter of the whole season.

The highly comptent Tom Brady returns ... and good vets like Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway are added. The defense is probably going to be much improved.

Stop it.....

-BT- 08-18-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Odds cut in half on everything at the Mirage according to ESPN. He isn't even in the top two QB's within the NFC North (Cutler and Rodgers).....



b/c favre is gonna get on fire with.............................................. .................................................. ........................................bueller... ...................................bueller........ .................................................. ........ bernard berian, cindy rice and vicante shiancoe?

vegas must be loving life taking sucker money like this hand over fist

-bt-

RockHardTen1985 08-18-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Odds cut in half on everything at the Mirage according to ESPN. He isn't even in the top two QB's within the NFC North (Cutler and Rodgers).....


The Vikings are really good, but to win the conference I would put at least 4 teams ahead of them and would think Philly is really legit this year.

RockHardTen1985 08-18-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Pats are a cinch.

They steamrolled everyone in the final four games of the season last year - and finished the season with the third-highest offensive yardage total in team history (365.4 yards per game)

That was with a future arena leauge bum in Duante Cassell playing QB every quarter of the whole season.

The highly comptent Tom Brady returns ... and good vets like Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway are added. The defense is probably going to be much improved.

I totally agree, THEY SHOULD CRUISE THIS YEAR. I can see a Pats-Eagles super bowl remach.

Scav 08-18-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
b/c favre is gonna get on fire with.............................................. .................................................. ........................................bueller... ...................................bueller........ .................................................. ........ bernard berian, cindy rice and vicante shiancoe?

vegas must be loving life taking sucker money like this hand over fist

-bt-

Berrian will benefit as long as he throws rainbows to him, he can't catch a dart to save his life.....

The Indomitable DrugS 08-18-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I totally agree, THEY SHOULD CRUISE THIS YEAR. I can see a Pats-Eagles super bowl remach.


Oh God ....

I won't sleep well tonight worrying about Randy or Brady blowing out a knee.

ddthetide 08-18-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Pats are a cinch.

They steamrolled everyone in the final four games of the season last year - and finished the season with the third-highest offensive yardage total in team history (365.4 yards per game)

That was with a future arena leauge bum in Duante Cassell playing QB every quarter of the whole season.

The highly comptent Tom Brady returns ... and good vets like Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway are added. The defense is probably going to be much improved.

the afc still goes through Pittsburgh.:tro:

philcski 08-18-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Pats are a cinch.

They steamrolled everyone in the final four games of the season last year - and finished the season with the third-highest offensive yardage total in team history (365.4 yards per game)

That was with a future arena leauge bum in Duante Cassell playing QB every quarter of the whole season.

The highly comptent Tom Brady returns ... and good vets like Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway are added. The defense is probably going to be much improved.

Highly competent, elle oh elle... the Pats really are a cinch, and I'm a Bills fan.

MaTH716 08-18-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I totally agree, THEY SHOULD CRUISE THIS YEAR. I can see a Pats-Eagles super bowl remach.


declansharbor 08-18-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

What this pic fails to display is that the black cats are standing under an open ladder.



With that said, he may be spot on with his pre-season assessment. For NE, Galloway is a SUPER sleeper in fantasy football this year. Right underneath my sleepiest of sleepers, on the Bengals.

MaTH716 08-18-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
What this pic fails to display is that the black cats are standing under an open ladder.



With that said, he may be spot on with his pre-season assessment. For NE, Galloway is a SUPER sleeper in fantasy football this year. Right underneath my sleepiest of sleepers, on the Bengals.

And what is your position on him having the Eagles representing the NFC in the Super Bowl? :rolleyes: :eek: :D

declansharbor 08-18-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
And what is your position on him having the Eagles representing the NFC in the Super Bowl? :rolleyes: :eek: :D

I plead the fif. : )

6 of the last 8 sounds about right. Now that we can get over the hump with the addition of Vick, of course.












































:rolleyes:

Cannon Shell 08-19-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
The Vikings are really good, but to win the conference I would put at least 4 teams ahead of them and would think Philly is really legit this year.

Bad news Iggles fans!

Cannon Shell 08-19-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I totally agree, THEY SHOULD CRUISE THIS YEAR. I can see a Pats-Eagles super bowl remach.

Ditto Pats backers. Your done.

dalakhani 08-19-2009 11:16 AM

I think some have been a little quick to dismiss the vikings this year and that is a huge mistake. Say what you want about Brett Favre but he can still make big league throws and he has receivers with a lot of speed. Combine this with arguably the best running back in the league and you have a very high powered offense. The defense is going to get better simply by not having to be on the field as long.

Im not saying they are going to win the whole thing but they will contend...barring injury of course.

Antitrust32 08-19-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I think some have been a little quick to dismiss the vikings this year and that is a huge mistake. Say what you want about Brett Favre but he can still make big league throws and he has receivers with a lot of speed. Combine this with arguably the best running back in the league and you have a very high powered offense. The defense is going to get better simply by not having to be on the field as long.

Im not saying they are going to win the whole thing but they will contend...barring injury of course.


Defense may be on the field longer when Favre throws 28 picks the year..

Again, like Vick, Farve makes me :{>: :{>: McNabb..

Danzig 08-19-2009 06:15 PM

at the very least, favre is definitely an improvement over jackson and rosenfels....

and then there's this:

The Vikings have sold more than 3,000 season tickets since news broke that Brett Favre was coming to Minnesota. That's in approximately a 24-hour span.

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Free Draft Guide Chief marketing officer Steve LaCroix says the team has sold about 10,000 single-game tickets during that time as fans clamor over the arrival of the veteran quarterback.

Seats for the game against Green Bay on Oct. 5 are only available through a season ticket. There are roughly 7,000 season tickets remaining. The Vikings had to race to beat the blackout deadline for several games last season.

Merchandise is also moving. LaCroix said several hundred pre-orders for Favre jerseys were placed online Tuesday. The purple No. 4s were to show up in stores on Wednesday

SniperSB23 08-19-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I think some have been a little quick to dismiss the vikings this year and that is a huge mistake. Say what you want about Brett Favre but he can still make big league throws and he has receivers with a lot of speed. Combine this with arguably the best running back in the league and you have a very high powered offense. The defense is going to get better simply by not having to be on the field as long.

Im not saying they are going to win the whole thing but they will contend...barring injury of course.


Worst post of 2009

docicu3 08-19-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Ditto Pats backers. Your done.


Farve doesn't make it to week 9 as his ego is dropped on his right knee leaving him with an ACL tear and another opportunity to retire and rise from the dead yet again.....if there is any karma of fairness in this universe the Vikings will go 7-9 and miss the playoffs...

chucklestheclown 08-19-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
at the very least, favre is definitely an improvement over jackson and rosenfels....

and then there's this:

The Vikings have sold more than 3,000 season tickets since news broke that Brett Favre was coming to Minnesota. That's in approximately a 24-hour span.

FOX Fantasy Football

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Free Draft Guide Chief marketing officer Steve LaCroix says the team has sold about 10,000 single-game tickets during that time as fans clamor over the arrival of the veteran quarterback.

Seats for the game against Green Bay on Oct. 5 are only available through a season ticket. There are roughly 7,000 season tickets remaining. The Vikings had to race to beat the blackout deadline for several games last season.

Merchandise is also moving. LaCroix said several hundred pre-orders for Favre jerseys were placed online Tuesday. The purple No. 4s were to show up in stores on Wednesday

I think I am going to throw up.:p :p :p

dalakhani 08-20-2009 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Worst post of 2009

Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

Danzig 08-20-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Farve doesn't make it to week 9 as his ego is dropped on his right knee leaving him with an ACL tear and another opportunity to retire and rise from the dead yet again.....if there is any karma of fairness in this universe the Vikings will go 7-9 and miss the playoffs...


sorry, i just don't get it. his playing, or not, has no effect on me, you, or anyone else. what's the big deal? i know some tire of the media circus-perhaps the issue would be better brought up with the media? i think when brett turned 35 is when people started suggesting he retire, as tho it was their business to tell him so. blame espn, as they feel the need to be first on the scene with big news. lol a football player playing isn't big news.

MaTH716 08-20-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
sorry, i just don't get it. his playing, or not, has no effect on me, you, or anyone else. what's the big deal? i know some tire of the media circus-perhaps the issue would be better brought up with the media? i think when brett turned 35 is when people started suggesting he retire, as tho it was their business to tell him so. blame espn, as they feel the need to be first on the scene with big news. lol a football player playing isn't big news.

I think I agree with Dani. Unless you are a Vikings fan, who cares? Sure he's an upgrade for the Vikings. But he's also a guy that was on a 8-3 team last year and couldn't get them in to the playoffs. At times he was just plain awful. Everyone thought that he would improve that team by 2-3 games, but he might have cost them that instead.
If I was a Bears or Packers fan I would be licking my chops about facing him twice this season. It will probably open it up for Peterson a bit, but despite what everyone says I personally think that he had more talent to throw at last year in NY. I must of missed the memo when Bernard Berrian turned in to Jerry Rice.
At least they could use the torn rotator cuff as a cruthc when Brett goes in to the toilet.

Coach Pants 08-20-2009 08:35 AM

I'm not convinced Rodgers is better than Favre.

Bigsmc 08-20-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I think I agree with Dani. Unless you are a Vikings fan, who cares? Sure he's an upgrade for the Vikings. But he's also a guy that was on a 8-3 team last year and couldn't get them in to the playoffs. At times he was just plain awful. Everyone thought that he would improve that team by 2-3 games, but he might have cost them that instead.
If I was a Bears or Packers fan I would be licking my chops about facing him twice this season. It will probably open it up for Peterson a bit, but despite what everyone says I personally think that he had more talent to throw at last year in NY. I must of missed the memo when Bernard Berrian turned in to Jerry Rice.
At least they could use the torn rotator cuff as a cruthc when Brett goes in to the toilet.


I am not a Vikings fan but I care. I love having Farve in the NFL.

Danzig 08-20-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I think I agree with Dani. Unless you are a Vikings fan, who cares? Sure he's an upgrade for the Vikings. But he's also a guy that was on a 8-3 team last year and couldn't get them in to the playoffs. At times he was just plain awful. Everyone thought that he would improve that team by 2-3 games, but he might have cost them that instead.
If I was a Bears or Packers fan I would be licking my chops about facing him twice this season. It will probably open it up for Peterson a bit, but despite what everyone says I personally think that he had more talent to throw at last year in NY. I must of missed the memo when Bernard Berrian turned in to Jerry Rice.
At least they could use the torn rotator cuff as a cruthc when Brett goes in to the toilet.

yeah, but the 8-3 team he was on last year was the jets...lol

seriously, one guy can't make or break a team in my opinion. but he will certainly help quite a bit, and is definitely an upgrade over the two qb's competing for the vikes starting job.


favre isn't the best qb out there, but he's still better than many. hell, i almost wish the 'skins had got him, as i i'm tired of waiting for campbell to step up a notch-or three.

Danzig 08-20-2009 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm not convinced Rodgers is better than Favre.

i'm not either, and i still don't understand why the packers felt such a need to rush to the next guy.

Antitrust32 08-20-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, but the 8-3 team he was on last year was the jets...lol

seriously, one guy can't make or break a team in my opinion. but he will certainly help quite a bit, and is definitely an upgrade over the two qb's competing for the vikes starting job.


favre isn't the best qb out there, but he's still better than many. hell, i almost wish the 'skins had got him, as i i'm tired of waiting for campbell to step up a notch-or three.


I hope you get what you are asking for. Farve would get killed in the NFC East. He'll be lucky to get through the NFC North. Your guy is better right now. Farve is the most overrated player this decade IMO.

He loses games as often as he wins them... Just ask Joey. lol

The only thing that saves him, and he is lucky hes on the Vikings.. is the running game.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-20-2009 10:46 AM

I got a text message from a friend a few days ago that said if Brett Favre was black he'd have been vilified in the media for his antics over the last few years.

At least he doesn't have to play before the RNC .. or they might call him a flip flopper and hold up flip-flop's or something tremendously clever like that.

Crown@club 08-20-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'm not either, and i still don't understand why the packers felt such a need to rush to the next guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-keIiVB-rsE

SniperSB23 08-20-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

Crown@club 08-20-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.

Danzig 08-20-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club


yeah, i heard he made some disparaging remarks. who gives an ish what fran tarkenton has to say? kind of like when jon gruden told jaws that he was just mad that vick would sell more #7 jerseys than ron did!

Danzig 08-20-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.


shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

Crown@club 08-20-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

Danzig 08-20-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

i don't think just favre contributed to their skid in the latter half of the season. i also think that the line, and the receiving corps very much makes a Qb.
i will not make the argument that favre is one of the best out there anymore, but i would definitely argue he's better by far then what the vikes already had.

horseofcourse 08-20-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I think some have been a little quick to dismiss the vikings this year and that is a huge mistake. Say what you want about Brett Favre but he can still make big league throws and he has receivers with a lot of speed. Combine this with arguably the best running back in the league and you have a very high powered offense. The defense is going to get better simply by not having to be on the field as long.

Im not saying they are going to win the whole thing but they will contend...barring injury of course.

Call me crazy, but how is that different than what they did last year with Jackson, then Frerotte, then Jackson again playing?? They won their division and made the playoffs. Does Favre really put them in the Super Bowl? On the plus side after his bicep surgery, they also found he has a torn rotator cuff. Call me crazy, but signing a 40 year old guy coming off bicep surgery with a torn rotator cuff for 25 million seems like not the smartest move in the book. Even when he had the great season two years ago he stunk it up horribly in the NFC championship game and he was not good last year either.

Danzig 08-20-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Call me crazy, but how is that different than what they did last year with Jackson, then Frerotte, then Jackson again playing?? They won their division and made the playoffs. Does Favre really put them in the Super Bowl? On the plus side after his bicep surgery, they also found he has a torn rotator cuff. Call me crazy, but signing a 40 year old guy coming off bicep surgery with a torn rotator cuff for 25 million seems like not the smartest move in the book. Even when he had the great season two years ago he stunk it up horribly in the NFC championship game and he was not good last year either.


so just think what they could have done with a decent QB, considering what they managed in spite of jackson and frerotte. seems like 20 years ago when gus was in d.c.


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